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Why Americans eat dessert for breakfast

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  1. [12]
    Akir
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    There are so many hot takes in this video I can't stand it. I was really frustrated when he brought up that Bill Gates doesn't eat breakfast and it just got worse over time. And suddenly I realize...

    There are so many hot takes in this video I can't stand it. I was really frustrated when he brought up that Bill Gates doesn't eat breakfast and it just got worse over time. And suddenly I realize why I'm bothered by this; this is an opinion video masquerading as an educational video; he doesn't actually provide any citations.

    Perhaps the worst part of this video is that he doesn't actually have a very firm grasp on what American Breakfast is, which is why he uses the IHOP caricature of it. IHOP and most diners like it aren't an accurate portrayal of what people eat at home; they give you giant servings and are significantly higher in calories than an average breakfast. Restaurants in general sell their services as providing an experience that you couldn't or otherwise wouldn't be able to do at home.

    I'm especially irritated at how he derides everything as being inspired by European food simply to disparage it (I only wonder where he thinks American people came from). He calls pancake "bread" and criticizes how we eat it with butter and syrup, but he doesn't mention that there's pancakes all across Europe, which can be both sweet or savory - which obviously is coming from bad faith because he already mentioned the IHOP nutella crepes were Italian. And then just to be inconsistant he criticizes American waffles for not being made with pearl sugar like Belgian liege waffles.

    I don't even know why he even brings up doughnuts, to be honest. I have never known anyone to eat a doughnut for breakfast. The only person I know who has even been to a doughnut shop for breakfast did so because they were purchasing their fresh croissants for a sandwich.

    It feels like he's having this whole tirade because he believed all the marketing done for super sweet breakfast cereals marketed to children. If he simply looked at a supermarket cereal isle he could see that there are tons of options with little to no sugar added. And if he looked at the yogurt section that most of the options are made with reduced fat or skim milk, there are also plenty of options with reduced sugar or artificial sweeteners instead, and there are also unsweetened unflavored options.

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    1. [5]
      cloud_loud
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      As an American, I’ve seen a lot of Americans eat donuts for breakfast. I’ve eaten donuts for breakfast. Dunkin’ is usually the most busy in the morning. The Mexican bakery I go to is also full in...

      As an American, I’ve seen a lot of Americans eat donuts for breakfast. I’ve eaten donuts for breakfast. Dunkin’ is usually the most busy in the morning.

      The Mexican bakery I go to is also full in the morning. Pan dulce is something I’ve eaten for breakfast as well. More so when I was a kid but still something I eat from time to time.

      8 votes
      1. [4]
        Akir
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        I've seen plenty of people eat literal sweets for breakfast, but it's generally things like danishes and muffins (and pan dulce, though much less commonly). Just not donuts.

        I've seen plenty of people eat literal sweets for breakfast, but it's generally things like danishes and muffins (and pan dulce, though much less commonly). Just not donuts.

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        1. [3]
          cfabbro
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          It's pretty common to see people eating donuts at breakfast here in Canada. Tim Hortons' across the country are packed every morning with people buying coffee, and various (usually sweet) pastries...

          It's pretty common to see people eating donuts at breakfast here in Canada. Tim Hortons' across the country are packed every morning with people buying coffee, and various (usually sweet) pastries to go along with it. So I don't see why it would be any different in the US at similar places like Dunkin'.

          p.s. When I worked in Landscaping it was very common for the whole crew to have coffee and donuts together at the start of the day. So it might be more of a blue collar thing, and maybe that's why you haven't personally noticed it as much?

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          1. [2]
            Akir
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            It's probably more to do with where I live; I think California is a bit more health-concious than most of the country. There's still lots of ways to wreck your nutrition here, though, including...

            It's probably more to do with where I live; I think California is a bit more health-concious than most of the country. There's still lots of ways to wreck your nutrition here, though, including donut shops. I figure in order to have donuts for breakfast you have to have access to a shop to begin with, and most of the donut shops in my area are independant stores without drive-throughs.

