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Portal RTX review: This particular release dramatically modernises the Valve classic with all-new assets and a fully path-traced pipeline, transforming the look of the game

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  1. [6]
    cfabbro
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    Portal with RTX if you have an RTX card and want to check it out yourself (it's free). RTX Remix page is worth checking out as well, especially if you want to set up a notification for its...

    Portal with RTX if you have an RTX card and want to check it out yourself (it's free).

    RTX Remix page is worth checking out as well, especially if you want to set up a notification for its release. I personally can't wait to give it a try on a bunch of old games, E.g. Morrowind, which NIVIDIA showcased in their official video. I'm also excited to see all the new RTX Remix created mods that are going to be released after it comes out too.

    4 votes
    1. [5]
      vord
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      I'm curious to know if the '4090 marketing' reviews are right. A few are mentioning NVIDIA artificially slowing 3000 series cards.

      I'm curious to know if the '4090 marketing' reviews are right. A few are mentioning NVIDIA artificially slowing 3000 series cards.

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        cfabbro
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        I haven't heard anything about that, so don't really know what you're talking about. Care to expand on that, or share some links? And what does it have to do with Portal RTX or RTX Remix?

        I haven't heard anything about that, so don't really know what you're talking about. Care to expand on that, or share some links? And what does it have to do with Portal RTX or RTX Remix?

        2 votes
        1. [3]
          vord
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          Went through the Steam reviews. It is on brand for NVIDIA to release a title they only bothered testing on their newest flagship products, not even thinking about their 30 series, let alone AMD...

          Went through the Steam reviews. It is on brand for NVIDIA to release a title they only bothered testing on their newest flagship products, not even thinking about their 30 series, let alone AMD hardware.

          It also tracks because the 4080 has been sitting on shelves because it has virtually no value over a 3080 relative to the 4090. This video covered the state of the market pretty well IMO.

          1. cfabbro
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            Huh? What you just said has nothing to do with "artificially slowing 3000 series cards", and neither does that video, as far as I can tell. And as for Portal with RTX, it's a completely free DLC...

            Huh? What you just said has nothing to do with "artificially slowing 3000 series cards", and neither does that video, as far as I can tell.

            And as for Portal with RTX, it's a completely free DLC (more akin to a tech demo) created using an experimental, cutting-edge, AI-driven application suite that NVIDIA haven't even released yet (and may never release, depending on how development goes). So of course it's still going to have major performance issues with anything but the most powerful NVIDIA cards. It likely hasn't been optimized all that much (or at all), since they're still not even done doing major overhauls and base functionality updates to it.

            And of course they aren't going to prioritize optimizing for AMD cards yet when it still doesn't even run all that well on their own flagship cards. If AMD was developing something similar to this they wouldn't have started with focusing on NVIDIA cards either.

            IMO, NVIDIA does enough totally unethical and underhanded shit already, completely in the open and without shame, that there is no need for anybody to make bullshit complaints about a free DLC/tech-demo, or invent conspiracy theories about older card performance, in order to be justifiably mad at them.

            5 votes
          2. p4t44
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            Runs completley fine (but quite hot) on my 3070 once settings are adjusted. My guess is that a lot of bad reviews are because the default performance settings are very high and adjusting them is...

            Runs completley fine (but quite hot) on my 3070 once settings are adjusted.

            My guess is that a lot of bad reviews are because the default performance settings are very high and adjusting them is in a separate menu that requires a keyboard shortcut to access.

            2 votes
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    Moonchild
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    Interesting. I almost wonder if it was an intentional choice to change the look of the game so much, for marketing purposes (i.e., to emphasise the differences in look from the original game)....

    Interesting. I almost wonder if it was an intentional choice to change the look of the game so much, for marketing purposes (i.e., to emphasise the differences in look from the original game). Presumably, the more accurate handling of reflections, applied naïvely to the game's existing lights and materials, caused the much brighter look we see here. But, as I understand it, this was a mod that was produced partly with automated tools, but also partly manually; it should have been possible (especially given nvidia's resources) to tweak the light intensity, specularity, etc., to produce something darker and more subtle, closer to the look of the original game (which aspects of which I prefer).

    4 votes
    1. cfabbro
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      He talked about the aesthetic difference in the video. Apparently it was all done in collaboration with Valve, so it wasn't just NVIDIA making these decisions, and many of the assets were...

      He talked about the aesthetic difference in the video. Apparently it was all done in collaboration with Valve, so it wasn't just NVIDIA making these decisions, and many of the assets were intentionally changed to make them look more like those found in Portal 2.

      4 votes
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    nothis
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    Maybe the most impressive use of plopping raytracing on a classic game I've seen so far. Honestly, it looks plain weird in Quake, like it over-emphasizes the sharp edges of low poly architecture....

    Maybe the most impressive use of plopping raytracing on a classic game I've seen so far. Honestly, it looks plain weird in Quake, like it over-emphasizes the sharp edges of low poly architecture. Portal is just at the right point of graphics history where you have nice, round corners where they should be, easily swappable assets where necessary and a crystal clear art direction. Also light effortlessly bouncing through portals is just a super impressive detail, I had no idea this was even possible with the way Portal renders portals.

    If I had an RTX card, I'd be into this in a heartbeat. But I won't drop like 1500€ for a graphics card (and the same money on the rest of the hardware) on a gimmick like that. It used to be that, for around 800€ (full PC including GPU), you could gain access to state-of-the-art videogaming experiences like that but now it's like 3000€, lol. At least this is starting to look like a genuinely new type of real time rendering, I've grown a bit bored with the progress in recent years, this feels fresh.

    3 votes
    1. vord
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      In the before times state of the art meant going from 2D to 3D. Quadrupuling or more the pixels pushed as resolution increases. 4K has been the high end for awhile now. It's just working up from...

      In the before times state of the art meant going from 2D to 3D. Quadrupuling or more the pixels pushed as resolution increases.

      4K has been the high end for awhile now. It's just working up from 60 fps to 120 fps, which has diminishing returns.

      Otherwise, it's just dialing up the pretty factor, and while RTX definitely looks pretty, it doesn't have that same weight of gameplay-changing improvements the way jumping to 1080p 60fps did for FPS.

      1 vote
  4. [2]
    KittyCat
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    I tried to run this on my steam deck. Unsurprisingly, run it did not.

    I tried to run this on my steam deck.
    Unsurprisingly, run it did not.

    3 votes
    1. moocow1452
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      I tried it my RX 480, no dice either.

      I tried it my RX 480, no dice either.

      3 votes
  5. Ember
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    I gave it a playthrough. Looks beautiful. For anyone who's already got an RTX card, you should definitely give this a try. If you've never played Portal before, you owe it to yourself as a PC...

    I gave it a playthrough. Looks beautiful. For anyone who's already got an RTX card, you should definitely give this a try. If you've never played Portal before, you owe it to yourself as a PC gamer to play it (though I doubt there's a large amount of people who have the cash to buy an RTX card but haven't heard of Valve's games). And if you've already played Portal, it's still worth a replay if only for nostalgia's sake; it's a short game especially if you remember the puzzle solutions (~90 minutes).

    Now... let's see if they do Half Life 2 with RTX next. Maybe the team behind Black Mesa will upgrade their game too?

    1 vote