Imagine your manhood (and yes, I say manhood because I've never seen anybody else do this) being so fucking fragile that you're triggered by other peoples' cars. I have too many faux-"country...
Imagine your manhood (and yes, I say manhood because I've never seen anybody else do this) being so fucking fragile that you're triggered by other peoples' cars.
I have too many faux-"country boys" in my area that are like this and they're all pieces of shit. They always get their pickups with daddy's money, never shut up about how "country" they are, and deliberately talk in a terrible southern accent despite living in Iowa. The worst part is that these people don't know the first thing about farming or the actual lifestyle, they just want to act hick for some unknown reason.
I am frankly astounded that we have lawmakers so braindead they don't see the problem with this practice.
Rolling coal remains illegal throughout the country. Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) last year introduced the "Recognizing the Protection of Motorsports Act," S. 203, in an effort to decriminalize the practice. A co-sponsor was Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.), one of Congress' most vocal climate skeptics.
Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) introduced a companion bill in the House. But the measure ultimately failed to gain traction.
I am frankly astounded that we have lawmakers so braindead they don't see the problem with this practice.
The danger is obscuring the vision of other motorists; the environmental impact is minimal. It's diesel exhaust and no more harmful than the emissions of a diesel Volkswagen sedan - the difference...
The danger is obscuring the vision of other motorists; the environmental impact is minimal.
It's diesel exhaust and no more harmful than the emissions of a diesel Volkswagen sedan - the difference is that coal rollers remove the particulate filter, which is a fairly recent requirement for diesel vehicles in general. At most the impact to the environment is about consuming more fuel, rather than the effect of the thick black exhaust.
To be clear, I abhor the practice but I think the arguments against it are strong enough without inflating the environmental impact (that some do, not saying you specifically did this).
Awesome point. As purely a car driver I didn't consider those exposed directly to the elements. I'd say though that I still think that falls under the immediately dangerous category and not the...
Awesome point. As purely a car driver I didn't consider those exposed directly to the elements. I'd say though that I still think that falls under the immediately dangerous category and not the environmentally dangerous.
"It would be the equivalent of a Tesla parking at a fuel pump at a gas station and walking away." Wrong. It's a parking lot, not a gas/fuel station. Different expectations. I don't have a truck,...
"It would be the equivalent of a Tesla parking at a fuel pump at a gas station and walking away."
Wrong. It's a parking lot, not a gas/fuel station. Different expectations.
I don't have a truck, but if the tesla "spots" are open and closest to where I'm going, I'm going to park in one.
Where I live, the charging stations are typically at the back end or side of the parking lot, further from most other spots. That said, I often park at fuel pumps without getting fuel simply...
Where I live, the charging stations are typically at the back end or side of the parking lot, further from most other spots. That said, I often park at fuel pumps without getting fuel simply because it’s easier than parking my truck perpendicular to the store or the place doesn’t have spots for non fuel. At the same time, the Tesla station near my office is in a busy plaza that always has double parking and frequently has various vehicles parked in the Tesla spots during peak parking times. I doubt it’s people trying to get a dig at Tesla owners, just people wanting tasty Mexican food.
I went to one of the malls here in the week before Christmas, and they had a security guard posted at their Tesla charging spots in the parking lot and those construction barricades all around...
I went to one of the malls here in the week before Christmas, and they had a security guard posted at their Tesla charging spots in the parking lot and those construction barricades all around them to prevent other people from parking there. I'm sure it wasn't related to the deliberate blocking in this article, just that Christmas shoppers definitely would have parked there if they were open.
Do the malls get paid for having those spots? It seems ridiculous that they'd need to pay for employees to constantly guard them during peak times.
The analogy with veganism turned the light on for me. Back in the day when I worked with cooks and chefs, I can't even begin to describe the fear and loathing for vegetarians. For pro cooks, the...
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The analogy with veganism turned the light on for me. Back in the day when I worked with cooks and chefs, I can't even begin to describe the fear and loathing for vegetarians.
For pro cooks, the butcher's skills of turning animal flesh from bloody carcasses into elegant and/or delicious food, are an essential part of the art. It's an identity and tribal thing to have exquisite, cherished specialized knives, swung with great swagger, to fight about techniques, to compete on results, to work very hard, and invest tremendous amounts of energy into improving their meat craft. And they didn't become cooks because they hate food - they have opinions.
Anthony Bourdain's quote, in Kitchen Confidential, summed it up well:
Vegetarians, and their Hezbollah-like splinter-faction, the vegans, are a persistent irritant to any chef worth a damn. To me, life without veal stock, pork fat, sausage, organ meat, demi-glace or even stinky cheese is a life not worth living. Vegetarians are an affront to all I stand for, the pure enjoyment of food. Oh, I'll accommodate them, I'll rummage around for something to feed them. Fourteen dollars for a few slices of grilled eggplant (aubergine) and zucchini (courgette) suits my food cost fine.