            I really get both sides of this argument, because to me I think super sweet breakfasts are absolutely disgusting. If my breakfast choices are going to come out of a box of pastries I'm going to comb through it for savory options first. And in reality, I hate super-sweet donuts altogether; I can't stand the jelly-filled ones and Krispy Kream makes perhaps the worst plain glazed donut out there. But on the other hand, a morning carb booster to start your day makes a lot of sense to me, especially if it's the easy option.

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            1. cfabbro
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              Ah, yeah, LOL. I don't think the overall food trends in California are a good indicator of the eating habits of the majority of the US, or even Canada either, for that matter. And, yeah, LOL. We...

              Ah, yeah, LOL. I don't think the overall food trends in California are a good indicator of the eating habits of the majority of the US, or even Canada either, for that matter.

              And, yeah, LOL. We clearly have completely different tastes too, since IMO Krispy Kream original glazed are the absolute best! Although I can only eat one before getting a sugar overload, and so I usually go for Tim Hortons old fashioned or sour cream glazed, since they're much less sweet. Though TBH I don't really eat many donuts anymore (maybe once every 3-4 months), even though there is a drive-through Timmies on practically every major intersection here in Ontario.

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    2. [2]
      EgoEimi
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      I went to Denny's (an IHOP competitor) last month for the first time after many years of living abroad. The portions were... absurd. I agree that IHOP does not represent the average breakfast. But...

      I went to Denny's (an IHOP competitor) last month for the first time after many years of living abroad. The portions were... absurd.

      I agree that IHOP does not represent the average breakfast. But I think that IHOP does represent some cultural notion of what a "full" breakfast can be, since IHOP and Denny's are so successful. In many food cultures, breakfast is a spartan affair. But American food culture has this idea of cornucopia of a "complete" breakfast.

      But I also agree that this an opinion video masquerading as an educational video. I know Johnny Harris is no longer with Vox, but I think Vox and similar outlets have long been trending with these kinds of opinion-as-fact videos too.

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      1. vord
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        Random hypothesis: America's breakfast portions are so different due to a long, sordid, continuing, history of not letting workers have breaks to eat. I wonder if there's substantia anything to...

        In many food cultures, breakfast is a spartan affair. But American food culture has this idea of cornucopia of a "complete" breakfast.

        Random hypothesis: America's breakfast portions are so different due to a long, sordid, continuing, history of not letting workers have breaks to eat.

        I wonder if there's substantia
        anything to that. My hypothesis was formed around the fact the only times i would eat a larger breakfast is if i was going to work and wouldn't get a break for 5 hours. Or as a special-occasion thing like brunch, or hangover recovery.

        2 votes
    3. [3]
      lou
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      That's odd, from the start it seemed very clear to me that this was an opinion piece. I don't have enough information to either agree or disagree with your other criticisms. I believe the guy in...

      That's odd, from the start it seemed very clear to me that this was an opinion piece. I don't have enough information to either agree or disagree with your other criticisms. I believe the guy in the video is American.

      2 votes
      1. [2]
        Akir
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        This guy is literally a video journalist; check his bio at the end of the video description. The title is what originally made me think it was going to be informational piece; if a title begins...

        This guy is literally a video journalist; check his bio at the end of the video description. The title is what originally made me think it was going to be informational piece; if a title begins with "why" it's generally expected you'd be presenting facts.

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        1. lou
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          That's fair. But I don't think it takes long after hitting play to understand that's an opinion piece. I didn't feel particularly fooled in that regard.

          That's fair. But I don't think it takes long after hitting play to understand that's an opinion piece. I didn't feel particularly fooled in that regard.

          2 votes
    4. NoblePath
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      For the record, I do pRefer doughnuts (and cinnamon rolls) at breakfast time.

      For the record, I do pRefer doughnuts (and cinnamon rolls) at breakfast time.

      2 votes