Arcane discussion thread
This post will include spoilers from all first 3 episodes.
Arcane came out on Netflix a few hours ago. I binged the first 3 episodes. It easily exceeded my expectations. I played the game for many years and I can't believe how they managed to bring those characters to life. Now I'm really hoping that they develop the Runeterra universe more like Disney is doing with Star Wars.
The character that teleports Jayce and his mom is called Ryze (Maybe I'm wrong and it's not him?). He is considered the main protagonist of Runeterra. Some other characters that I've spotted include Vi, Jinx, Ekko, Singed, Jayce, Viktor, Twitch(?), Caitlyn, Heimerdinger, Warwick(?).
One of my favorite thing about League of Legends is it's art department. This show has some great music and the video is like a painting. I really like how bright the images were, especially during that first robbery scene. The view on the cities was breathtaking. They went for a really stylized look and I really like what it does to the effects like lightning or smoke. Sometimes they draw extra lines around the objects or characters' silhouettes to make them stand out.
The story itself was good too. I was pretty engaged with all the characters. Many of them we've never heard about before in the lore. There's a meme in the community about how characters have a "dark and secret past". It's nice to finally get rid of the secret part of the quote. Seeing it animated was pretty emotional they really didn't pull any punches :D. It gives so much context for why those characters behave the way they do.
It's definitely a show I'll have to rewatch multiple times to catch all the easter eggs. For example Vi wears these goggles in the game.
I'd love to hear what people unfamiliar with the game think about this series so far. Also for those that didn't know, this series will end up being around 6 hours long once it's fully out. The second act will launch on November 13, and the third act will release on November 20.
btw for those that want to read more about this universe, there's a map here. The story is happening in Piltover & Zaun. They publish a lot of short stories here.
Edit: Arcane showrunner interview: how League Of Legends broke the video game movie curse
I watched a couple episodes last night.
I've never played League or LoR so don't really know anything about the universe but I'm absolutely in love with the animation style and the setting.
It reminds me very much of a brighter but still dystopian steampunk, similar to what WotC did for their Kaladesh Magic: The Gathering set.
Definitely going to keep watching and see where it goes.
I hope MTG gets an adaptation at some point too. I still listen to Tha Gatherin- "Swing For It" which was the theme for the fan movie Tap: Max's Game.
I follow a lot of artists that draw for Wizard of the Coast. snip The world they are creating is truly beautiful! I hadn't seen Kaladesh. It's so well done!
I really liked MTG Arena with the voice acting and the music (along with the other MTG games).
I dreamed I was in the Arcane world yesterday in a lucid dream. It was so cool to walk through their streets.
Well good news for you because it is! It's getting an animated Netflix series that I think is coming out next year.
I love Kaladesh as well, probably my favourite plane of theirs, at least as far as art goes. The art is amazing though, I very much agree. They're so good at visual storytelling, a set of cards can really transport you to this imaginary world. For instance, here's all the cards from the Kaladesh block. I find just scrolling through those to be very invocative.
And yea MTG arena is a lot of fun, I just wish the business model was a bit different. It's great if you're a casual player or someone who is very into MtG but not great if you just wanna pick up a decent standard deck for a few games here or there or try brewing your own decks.
My wife and I also binged the first 3 episodes, we both really enjoyed it! Loved that Shohreh Aghdashloo made an appearance, I feel like she is in many of the games and shows I tend to enjoy. I think it's a real possibility that Vander turns out to be Warwick. Some of his voicelines:
They did an excellent job of making the world feel alive. The animation style used is unique but offers a lot detail for facial expressions.
Really looking forward to the rest of the season!
Shohreh Aghdashloo has such a great voice! I really liked her in The Expanse. I recognized her instantly.
There are so many voice lines that hit differently already. For example Jinx's:
Animations in general I feel have more facial expressions than live action stuff with maybe Korean dramas as an exception.
I watched some interviews with the Jinx voice actress and she said she was spending so much time on Reddit reading all about Jinx and League of Legends conspiracy theories. I think it shows in the performance already.
I enjoyed the first two episodes. It’s a fun watch. I know very little about League but a few friends worked on this so I was excited to see it be so popular right away.
And then I watched the third episode.
Holy shit. This isn’t just good. It’s blowing me away. And the animation isn’t just great. It’s fucking incredible.
Wow.
Update -- Just watched episode seven.
The Ekko / Jinx fight scene was INCREDIBLE.
I am so over the moon with the music and the animation. This series has me in awe from the quality of the work.
Really... I was in tears. Not from the plot. Just from the animation. I don't think it's ever happened to me in a series or even movie before. Racking my brain here, trying to think if maybe a Disney made me feel this way, but I don't think it's ever been the case that the animation alone had me in tears.
Music scores definitely have had this effect on me before though. Last I remember is Game of Thrones S6E10: Djawadi using the piano for the first time in the series.
Edit. Done with 8 and 9. I cannot wait to rewatch the entire thing again. Wow. Absolutely incredible. What a first season. What an animation. What a work of art. This has officially jumped in my top 3 best series of all time.
