10 votes

Feedback for a beginner singer

19 comments

  1. [8]
    all_summer_beauty
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    Hmm, it's telling me I need an account to view that page/track. Is that something you have any control over?

    Hmm, it's telling me I need an account to view that page/track. Is that something you have any control over?

    7 votes
    1. kacey
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      (I tried signing up for an account, but I can't seem to receive their verification email šŸ™)

      (I tried signing up for an account, but I can't seem to receive their verification email šŸ™)

      2 votes
    2. [6]
      calypsotsuki
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      Oh darn, the settings are set to Public, but I don’t know if it’s a BandLab specific thing that they make you login. I recorded this on my Voice Memos app and couldn’t find another way to upload...

      Oh darn, the settings are set to Public, but I don’t know if it’s a BandLab specific thing that they make you login. I recorded this on my Voice Memos app and couldn’t find another way to upload the recording :/

      1. [5]
        all_summer_beauty
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        Gotcha, okay. @TheRtRevKaiser do you have a BandLab account? If not, can you share you how accessed it?

        Gotcha, okay. @TheRtRevKaiser do you have a BandLab account? If not, can you share you how accessed it?

        1 vote
        1. [3]
          calypsotsuki
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          It’s not the same, but here’s a video I took of me singing it again. The beginning is quite rough, but guess voice memos aren’t the best place to keep my recordings haha

          It’s not the same, but here’s a video I took of me singing it again. The beginning is quite rough, but guess voice memos aren’t the best place to keep my recordings haha

          4 votes
          1. Pistos
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            You're off to a good start in your journey! You can mostly stay on pitch and stay in time, following a melody you are hearing while you sing. As an interesting exercise, go find a vocals remover...

            You're off to a good start in your journey! You can mostly stay on pitch and stay in time, following a melody you are hearing while you sing.

            As an interesting exercise, go find a vocals remover online (they are myriad), and strip off the original artist's vocals from that track that you're singing with, then use that to try to sing the song without hearing the original artist at the same time.

            If you have the budget for it, learning from a teacher is recommended. They'll have the background and knowledge to guide you to the right places, and can work with you in person at the level you are at to help you get better by bit, giving you tailored exercises and repertoire that suit you.

            2 votes
          2. cdb
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            I listened to the video, and I have a few suggestions. I'm not a highly trained vocalist, but I have good amount of experience and education with wind instruments and used to do a lot of public...

            I listened to the video, and I have a few suggestions. I'm not a highly trained vocalist, but I have good amount of experience and education with wind instruments and used to do a lot of public singing (worship leader when I was a churchgoer).

            I get the sense that if I were on the other side of the room, I'd have trouble hearing you. Other people have mentioned breath support and diaphragm breathing. This is a bit nebulous, so I have a few practical bits of advice on this. One easy way to work on that is to sing LOUD. Take a big breath that fills your body, open your mouth WIDE and really let it out. Seems kind of gross, but you should easily be able to stick 3-4 fingers in your mouth without hitting your teeth if you're doing it right (this is just as a guideline, not recommending doing this while singing). You might feel like you're shouting, and that's the point. It might even help to pretend you're mad and yelling at someone. We can learn to sing quieter after we learn how to open up.

            Second thing is intonation (pitch). You're targeting the right pitches, but frequently sharp or flat. This can be worked on by singing along with a track, listening really carefully at your voice, and being very picky about matching your pitch to other singer, shifting your pitch to meet them if necessary. Being able to hit exactly the pitch you want is kind of a life-long pursuit, so it's really about developing skills for this over time.

            Last thing is to sing a lot. Your voice is a malleable instrument that improves with practice, especially deliberate practice. You don't have to focus on all this stuff, but it might be helpful to think on at least one thing while you're singing for fun in the car or the shower or something.

            1 vote
        2. TheRtRevKaiser
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          Yeah I already had an account on BandLab

          Yeah I already had an account on BandLab

          2 votes
  2. [7]
    TheRtRevKaiser
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    First of all - HUGE kudos to you for being vulnerable and sharing your journey, and being open to feedback. I'm not a pro and haven't had a ton of training (so someone else who knows better might...

    First of all - HUGE kudos to you for being vulnerable and sharing your journey, and being open to feedback.

    I'm not a pro and haven't had a ton of training (so someone else who knows better might come along and tell you differently), but I've done a little and to me it sounds like the first thing you need to work on is breath support. You have very nice tone naturally, but it sounds to me like you don't have much practice supporting it so that you keep a consistent and stable tone and pitch. Have a good, solid foundation for your voice makes almost everything about singing easier.

    7 votes
    1. [6]
      calypsotsuki
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      Thank you I really appreciate the feedback! Breath support, noted. If you happen to have any recommendations or know some good resources that would help please let me know! I’ll look into it...

      Thank you I really appreciate the feedback! Breath support, noted. If you happen to have any recommendations or know some good resources that would help please let me know! I’ll look into it myself though and do some research :)

      2 votes
      1. [2]
        fnulare
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        And, pls, pretty pls when you have found useful resources pls share them with the class!

        And, pls, pretty pls when you have found useful resources pls share them with the class!

        3 votes
        1. calypsotsuki
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          Will do, so far I've come across these videos to understand what breath support is: "Breath Support Definition - What Is Breath Support?" How to ACTUALLY Use Breath Support (Ultimate Guide) If I...