The idea that some precious snowflakes would disrespect such a fundamental part of the lore and craft of the trade enrages them. It's also not hard for cooks and chefs to connect the dots and conclude that their chosen livelihood is threatened if other restaurants are taking business away by serving changes in market tastes. Chefs make deep lifelong emotional investments in the belief that what they do is worthwhile, good for its own sake, and they'll go to war to preserve the tradition.
I've seen cooks intentionally add meat stock to ostensibly vegetarian dishes, cook vegan items in saute' pans that just held slabs of cow, lie about egg and dairy content, and a number of other acts of contemptuous sabotage.
[In the baking world, there was an equivalent for carb-avoiders and paleo dieters, who were making our lives difficult by choice. Cooking for people who had "genuine" medical needs, like diabetics, was an interesting challenge. Accommodating the sudden epidemics of gluten intolerance and peanut allergy became tiresome, then irritating. Watching business decline because people didn't want sugar or flour was terrifying; even at the best of times, profits were marginal and we were working mainly for love of the craft.]
I'm not saying the coal-rollers or ICE'er's are right, they're just self-righteous. They love their trucks with the same passionate intensity; as symbols of identity, with the same deep emotional ties that chefs have for knives and meat and sugar.
We're all well-aware that there's an entire industry dependent on profits from fossil fuels, oil and coal, which is frightened for its declining role in the world. That industry is funding skillfully crafted propaganda to justify continuing exercise of the "right" to consume its products without limit.
Vanity pickup owners share a constellation of beliefs and toxic masculinity (I use the term from experience, with respect to both chefs and pickup owners) that make them perfect tools for exploitation by the petro oligarchs and resource extraction barons.
It's easy to convince truck-lovers that someone will come to take away their beloved vehicles, or price giant truck ownership out of reach through fuel taxes and other measures. It's not difficult to goad them into sabotage or violence against those who choose not to consume planet-ruining products, as symbols of threat.
This is essentially the same playbook as the weapon manufacturers used to aim gun owners at the murder control movement, and the meat industry is now employing on meat substitution.
Edit and footnote: I took the culinary school butchery class with this chef; opening day was a guy driving up in a monster pickup with a freshly killed deer for the advanced charcuterie course.
Those are usually the same people. There's this culture that's pushed in a lot of places (largely rural) that it's right and justified to hate anything that's new and different. It's not a new...
The sheer pettiness of blocking people from using battery chargers or "rolling coal" to spew soot on people's sidewalks or electric cars is just insane. This really reminds me of the folks that rail about how much they hate vegans for not eating meat.
Those are usually the same people. There's this culture that's pushed in a lot of places (largely rural) that it's right and justified to hate anything that's new and different. It's not a new mindset by any means, but it feels really out of place these days.
I read about four paragraphs before I got quite reasonably angry about the article and had to close it. Forgive my language, but how fucking stupid does someone have to be to do something like...
I read about four paragraphs before I got quite reasonably angry about the article and had to close it.
Forgive my language, but how fucking stupid does someone have to be to do something like that? If I had it handy, I'd post the Farnsworth-I-Dont-Want-To-Live-on-this-planet-anymore.jpg.
I think this stupid stunt is a lot better than rolling coal. The latter can actually hurt people who have respiratory issues. And this stupid stunt is blatantly illegal and easy to prevent by shop...
I think this stupid stunt is a lot better than rolling coal. The latter can actually hurt people who have respiratory issues. And this stupid stunt is blatantly illegal and easy to prevent by shop owners simply calling the police (which they will happily do since those Tesla chargers are part of their business).
People don't hate vegans for not eating meat. People hate vegans who think they're superior to everyone else for not eating meat (wording chosen specifically to imply that it's not all vegans. I...
This really reminds me of the folks that rail about how much they hate vegans for not eating meat.
People don't hate vegans for not eating meat. People hate vegans who think they're superior to everyone else for not eating meat (wording chosen specifically to imply that it's not all vegans. I really hope this disclaimer isn't necessary.).
Unfortunately I feel like this is becoming less true. It used to be (in my limited experience) that I'd only ever hear people complaining about self-righteous vegans/vegetarians but I never...
Unfortunately I feel like this is becoming less true. It used to be (in my limited experience) that I'd only ever hear people complaining about self-righteous vegans/vegetarians but I never actually saw it, and it always felt more like an attack on vegans than a valid complaint from experience. Lately though, in discussions about climate change, it's common for the idea of lessening one's carbon-footprint by eating less meat/dairy to come up, and in those discussions I do see quite a few self-righteous vegans pushing the idea that eating meat is evil and that theirs is the only moral way to live. As the effects of climate change become more evident in our daily lives, and as our governments continue to do too little about it (speaking as a Canadian here), I think this discussion and the extreme responses to it will become more mainstream.