I've been rewatching Act 1 and I'm noticing how a lot of the foreshadowing. I watched it in French and it's also well voiced. Will probably check out the Japanese voices too.
Necrit has some cool videos that give more context and points out things I missed.
Necrit's Review of Arcane - Act 1
The Hidden Details Of Arcane - Act 1
Did you already see Act 2?
I just noticed that the show is now rank 2 on the imdb popularity chart and rank 16 on their list of top rated shows. I can't wait to see Act 3.
This is too good not to share. Episode 3 spoilers below.
I've presented Arcane to my ex, and we've been watching it together. It's my first "proper" rewatch, too. It's hilarious and fun to see her go through the exact same reactions as I did on my first watch.
We watched the first two episodes, and it was alright, she got into it. Fun watch!
AND THEN WE WATCHED THE THIRD EPISODE.
Oh my god. I remembered it being the "turning point", but did I just forget how impactful it actually was?
Both of us by the end of it were completely bawling our eyes out.
In that episode, she also started to connect with the animation the same way I had. She said "Oh wow, they have such beautiful eyes", and then started paying much closer attention to how gorgeous everything is.
Then, Vander's progressive downfall and death got us seriously emotional, already weeping pretty hard.
And there it was. Powder's scene. "Vi, come back! Vi, don't leave me!". She completely connected with the scene, and I genuinely can't tell who was crying more, her or Powder.
After five minutes of just letting all the emotions out, we both take a deep breath and find our footing. Roll credits, and now it's the music's turn to hit hard with "goodbye goodbye" playing and it's back to tears.
After the episode, she said (exact translated words): "I had no idea an animated series could make me feel this way".
I nodded, didn't say anything, but in my head all I can think about is that this is just the first act, and I cannot fucking wait to see her reaction to the second and third ones. Hell, I can't wait to see mine.
I have heard that this show is apparently the new love of Reddit and people are saying that it's the best western animated series since Airbender, and I'm not sure if it's an existing fan base getting hypedrunk or if this is a fantastic show with a tie in game that happened to come out ten years ago.
Sidebar: Never in a million years would have guessed that Riot would have the cultural darling adaptation after Blizzard went all in on Overwatch being the multimedia focus. Wax and wane I suppose.
I don't think it's overstated. The world is huge and they managed to make it feel lived in. They have a huge attention to details. I talked with a few people that never knew anything about the game and they had the same reaction that I did. I could see this show blow up in popularity in the coming weeks.
Edit: though I'd say that it's common for gaming fans to be the harshest critics. It's already a big win that they could get such a positive reaction from the community.
Well, it started out great -- the opening heist, the chit-chat between the thieves, beautiful animation -- very quickly, I wanted to like it more than I ultimately did. It's certainly not bad, just a bit ... lacking. I understand that much of the show is, effectively, origin stories for well-known characters in the game, and probably, knowing those characters would help.
But for me, too much of the show devolved into overly-melodramatic, wandering conversations between characters (or soliloquies), that never made much sense, nor carried any real emotional depth. That exchange between Silco and Vander halfway thru the 3rd episode is a good example of what I mean; it's obviously supposed to a major character-reveal and development point, but it all just felt so flat and unbelievable, I just wanted to skip over it.
Mind you, it's early. The plot lines seem very good, and the overall quality and attention to detail all bode well for the show. It's very common for shows to take more than 3 episodes to really find their voice, hit their stride, whatever you call it. I'll definitely keep watching.
Both Silco and Vander are new characters unless one turns out to be a champion somehow. I cared about their story because it parallels the sisters' story. Especially at the end, it looks like Silco had compassion for Powder.
I've never even heard of the game. Will watch a couple episodes today, and report back.
The way the game works is that character we call champions fight in a arena. 10 players are divided into two teams of 5. The arena fights used to be part of the game's lore, but I believe this is no longer the case so the gameplay itself isn't part of the story.
So far the way the lore was told was mostly outside the game via cinematics, short stories, but also small quotes the champions say out loud during the game. Each champion also has a backstory written when they are released. (Right now there are 157 champions in the game.) Those quotes and backstories can be read from the game's site, or from the League of Legends wiki. For example, my favorite champion is called Sion and this is what it says about him:
(He can be seen at 1:34 in this cinematic which also reveals different places in the Runeterra world.)
In the past the lore was not very serious, but over time they have reworked some champions and tried to make it more cohesive. The older cinematics also didn't reveal much about the world compared to the newer stuff that is now filled with hidden secrets.
Personally I've never played LoL either, and this was nowhere on my radar of things to watch. But a friend invited me, so I absentmindedly tuned in and I honestly quite loved it. The animation alone is awesome, the art style is great and impacts are very intense and resounding. The characters are very personable and easy to connect to.
As a whole I feel like a lot of legitimate passion went into this project, not just a side project/ fanservice/a cashgrab/advertisement attempt. It seems that actual serious effort was spent into it, and it's great. Not that this means that you'll like it too, just wanted to share my experience with it.
This has spoilers from all 3 arcs:
I saw this great Jinx analysis on Reddit:
It's really cool when you think deeper about each character's motivations. There are many parallels that aren't right away obvious.