I don't think corruption is the right concept here, it's not like it's proof that anyone has done anything underhanded. If anything, it would display favouritism or that it's all a popularity...
I don't think corruption is the right concept here, it's not like it's proof that anyone has done anything underhanded. If anything, it would display favouritism or that it's all a popularity contest.
You know, kind of like how Steve Carrel never won an Emmy for playing Michael Scott but kept losing to Jim Parsons for Sheldon Cooper.
To go more into depth on this - a pivotal moment in Jaime's character arc is when he reveals (to Brienne in the books, I forget who in the show) the reason he killed the Mad King. Aerys wanted to...
Jaime's entire arc is scrapped
To go more into depth on this - a pivotal moment in Jaime's character arc is when he reveals (to Brienne in the books, I forget who in the show) the reason he killed the Mad King. Aerys wanted to burn down all of King's Landing with wildfire rather than let Bobby B take the throne. Jaime kills him, as well as the master pyromancer, to prevent that and save the city.
S8 Jaime: "I never cared about the innocents"
All that character development, thrown away with a single line.
I gave up in season 6 as well, annoyed at how badly they butchered the Sand Snakes (among many other things). Then with all the hype about the final season, I actually re-watched from the very...
I gave up in season 6 as well, annoyed at how badly they butchered the Sand Snakes (among many other things). Then with all the hype about the final season, I actually re-watched from the very beginning, got caught up, and watched S8.
Yes, it was that bad. Sloppy, lazy writing all around. They had a goal they needed to get to, a very compressed timeframe in which to get there, and seemed to not really care how many corners got cut along the way.
It's not. Does the final season have serious flaws? Yes. But just like with Star Wars, most of the outrage is coming from people trying to be cool trashing the most hyped up show on TV. It's not...
It's not. Does the final season have serious flaws? Yes. But just like with Star Wars, most of the outrage is coming from people trying to be cool trashing the most hyped up show on TV. It's not at all as bad as people are making it out to be.
It has serious flaws in exactly the way that a hole in one's spacesuit is a serious problem. I'll extend that metaphor to Star Wars, Star Trek, and anything post-Endgame in the MCU because I'm...
It has serious flaws in exactly the way that a hole in one's spacesuit is a serious problem. I'll extend that metaphor to Star Wars, Star Trek, and anything post-Endgame in the MCU because I'm feeling generous.
This is what media consolidation gets us - wrecked franchises and heavy handed politics preaching from the hole in the show where the plot used to be. I honestly wouldn't even mind the politics - any politics, from any perspective - if there were still an interesting story there that was being serviced by said politics.
At least the first three eps of Black Mirror's latest season weren't trash... and there's Expanse S4 coming. There's still a tiny, tiny bit of water out there in this vast desert.
I do find myself hoping that Thrones wins the Emmy. The reaction to that would almost make the awards relevant again, if only as a parody of themselves.
I have to say that I think in this case, you're incorrect. It was objectively bad. And although I disagree with some of the criticism of Last Jedi, there were major plot holes that can only be the...
I have to say that I think in this case, you're incorrect. It was objectively bad. And although I disagree with some of the criticism of Last Jedi, there were major plot holes that can only be the result of poor writing.
Award shows are driven by campaigning and popularity more so than quality. It's not really corruption because every award is driven in a similar context. Broken and meaningless though? Sure.
Award shows are driven by campaigning and popularity more so than quality. It's not really corruption because every award is driven in a similar context. Broken and meaningless though? Sure.
Sure. We're silly to think that quality is the only concern there. It is just one among numerous factors. And this is not necessarily bad. Suppose Triumph of the Will was made in 1943. Despite...
Sure. We're silly to think that quality is the only concern there. It is just one among numerous factors. And this is not necessarily bad.
Suppose Triumph of the Will was made in 1943. Despite it's undeniable quality, would you want it to win the Oscar for Best Documentary Feature?
This is surprising. Even if we set aside the weaknesses of season 8 and they wanted to nominate something, I don’t see how they settled on episode 6 rather than episode 2. A Knight of the Seven...
This is surprising. Even if we set aside the weaknesses of season 8 and they wanted to nominate something, I don’t see how they settled on episode 6 rather than episode 2.