It depends on the environment you're in. It's like any other belief or group - one person who holds x belief in a group of y believers is very likely to integrate well and 'play nice'. The other...
It depends on the environment you're in. It's like any other belief or group - one person who holds x belief in a group of y believers is very likely to integrate well and 'play nice'. The other side of that though... Nearish where I live there's a, I want to say hippy commune, but that would probably be 'problematic', so let's just call it a bunch of people with dreadlocks and tie-dye who smell like arse and don't make an astonishing amount of money. Among other things they are militant vegans, who do things like stage (small, but smelly) protests outside burger joints and such.
They've radicalised because they live together in an insular little community - but there's almost certainly vegans I work with or whatever that I don't know are vegans because I don't eat with them and they keep their own shit their own. Problem with that though is when you try thinking of 'a vegan' the image in your head isn't going to be quiet little Jenny in the office 2 levels down, it's going to be miss deodorant is murder screaming at people on the footpath.
These people grow up being taught that questioning the status quo is an attack on their tribal ideology. The thinking is that the group's decisions have gotten them this far - why would they...
These people grow up being taught that questioning the status quo is an attack on their tribal ideology. The thinking is that the group's decisions have gotten them this far - why would they deviate? It's wired into them to react in this way.
Imagine your manhood (and yes, I say manhood because I've never seen anybody else do this) being so fucking fragile that you're triggered by other peoples' cars.
I have too many faux-"country boys" in my area that are like this and they're all pieces of shit. They always get their pickups with daddy's money, never shut up about how "country" they are, and deliberately talk in a terrible southern accent despite living in Iowa. The worst part is that these people don't know the first thing about farming or the actual lifestyle, they just want to act hick for some unknown reason.
I am frankly astounded that we have lawmakers so braindead they don't see the problem with this practice.
What does it say about me that this made me laugh?
The danger is obscuring the vision of other motorists; the environmental impact is minimal.
It's diesel exhaust and no more harmful than the emissions of a diesel Volkswagen sedan - the difference is that coal rollers remove the particulate filter, which is a fairly recent requirement for diesel vehicles in general. At most the impact to the environment is about consuming more fuel, rather than the effect of the thick black exhaust.
To be clear, I abhor the practice but I think the arguments against it are strong enough without inflating the environmental impact (that some do, not saying you specifically did this).
As a motorcyclist I beg to disagree, breathing in that stuff and having a coughing fit when travelling at 70mph is not fun, at all.
Awesome point. As purely a car driver I didn't consider those exposed directly to the elements. I'd say though that I still think that falls under the immediately dangerous category and not the environmentally dangerous.
Some of these idiots target cyclists.
That's terrible. Why?
"It would be the equivalent of a Tesla parking at a fuel pump at a gas station and walking away."
Wrong. It's a parking lot, not a gas/fuel station. Different expectations.
I don't have a truck, but if the tesla "spots" are open and closest to where I'm going, I'm going to park in one.
Where I live, the charging stations are typically at the back end or side of the parking lot, further from most other spots. That said, I often park at fuel pumps without getting fuel simply because it’s easier than parking my truck perpendicular to the store or the place doesn’t have spots for non fuel. At the same time, the Tesla station near my office is in a busy plaza that always has double parking and frequently has various vehicles parked in the Tesla spots during peak parking times. I doubt it’s people trying to get a dig at Tesla owners, just people wanting tasty Mexican food.
I went to one of the malls here in the week before Christmas, and they had a security guard posted at their Tesla charging spots in the parking lot and those construction barricades all around them to prevent other people from parking there. I'm sure it wasn't related to the deliberate blocking in this article, just that Christmas shoppers definitely would have parked there if they were open.
Do the malls get paid for having those spots? It seems ridiculous that they'd need to pay for employees to constantly guard them during peak times.
The analogy with veganism turned the light on for me. Back in the day when I worked with cooks and chefs, I can't even begin to describe the fear and loathing for vegetarians.
For pro cooks, the butcher's skills of turning animal flesh from bloody carcasses into elegant and/or delicious food, are an essential part of the art. It's an identity and tribal thing to have exquisite, cherished specialized knives, swung with great swagger, to fight about techniques, to compete on results, to work very hard, and invest tremendous amounts of energy into improving their meat craft. And they didn't become cooks because they hate food - they have opinions.
Anthony Bourdain's quote, in Kitchen Confidential, summed it up well:
The idea that some precious snowflakes would disrespect such a fundamental part of the lore and craft of the trade enrages them. It's also not hard for cooks and chefs to connect the dots and conclude that their chosen livelihood is threatened if other restaurants are taking business away by serving changes in market tastes. Chefs make deep lifelong emotional investments in the belief that what they do is worthwhile, good for its own sake, and they'll go to war to preserve the tradition.
