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What do we think about posting Wikipedia articles to Tildes?

I personally find it uselful in certain cases, like getting an overview of areas where we have many solutions to a problem, like who should the Democratic nominee be or how should we make money.

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  1. Deimos
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    I generally don't like it, and have previously discouraged it (and even removed them in some cases). Here's a comment I posted on one that I removed last year:

    I generally don't like it, and have previously discouraged it (and even removed them in some cases). Here's a comment I posted on one that I removed last year:

    Please don't just submit a random Wikipedia article with no context. If you'd like to start a discussion about something in the article, consider making a text post explaining what you find interesting about it, so that people have something to go off.

    I know that this is something that people do regularly on Hacker News, but I don't think it's a good behavior to emulate. It's the equivalent of old forum posts like: "Giraffes. Discuss." It's not an effective way to get a conversation started.

    25 votes
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    acdw
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    As a comment to a topic, I think it's fine. I don't know about as topics themselves though. I think it would end up being a r/TIL thing where none of the information is really all that...

    As a comment to a topic, I think it's fine. I don't know about as topics themselves though. I think it would end up being a r/TIL thing where none of the information is really all that interesting. Slash it becomes a race for easy points.

    9 votes
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      ali
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      I think it’s a great idea, both articles linked provide a ton of information, condensed into one accessible website. If the information is not interesting to people, it will disappear soon without...

      I think it’s a great idea, both articles linked provide a ton of information, condensed into one accessible website. If the information is not interesting to people, it will disappear soon without any harm done, just like any other post would

      4 votes
      1. acdw
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        That's a fair point. I guess I'm saying why I wouldn't post a wiki article.

        That's a fair point. I guess I'm saying why I wouldn't post a wiki article.

        1 vote
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      cfabbro
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      Speaking of Hungarian military history... although occurring quite a bit earlier than the formation/dissolution of the Black Army, you might still get a kick out of the latest Kings & Generals...

      Speaking of Hungarian military history... although occurring quite a bit earlier than the formation/dissolution of the Black Army, you might still get a kick out of the latest Kings & Generals video: Mongol Invasions of Hungary and Poland (1242-1296)

      2 votes
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        1. cfabbro
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          Their ongoing Ottoman empire series is one of my favs too, since I have a particular soft spot for the history in the region of the Eastern Roman Empire. I have even fully conquered the entire...

          Their ongoing Ottoman empire series is one of my favs too, since I have a particular soft spot for the history in the region of the Eastern Roman Empire. I have even fully conquered the entire world as both Byzantium and the Ottomans in EU4 (ironman mode). ;)

          Sorry that is has taken me so long to get around to it

          Hah... I am the reigning champion of getting sidetracked with other things, so no worries! :P

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  4. patience_limited
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    I'd say Wikipedia entries are fine as links to supporting information in a comment, especially when clarifying terms of a discussion or providing a quick summary of what's already established...

    I'd say Wikipedia entries are fine as links to supporting information in a comment, especially when clarifying terms of a discussion or providing a quick summary of what's already established knowledge.

    The examples you provided are highly controversial (in a way that's known to provoke endless partisan bickering), or insufficiently broad to facilitate the discussion indicated by "how should we make money".

    I recall a couple of very obscure Wiki entries posted as curiosity topics for discussion, but don't think that they spurred much useful commentary. I'd say Wikipedia entries are potential sources of low-effort topic posts which should be discouraged, unless the questions they provoke are clearly and explicitly stated as ask.survey or otherwise opened to more involved conversations.

    5 votes
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    Algernon_Asimov
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    I gave up arguing this point ages ago. I'm against it, but other people like it. I came up with my own solution: I've created a filter for all posts tagged wikipedia, and I tag all these posts...

    I gave up arguing this point ages ago. I'm against it, but other people like it.

    I came up with my own solution: I've created a filter for all posts tagged wikipedia, and I tag all these posts with wikipedia. Out of sight, out of mind!

    EDIT: This explains why I didn't see this post until I stumbled across an untagged Wikipedia post elsewhere by @spit-evil-olive-tips. This post is tagged with wikipedia so it's hidden from me. Oh well. The benefits still outweigh the drawbacks.

    3 votes
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      1. Algernon_Asimov
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        I agree that no other post gets tagged with the name of the site. However, for most other posts, the site is irrelevant: it's just a platform for delivering information. But for Wikipedia posts,...

        I agree that no other post gets tagged with the name of the site. However, for most other posts, the site is irrelevant: it's just a platform for delivering information.

        But for Wikipedia posts, the site is the point. The aim of those posts is to highlight a Wikipedia article. It's all about "Look what I found on Wikipedia!"

        Meanwhile, the point of the filtering feature is for us to be able to customise our feeds to hide things we don't want to see. I don't want to see random Wikipedia posts - especially now that @spit-evil-olive-tips says he's going to post a new Wikipedia article every single day.

        I am therefore using the features available to me (tagging and filtering) to hide this noise from my Tildes feed, rather than complaining about it. I did my complaining a long time ago. It didn't change anything: people still insisted on posting Wikipedia articles. And me complaining just creates negativity.

        So I switched to a different tactic.

        5 votes