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Eating breakfast is not a good weight loss strategy, scientists confirm

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  1. [9]
    Pilgrim
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    The formula has and always will be to consume fewer calories than you expend; the trick is figuring out how to do that without feeling like you're starving. So go with whatever best accomplishes...

    The formula has and always will be to consume fewer calories than you expend; the trick is figuring out how to do that without feeling like you're starving. So go with whatever best accomplishes that for you, breakfast or not :)

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      clerical_terrors
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      Yeah the enduring conclusions of dietary sciences remain that the real issue simply boils down to intake vs use of calories. Skipping breakfast but not watching your other meals isn't going to help.

      Yeah the enduring conclusions of dietary sciences remain that the real issue simply boils down to intake vs use of calories. Skipping breakfast but not watching your other meals isn't going to help.

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      1. [7]
        biox
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        It's truly not that simple, there are many studies that show an ambiguous link between an obesity-related gene and increased levels of food intake. Not that you're wrong, but I would hardly call...

        It's truly not that simple, there are many studies that show an ambiguous link between an obesity-related gene and increased levels of food intake. Not that you're wrong, but I would hardly call the conclusions enduring. It is still possible that genes have an influence over body weight to a larger degree than we understand.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4188449/

        many studies examined whether FTO SNPs associate with food intake and physical activity as the two major mediators of body weight regulation.

        . The BMI-increasing allele of FTO SNPs has been found to be associated with increased energy intake,80,95-97 increased intake of dietary fat or protein, increased appetite and reduced satiety, poor food choices and eating habits, and loss of control over eating. A recent GWAS of macronutrient intake in more than 70,000 individuals identified the BMI-increasing allele of FTO SNPs to be highly significantly associated with increased protein intake. Despite the growing evidence, other studies have not been able to confirm associations with dietary traits.

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        1. [6]
          Greg
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          Surely that very much reinforces the point above, though? As I understand it, the paper is saying that genetics influences a person's appetite and food preferences in a way that will lead to...

          Surely that very much reinforces the point above, though? As I understand it, the paper is saying that genetics influences a person's appetite and food preferences in a way that will lead to obesity - tracking calorie intake seems like the logical way to combat that.

          I know that I personally have no hope of maintaining a healthy weight if I eat "intuitively", and that's exactly why I track my nutrition carefully.

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          1. clerical_terrors
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            Unfortunately humans are not fully rational beings, and it is too reductive to state one can simply overrule genetically passed down tendencies. Much in the same way it would be reductive to state...
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            Unfortunately humans are not fully rational beings, and it is too reductive to state one can simply overrule genetically passed down tendencies. Much in the same way it would be reductive to state that the solution to depression is to simply not be sad: there's more to it than that. @biox is right for pointing this out.

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          2. Gaywallet
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            Tracking drug intake won't stop most addicts from taking drugs. Sure, it's a tool, and it may work for some, but the reality is it's a very complicated situation and for some people will require a...

            Tracking drug intake won't stop most addicts from taking drugs.

            Sure, it's a tool, and it may work for some, but the reality is it's a very complicated situation and for some people will require a lot more intervention.

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          3. phantomPhreak
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            I think it's one of those, "easy to say, hard to do," situations. Of the people I've known to lose weight without surgery: it was done with diet and exercise. Easy enough to say that, but they...

            I think it's one of those, "easy to say, hard to do," situations. Of the people I've known to lose weight without surgery: it was done with diet and exercise.

            Easy enough to say that, but they were tracking what type of calories they ate, made sure they were eating healthy foods that would satisfy them (to avoid snacking looking for satisfaction), and exercised regularly to burn the energy they were consuming.

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          4. [2]
            biox
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            totally! it's indisputable that eating less and exercising leads to weight loss - of course. but my note in bold is important - other studies have not been able to confirm the association of this...

            As I understand it, the paper is saying that genetics influences a person's appetite and food preferences in a way that will lead to obesity - tracking calorie intake seems like the logical way to combat that.

            totally! it's indisputable that eating less and exercising leads to weight loss - of course.

            but my note in bold is important - other studies have not been able to confirm the association of this gene with dietary traits, meaning that in this one particular case, it's still possible that the gene could influence weight independent of food consumption.

            i'm sure there are other cases - but my point is that statements like 'eat less exercise more = weight loss' while they can be helpful, aren't proven to be entirely true, and could potentially be harmful or at the very least misleading.

            tl;dr maybe true, maybe not - helpful? up in the air.

            sorry i don't mean to come off as a prude, it's hard not to sound snobby when speaking pedantically like this :|

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              1. JackA
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                It also flies in the face of thermal dynamics. General health is more complicated than just the number of calories you eat and burn but weight is not.

                It also flies in the face of thermal dynamics. General health is more complicated than just the number of calories you eat and burn but weight is not.

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    Jehosephat
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    It's interesting too because of the relationship to intermittent fasting and potential benefits there too. For me, doing an IF regimen ultimately boils down to me skipping breakfast and not eating...

    It's interesting too because of the relationship to intermittent fasting and potential benefits there too. For me, doing an IF regimen ultimately boils down to me skipping breakfast and not eating after a certain time at night.

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      Taylor
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      It seems to be the only sustainable way to maintain an IM regiment. Skipping lunch could work too but the logistics of eating a breakfast right when you wake up and then a dinner right before bed...

      It seems to be the only sustainable way to maintain an IM regiment. Skipping lunch could work too but the logistics of eating a breakfast right when you wake up and then a dinner right before bed would be outrageous. Skipping dinner would work as well but it seems to be harder to skip especially if you have any social life since a lot of that revolves around eating dinner.

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      1. pleure
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        I generally have breakfast for lunch and then dinner, works fine for me from an appetite perspective. Except I'm trying to gain weight so it's actually pretty annoying.

        I generally have breakfast for lunch and then dinner, works fine for me from an appetite perspective. Except I'm trying to gain weight so it's actually pretty annoying.

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  3. harrygibus
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    Skipped breakfast most of my life - also never had any problem with my weight. I simply found that "priming the pump" too early meant I was hungry an hour (or more) before lunch time. Turns out I...

    Skipped breakfast most of my life - also never had any problem with my weight. I simply found that "priming the pump" too early meant I was hungry an hour (or more) before lunch time. Turns out I have been practicing intermittent fasting my whole life

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