36 votes

This is a teenager

13 comments

  1. [4]
    Protected
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    This has also been said on hackernews, but there are some issues with the visualizations, so exercise caution: First, the width of the three "bars" isn't the same, which can be misleading when...

    This has also been said on hackernews, but there are some issues with the visualizations, so exercise caution: First, the width of the three "bars" isn't the same, which can be misleading when comparing relative criteria; second, the arrow labels on the bars seem to be flipped in several visualizations (at time of writing), so always double check the color categories!

    17 votes
    1. streblo
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      Yea, I'm not sure why they didn't use the same length. But each person column appears to be the same size, so I think it's still fairly intuitive to ascertain the relative size of each cohort. I...

      Yea, I'm not sure why they didn't use the same length. But each person column appears to be the same size, so I think it's still fairly intuitive to ascertain the relative size of each cohort. I don't think there's any sleight of hand going on or anything.

      7 votes
    2. [2]
      bl4kers
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      I found myself more confused the more I looked at them

      I found myself more confused the more I looked at them

      7 votes
      1. RheingoldRiver
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        Same, this is one of the worst data visualizations I've ever seen. Nothing about it makes any sense, and the animations are infuriating.

        Same, this is one of the worst data visualizations I've ever seen. Nothing about it makes any sense, and the animations are infuriating.

        8 votes
  2. [3]
    vord
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    This is almost precisely my cohort. It roughly seems in line with my ancedotal experience with my peers. Lot of college-educated people who spent the first several years of their carreer working...

    This is almost precisely my cohort. It roughly seems in line with my ancedotal experience with my peers.

    Lot of college-educated people who spent the first several years of their carreer working near-minimum-wage retail because of 2008.

    The visualizations were sadly a bit of a mess and buggy on mobile Firefox, but its nice that the study is yeilding useful data.

    10 votes
    1. [2]
      kingofsnake
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      Mine worked well on Firefox - I wonder what the difference was. Funny, it's almost entirely my cohort as well. Most of my good pals didn't go to second Ed and as far as I can figure, are not...

      Mine worked well on Firefox - I wonder what the difference was.

      Funny, it's almost entirely my cohort as well. Most of my good pals didn't go to second Ed and as far as I can figure, are not satisfied installing stereos and working the Lowe's nightshift. What's super sad to me about this though, is that despite my efforts to reach out and maintain relationships, they've been the ones to pull away.

      It's a damn shame, but negative thinking, self doubt and depression (in a few cases I'm linked to) are self fulfilling prophecies for these guys, and looking at each of the major crossroads I observed in their lives, it was these things that crippled them.

      Public school in Canada doesn't come with the same stigma as it does in the states though (especially in the glorious 90s) and all things being equal, I'm not entirely sure how I - a kid raised by single parent, on welfare for part of it, but with a supportive friend network - managed to come out ahead of a bunch of dudes with stable, well earning nuclear families.

      7 votes
      1. teaearlgraycold
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        My parents made sure to find a good school district for me. So the public school I attended was actually pretty good. Occasionally I'd hear from Quaker kids I knew about the stuff they'd do at...

        Public school in Canada doesn't come with the same stigma as it does in the states though

        My parents made sure to find a good school district for me. So the public school I attended was actually pretty good. Occasionally I'd hear from Quaker kids I knew about the stuff they'd do at their private Friends' schools. It was clear they had some nice bells and whistles and their teachers were a bit better. But they went there mostly because the public schools in Philadelphia are notoriously bad. The city generally isn't too wealthy and the few people that do have money will exclusively send their kids to private schools.

        In the suburbs around Philly there are plenty of good public school districts. Nothing super fancy but I had it pretty good.

        3 votes
  3. streblo
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    Pretty neat visualization of the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth and how adversity in childhood and young adults translates into outcomes as adults.

    Pretty neat visualization of the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth and how adversity in childhood and young adults translates into outcomes as adults.

    7 votes
  4. [5]
    Noox
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    Whilst this is a pretty neat concept and interesting data (though I did see a lot lotttt of data points missing when randomly selecting "kids"), this was very uncomfortable to physically read on...

    Whilst this is a pretty neat concept and interesting data (though I did see a lot lotttt of data points missing when randomly selecting "kids"), this was very uncomfortable to physically read on my phone :/ i would either scroll too far and miss text or the animation would lag the crap out of my phone (I've got a Samsung A52s and I have never had a lag problem before so I'm tempted to say this is not on my phone).

    Great taste and great attempt, didn't fully land the execution though.

    6 votes
    1. [4]
      first-must-burn
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      Agree on the visualization. Also, the running kids animation, while eye catching, makes it hard to see how individuals are progressing through different stages year by year. I think it would be...

      Agree on the visualization. Also, the running kids animation, while eye catching, makes it hard to see how individuals are progressing through different stages year by year. I think it would be much more interesting to visualize the dataset as a Sankey diagram. It looks like it is publicly available, so maybe I will take a look at it in my alleged spare time.

      7 votes
      1. [3]
        Noox
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        I was thinking about trying my hand at it as well. Might make a fun data visualisation Tildes contest :p

        I was thinking about trying my hand at it as well. Might make a fun data visualisation Tildes contest :p

        2 votes
        1. [2]
          first-must-burn
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          I'm no expert. I bet some of you would be a Tufte act to follow.

          I'm no expert. I bet some of you would be a Tufte act to follow.

          1 vote
          1. Noox
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            Pfff, now you're just Fischering for attention

            Pfff, now you're just Fischering for attention

            1 vote