          Will do, so far I've come across these videos to understand what breath support is:

          "Breath Support Definition - What Is Breath Support?"

          How to ACTUALLY Use Breath Support (Ultimate Guide)

          If I find more videos that I've found helpful I'll let you know!

          3 votes
      2. [2]
        TheRtRevKaiser
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        I don't have any specific recommendations, but if I come across anything I'll try to remember to let you know. I can say that every experience I've had with voice instructors/choir teachers (and...

        I don't have any specific recommendations, but if I come across anything I'll try to remember to let you know. I can say that every experience I've had with voice instructors/choir teachers (and to echo @TheRTV, band teachers) they all very heavily emphasized diaphragmatic breathing and breath support very heavily and early on. Breathing exercises were one of the most common things I learned in choir and in band, and they were a frequent part of warmups and practice. It really can't be understated how important it is to have good, firm, consistent breath support when you're trying to make music with your lungs, lol.

        Also, this seems like a small thing but I wonder if you were standing or sitting when you recorded your singing? If you were sitting, just try singing standing up some - I think you'll be surprised how much easier it is to support your voice when you're standing up rather than singing. It's not a cheat code or anything, but it definitely makes things easier.

        3 votes
        1. calypsotsuki
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          Sounds good, thank you! Yeah I didn't do band and/or choir aside from what was mandatory throughout elementary school so it's very much outside of my knowledge base on what I should be working on....

          Sounds good, thank you! Yeah I didn't do band and/or choir aside from what was mandatory throughout elementary school so it's very much outside of my knowledge base on what I should be working on. Though I am noticing a pattern on the importance of breathing/breath support in terms of feedback

          I was sitting in the BandLab recording, but I tried a bit of breathing exercises and stood up in the YouTube video recording (not sure if a difference can be heard though haha)

          1 vote
      3. TheRTV
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        I wasn't a singer, but played an instrument in band all through school and college. First thing is you need to breath with your diaphragm. You can find a lot of resources online for that, but this...

        I wasn't a singer, but played an instrument in band all through school and college. First thing is you need to breath with your diaphragm. You can find a lot of resources online for that, but this will be important. The it will be learning when to breath during performance.

        2 votes
  3. [4]
    calypsotsuki
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    I’m trying to improve my voice/singing and would appreciate any feedback. I’m quite a novice to singing so my experience is limited to karaoke at parties and playing the uke once in a while to...

    I’m trying to improve my voice/singing and would appreciate any feedback. I’m quite a novice to singing so my experience is limited to karaoke at parties and playing the uke once in a while to songs I like.

    I’m very new to the technical aspects of singing, but I wasn’t sure on where to start and what to work on first. I’d appreciate any constructive feedback on what I did well, what I could work on, and where I struggled. Any other feedback that you think will help me is welcome.

    Please be gentle as this is my first time sharing my singing on the internet šŸ™

    tks

    4 votes
    1. [3]
      trim
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      What I did when I was learning to sing was play A440 standard pitches within my vocal range, on a keyboard, and attempt to hit each one, gliding in to it if I had to. A bit of glide to reach pitch...

      What I did when I was learning to sing was play A440 standard pitches within my vocal range, on a keyboard, and attempt to hit each one, gliding in to it if I had to. A bit of glide to reach pitch is not a bad thing IMO, it's characterful I think. Or it can be. I never learned breath technique or any such thing. I suppose these days I'd use some website or a DAW or something.

      Bear in mind, I'm just some bum who's a self taught multi instrumentalist (lol, overselling much) who sings a bit. I'm currently rehearsing a set for mum's 80th birthday in 2 weeks, which is still a year awa... HOLY HECK IT'S NEXT WEEK

      Another tip would be to sing what you enjoy. Might sound obvious but I've spent too much time playing and singing things I didn't care all that much for

      2 votes
      1. [2]
        calypsotsuki
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        What's it mean to play A440 standard pitches in your vocal range? Sorry, my musical knowledge is limited and I couldn't quite find an answer through Google. All I found was that 440 Hz is a...

        What's it mean to play A440 standard pitches in your vocal range? Sorry, my musical knowledge is limited and I couldn't quite find an answer through Google. All I found was that 440 Hz is a frequency that a standardized pitch correlates to. My understanding is to play the 440 Hz pitch and try to match it using my voice?

        Good point! I definitely could get caught up in the technical aspects and forget to simply enjoy singing to songs that I like. For right now, The Night We Met is a song I enjoy singing along to. It just happens to be comfortably within my vocal range and has aspects where I can practice and develop parts of my voice :)

        1 vote
        1. trim
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          Sorry, it's just the notes you'd find on a piano , white notes, CDEFGABC, the do rey mi scale :) You might find your range expands or changes as A) you get better and B) you get older, which we...

          Sorry, it's just the notes you'd find on a piano , white notes, CDEFGABC, the do rey mi scale :)

          You might find your range expands or changes as A) you get better and B) you get older, which we all do. Mine's certainly changed since I was gigging aged 17, and I'm the broad side of 50 now , lol

          I wish I could offer something concrete, but as I say, I'm just a self taught hack (apart from Keyboard and Harp where I had formal training), but certainly self taught on the uke, guitar, flute and vocal.

          Used to KJ a Karaoke after we discovered it was more profitable than being a duo. That was a depressing realisation. More venues would pay us more money to host a Karaoke event than would pay to hear us play instruments and sing. Oh well :)

          2 votes