I've seen cooks intentionally add meat stock to ostensibly vegetarian dishes, cook vegan items in saute' pans that just held slabs of cow, lie about egg and dairy content, and a number of other acts of contemptuous sabotage.
[In the baking world, there was an equivalent for carb-avoiders and paleo dieters, who were making our lives difficult by choice. Cooking for people who had "genuine" medical needs, like diabetics, was an interesting challenge. Accommodating the sudden epidemics of gluten intolerance and peanut allergy became tiresome, then irritating. Watching business decline because people didn't want sugar or flour was terrifying; even at the best of times, profits were marginal and we were working mainly for love of the craft.]
I'm not saying the coal-rollers or ICE'er's are right, they're just self-righteous. They love their trucks with the same passionate intensity; as symbols of identity, with the same deep emotional ties that chefs have for knives and meat and sugar.
We're all well-aware that there's an entire industry dependent on profits from fossil fuels, oil and coal, which is frightened for its declining role in the world. That industry is funding skillfully crafted propaganda to justify continuing exercise of the "right" to consume its products without limit.
Vanity pickup owners share a constellation of beliefs and toxic masculinity (I use the term from experience, with respect to both chefs and pickup owners) that make them perfect tools for exploitation by the petro oligarchs and resource extraction barons.
It's easy to convince truck-lovers that someone will come to take away their beloved vehicles, or price giant truck ownership out of reach through fuel taxes and other measures. It's not difficult to goad them into sabotage or violence against those who choose not to consume planet-ruining products, as symbols of threat.
This is essentially the same playbook as the weapon manufacturers used to aim gun owners at the murder control movement, and the meat industry is now employing on meat substitution.
Edit and footnote: I took the culinary school butchery class with this chef; opening day was a guy driving up in a monster pickup with a freshly killed deer for the advanced charcuterie course.
Those are usually the same people. There's this culture that's pushed in a lot of places (largely rural) that it's right and justified to hate anything that's new and different. It's not a new mindset by any means, but it feels really out of place these days.
I read about four paragraphs before I got quite reasonably angry about the article and had to close it.
Forgive my language, but how fucking stupid does someone have to be to do something like that? If I had it handy, I'd post the Farnsworth-I-Dont-Want-To-Live-on-this-planet-anymore.jpg.
That's a great shot and I love the green accents. What lake is that?
Oh that's crazy, I thought that was snow on the tires and that you were on a frozen lake! Thank you for sharing, those are great shots.
I think this stupid stunt is a lot better than rolling coal. The latter can actually hurt people who have respiratory issues. And this stupid stunt is blatantly illegal and easy to prevent by shop owners simply calling the police (which they will happily do since those Tesla chargers are part of their business).
People don't hate vegans for not eating meat. People hate vegans who think they're superior to everyone else for not eating meat (wording chosen specifically to imply that it's not all vegans. I really hope this disclaimer isn't necessary.).
Eh, for what it's worth, I've seen way more unsolicited vegan hate than self righteous vegans.
Unfortunately I feel like this is becoming less true. It used to be (in my limited experience) that I'd only ever hear people complaining about self-righteous vegans/vegetarians but I never actually saw it, and it always felt more like an attack on vegans than a valid complaint from experience. Lately though, in discussions about climate change, it's common for the idea of lessening one's carbon-footprint by eating less meat/dairy to come up, and in those discussions I do see quite a few self-righteous vegans pushing the idea that eating meat is evil and that theirs is the only moral way to live. As the effects of climate change become more evident in our daily lives, and as our governments continue to do too little about it (speaking as a Canadian here), I think this discussion and the extreme responses to it will become more mainstream.
It depends on the environment you're in. It's like any other belief or group - one person who holds x belief in a group of y believers is very likely to integrate well and 'play nice'. The other side of that though... Nearish where I live there's a, I want to say hippy commune, but that would probably be 'problematic', so let's just call it a bunch of people with dreadlocks and tie-dye who smell like arse and don't make an astonishing amount of money. Among other things they are militant vegans, who do things like stage (small, but smelly) protests outside burger joints and such.
They've radicalised because they live together in an insular little community - but there's almost certainly vegans I work with or whatever that I don't know are vegans because I don't eat with them and they keep their own shit their own. Problem with that though is when you try thinking of 'a vegan' the image in your head isn't going to be quiet little Jenny in the office 2 levels down, it's going to be miss deodorant is murder screaming at people on the footpath.
That's really untrue.
These people grow up being taught that questioning the status quo is an attack on their tribal ideology. The thinking is that the group's decisions have gotten them this far - why would they deviate? It's wired into them to react in this way.