A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms was easily the best episode of the season. Sure most of it was basically fanservice, but it was really well executed fan service. It was on par with some of the best episodes of the series, like Blackwater.
The season was all downhill after that though. It was, in hindsight, the “dead cat bounce” after the precipitous quality drop throughout season 7.
I agree, it was the best episode of the season. But it was written by Bryan Cogman, whereas episode 6 was written by D&D, the showrunners, who presumably have a lot more sway with HBO.
I agree, it was the best episode of the season. But it was written by Bryan Cogman, whereas episode 6 was written by D&D, the showrunners, who presumably have a lot more sway with HBO.
It would be fun to watch the ensuing response if it won this award. It would be a blatant display of corruption.
I don't think corruption is the right concept here, it's not like it's proof that anyone has done anything underhanded. If anything, it would display favouritism or that it's all a popularity contest.
You know, kind of like how Steve Carrel never won an Emmy for playing Michael Scott but kept losing to Jim Parsons for Sheldon Cooper.
I don't think GoT S8 is winning any popularity contests. Maybe a notoriety contest.
As someone who stopped watching GOT in season 6, I watch the furor in disbelief. It cannot possibly be that bad.
To go more into depth on this - a pivotal moment in Jaime's character arc is when he reveals (to Brienne in the books, I forget who in the show) the reason he killed the Mad King. Aerys wanted to burn down all of King's Landing with wildfire rather than let Bobby B take the throne. Jaime kills him, as well as the master pyromancer, to prevent that and save the city.
S8 Jaime: "I never cared about the innocents"
All that character development, thrown away with a single line.
I gave up in season 6 as well, annoyed at how badly they butchered the Sand Snakes (among many other things). Then with all the hype about the final season, I actually re-watched from the very beginning, got caught up, and watched S8.
Yes, it was that bad. Sloppy, lazy writing all around. They had a goal they needed to get to, a very compressed timeframe in which to get there, and seemed to not really care how many corners got cut along the way.
It's not. Does the final season have serious flaws? Yes. But just like with Star Wars, most of the outrage is coming from people trying to be cool trashing the most hyped up show on TV. It's not at all as bad as people are making it out to be.
And to put emphasis on your's. It's not just a bandwagon. The episodes are actually that bad.
It has serious flaws in exactly the way that a hole in one's spacesuit is a serious problem. I'll extend that metaphor to Star Wars, Star Trek, and anything post-Endgame in the MCU because I'm feeling generous.
This is what media consolidation gets us - wrecked franchises and heavy handed politics preaching from the hole in the show where the plot used to be. I honestly wouldn't even mind the politics - any politics, from any perspective - if there were still an interesting story there that was being serviced by said politics.
At least the first three eps of Black Mirror's latest season weren't trash... and there's Expanse S4 coming. There's still a tiny, tiny bit of water out there in this vast desert.
I do find myself hoping that Thrones wins the Emmy. The reaction to that would almost make the awards relevant again, if only as a parody of themselves.
I have to say that I think in this case, you're incorrect. It was objectively bad. And although I disagree with some of the criticism of Last Jedi, there were major plot holes that can only be the result of poor writing.
The final episode was decent IMO. But the whole final season was rushed so it was sort of like a cherry on top of a bowl of shit ice cream.
Award shows are driven by campaigning and popularity more so than quality. It's not really corruption because every award is driven in a similar context. Broken and meaningless though? Sure.
Sure. We're silly to think that quality is the only concern there. It is just one among numerous factors. And this is not necessarily bad.
Suppose Triumph of the Will was made in 1943. Despite it's undeniable quality, would you want it to win the Oscar for Best Documentary Feature?
To quote the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy: "This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move"
This is surprising. Even if we set aside the weaknesses of season 8 and they wanted to nominate something, I don’t see how they settled on episode 6 rather than episode 2.
A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms was easily the best episode of the season. Sure most of it was basically fanservice, but it was really well executed fan service. It was on par with some of the best episodes of the series, like Blackwater.
The season was all downhill after that though. It was, in hindsight, the “dead cat bounce” after the precipitous quality drop throughout season 7.
I agree, it was the best episode of the season. But it was written by Bryan Cogman, whereas episode 6 was written by D&D, the showrunners, who presumably have a lot more sway with HBO.
That rendition of Jenny of Oldstones though. . .