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19 votes
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How to deal with high conflict people - Bill Eddy
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Unable to feel progress, lack of happiness and not finding motivation to keep investing
Hey Tildes, Recently I picked up WoW again and I've felt a rush and focus I haven't felt for a while. I can play the game for an entire day. I feel nothing but guilt doing so. The one thing that...
Hey Tildes,
Recently I picked up WoW again and I've felt a rush and focus I haven't felt for a while. I can play the game for an entire day. I feel nothing but guilt doing so. The one thing that gives me joy feels like something I'm not allowed to do at this stage of my life; I'm 35.
I'm in grouptherapy until march next year but I feel I'm not making any sensible progress. Others around me seem to open and loosen up, finding tangible changes that help their lives. Meanwhile I just keep resenting myself, dread doing anything that might even cost effort.
I feel I'm a fraud, a selfless good-for-nothing profiteer who blames anything but me. It fuels my self-hatred and my wish to self-isolate and act in self-destructive behavior. I also notice a growing bitterness as I get older.
26 votes -
Using Dungeons and Dragons as a group therapy tool
12 votes -
A lament on approaches to mental health
I’m really frustrated by recent experiences interfacing with the mental health system for myself and for my teenager. For them, it’s really atrocious. There may be effective options for the upper...
I’m really frustrated by recent experiences interfacing with the mental health system for myself and for my teenager. For them, it’s really atrocious. There may be effective options for the upper classes, but they aren’t accessible to me.
This is inspired by @X08’s recent [post] (https://tildes.net/~health.mental/1iia/unable_to_feel_progress_lack_of_happiness_and_not_finding_motivation_to_keep_investing) . Obviously I don’t know about their particulars, but I’ve certainly had the experience of being a part of a group where it appears others are progressing while I am not. Partly this is a problem of how we perceive, measure, and judge “success.” “Don’t compare my insides to others’ outsides,” as the saying goes. But it is possible to a more faithful and reflective comparison, and it does happen that others similar to me* make progress where I don’t, and it’s really frustrating. I’m often wondering, what’s wrong with me that I can’t change and grow?
I don’t have a great answer, although my exceptionally shitty childhood certainly plays a great role.
What I really want to comment on, though, is how insensitive our current mental health system is to the impact disparate causes have on creating similar symptoms, and how that should inform treatment approaches. A gifted psychiatrist (of which there are shockingly few) once put it like this (paraphrasing): Before we look at treatment for depression, we have to make sure the patient isn’t just surrounded by assholes.
But it’s a real problem. CBT is touted by a lot of “weighty” authorities as a valid gold standard treatment for a wide range of MH symptoms, and is claimed to be effective regardless of causes. And it’s my opinion that there is a lot of reasonably scientifically rigorous research backing that claim up. But, it’s not all rainbows, and it’s not working for lots of people. For one, a lot of folks claiming to do CBT are really not. Actual CBT involves a lot of homework, and a lot of recipients don’t have home support and don’t do the homework. This is extra true for children and adolescents living in dysfunctional homes. But more than just patient effort, the research marking CBT as so favorable is mostly based on subjects who are only mild to moderately distressed.* The end result is everyone involved in the “evidence based” healthcare chain is signing sufferers up for CBT when that might not be the best approach. There are lots of other criticisms too. If a practitioner is not well-trained and dedicated, the practice can be very invalidating. It seeks to make the sufferer’s more cognitive process more ‘rational,’ but when that person’s experiences are really, objectively bad, it’s very rational to conclude the world is hostile and unsafe. The tool itself is prepared for this, but it takes a really effective therapist to pull off. Also, it’s not enough by itself, grieving and other healing is also required for success.
The same thing happens in 12 step groups. AA/NA is resoundingly helpful-for a certain set of alcoholics/addicts. Those who don’t make it are often exhorted to become more honest, more open-minded, or more willing.*** My observation, though, is that most of the ones that make it come from intact families with resources. This is not universally true, it’s important for me to point out that there are enough examples of success among folks with no such background to say that there is something valuable in that approach that transcends socio-economics. There are also plenty from well-resourced families who don’t make it, but many of those families are highly dysfunctional. Of this last group, folks from dysfunctional families, some of us find success in other groups. This is because AA/NA are designed for sociopaths, ACA**** is designed for the product of sociopathic parents (who are filled with shame).
I don’t know what the solution is. A lot of malaise, addiction, “maladaptive” behaviors are, I think, born in a dysfunctional society, and so long as that society remains dysfunctional, no individual focused therapy solution will create a permanent fix. I think right here and now, too, we are at one of humanity’s “high tides” of self-destruction, a result primarily of runaway capitalism (is there any other kind?). We also just came through a really nasty global trauma, everyone is feeling it some kinda way.
Thanks for attending my TEDz talk.
*Of course, when talking about something as complex as a human life, there may no way to determine how similar is enough to make valid comparisons
**Also, let’s not talk about the various biases and implementation problems with what those studies refer to as ‘validated’ assessments used for measuring level of distress
***I am, technically, an NA success story
****Adult Children Anonymous, aka Adult Children of Alcoholics and Dysfunctional Families, more info at adultchildren.org.
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Survival is insufficient
22 votes -
Researchers at Lund University in Sweden have successfully implanted seven million lab-grown brain cells into a patient to treat Parkinson's disease
23 votes -
Finland used to have one of the highest suicide rates in the world – how the country halved it and saved countless lives
28 votes -
How US insurance companies fill their networks with ‘ghost’ therapists
29 votes -
Gene therapy allows an 11-year-old boy to hear for the first time
30 votes -
US FDA approves cure for sickle cell disease, the first treatment to use gene-editing tool CRISPR
49 votes -
Improving mental health by training the suppression of unwanted thoughts
14 votes -
There's hope for the US opioid crisis — but politics stands in the way
8 votes -
It's very weird to have a skull full of poison
42 votes -
Why therapy is broken
26 votes -
America’s therapy boom
29 votes -
This is why it’s so hard to find mental health counseling in the USA right now
56 votes -
How a dose of MDMA transformed a white supremacist
27 votes -
UK girl with deadly inherited condition is cured with gene therapy on NHS
9 votes -
Kiwixotherapy: A weird but working therapy for introverts suffering from sleeplessness
4 votes -
FDA approves most expensive drug ever, a $3.5 million-per-dose gene therapy for hemophilia B
6 votes -
How to take things less personally and avoid mind reading
7 votes -
Five ways to help someone with depression
7 votes -
How testosterone therapy is transforming aging
5 votes -
Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears
10 votes -
How the pandemic forced mental health care to change for the better
6 votes -
The new theatrics of remote therapy. How does treatment change when your patients are on a screen?
3 votes -
Biohackers are pirating a cheap version of a million-dollar gene therapy
7 votes -
I can't stop ghosting my therapists
12 votes -
Not just for soldiers: Civilians with PTSD struggle to find effective therapy
8 votes -
In the land of hope and grief: An art therapy project in an Alaska Native village helps teens talk about suicide in their community
4 votes -
Psychedelic psilocybin therapy for depression granted breakthrough therapy status by FDA
11 votes -
MDMA-assisted psychotherapy shows promise for reducing social anxiety in autistic adults
11 votes -
Why are we living in an age of anger – is it because of the fifty-year rage cycle?
8 votes