‘We are Q’: A deranged conspiracy cult leaps from the Internet to the crowd at Trump’s ‘MAGA’ tour
I have been following this conspiracy theory for a long time now after it blossomed from the Pizzagate movement.
I really believe that one of these Q followers will be involved in a mass shooting sometime by the end of this year. These folks believe that we are in the beginning of a literal Revolution.
If you are interested, here is just one example from the last 24 hours of how they are reacting to "Q Drop 1776" which is a faked photo of Donald Trump's signature.
So in browsing that sub and specifically that post I'm a bit confused. They feel that the POTUS is encouraging this "revolution" and that a revolution is necessary because of injustice and oppresion but when they think the guy who is literally the leader of the nation is supporting them, who do they think is doing the oppressing???
Mainstream-media (which excludes Fox for some reason), the "Deep State" (which is woefully incompetent if it exists), and Globalists (euphemism for Jews).
I can't believe I let this slip... my dad uses this term.
I told him about the stuff with the NRA and sent him articles and the DOJ files. He eventually said we have to be careful from false flag attacks from statists and globalists. I let it go but I had forgotten that globalist = Jew. Jesus, that's terrifying.
I dont think everybody uses the term interchabgeably, but anti-semites do. And they will invariably make the case that Jewish people are the real driving force behind the globalists, which may or may not convince people like your dad.
I should try to see if he uses it that way.
To me globalists would mean ideological supporters of free trade & movement of people. Not surprised to hear it's a dog whistle for anti-semites too though, all the shit with the brackets was weird as all shit.
The media for not telling "the truth", the Democrats who are running a shadow government, the "deep state" intelligence community who are undermining Trump, and behind all of them they think there is a vast conspiracy of "Globalists" aka "DA JEWS" who are pulling the strings to bring about the end of the world, or at least western civilization.
The "deep state", a collusion of intelligence assets, big personalities, CEOs, and media moguls. They try to avoid the classical antisemitism of most conspiracy theories but still point to a lot of Jewish people (yeah I see the other responses also agree with me on the antisemitism, I didn't know enough about it to make the claim haha but I feel they tend to point to Jewish people a lot). For example they claim that Bourdain's and Slate's suicides were curated by the deep state because they were going to talk about the child slavery that is behind the detention centers (that Trump has exposed by making them more visible, yeah, the logic doesn't always work haha).
Who knows, there may be something true among all the misinformation (after all Guantanamo Bay was a conspiracy theory until it wasn't, or the detention centers). But I think it mostly is a bunch of manipulators.
Here's what I don't get. These people are convinced that there's a secret shadow government opposing Trump. Why are absolutely none of those people republicans? This shadow government has somehow managed to be comprised entirely of liberals, despite the rest of the government almost always having around a 50/50 split. Why would they all just happen to be liberal?
I think a big reason that a lot of these folks believe in Qanon is because they are actually disappointed with what Trump has accomplished in office.
Hillary wasn't locked up. The wall hasn't been built. The only thing they have done is passed a huge tax cut for the ultra-wealthy.
But this doesn't jive with their believe that Trump is their savior and can do no wrong. It can't be that he is an incompetent oaf. So the obvious answer to them is that he is being prevented from making America great again by liberals and globalists, and the "deep state".
That's exactly what it is. This is a really good explanation of it: https://kropotkhristian.tumblr.com/post/176494107321/why-q-anon-proves-that-trump-supporters-are
This reminds me of a similar theory my History teacher once laid out on why utopian revolutions like the French or the Communist revolution turn into regimes of terror and why the people let it happen at first: the belief in the saving grace of the central ideology, often manifest in a charismatic leader, is so strong that they can't accept it as flawed. Thus problems and setbacks are blamed on "somebody undermining us" and witch hunts and purges start, thinking a "cleansing" of subversive "enemy" actors will result in the utopian ideal coming to fruition. But because the issue is with the practical application itself this never happens and instead the system slides further and further into barbarism and paranoia.
Many participants on r/great awakening believe the deep state counts among its population the 'bad' republicans, like McConnell and various bushes. Makes Bolton hard to explain, though.
Six weeks ago a Quack with firearms and an armored vehicle tried to do something at the Hoover Dam, and has made references to Great Awakening and all that nonsense. He is facing terrorism charges.
Yeah, that was part of the whole altright / Qanon "release the memo" nonsense
The people pushing this are all engaging in stochastic terrorism.
I like this expression of stochastic terrorism, I will use it.
I listened to an interview of that youtuber that talks about Q anon, it's really scary to be honest, I think they are very good at manipulating people. The media making these accusations and calling the followers names instead of advocating for a more transparent system doesn't help either, imho.
Okay, I wasn't expecting this. Does this mean they support the investigation and don't think it's a 'witch hunt'?
They think that the Mueller investigation is actually working in secret to take down Hillary, Obama, all the other top Democrats, and the entire "deep state" intelligence community.
They believe there are thousands of sealed indictments that all actually list these folks that will be revealed any day now and will result in the arrest and execution of most of them.
Q has predicted several dates that all of this will be revealed the broader public, but somehow all of them keep passing without anything actually happening. July 4th was the latest prediction.
Obviously. I feel like these people watch too many movies. Because obviously those huge, patriotic, 'Murica fuck yeah events always happen on important anniversaries in real life too.
Yeah, the theory is that he is there to expose all the deep state when he reveals there was no serious Russian interference.
I remember in 2008 I bought a house in the county from a lady. She had a government job working on an air force base and looked like a normal middle-aged lady. But, out of the blue, she insisted that if Obama won then the blacks from the nearby city (10 miles away maybe) would rise up and invade the countryside, raping and murdering all whites. She legitimately held this view. I assume she didn't vote for Obama.
I think a lot of what we're seeing in politics in the last election cycle is that people like this simply found the internet.
People like this found each other on the internet. And through the filter bubble phenomenon their somewhat unhinged views are continously being reinforced and amped up.
There are tons of selfies and pictures of Qanon folks showing off their gear on /r/greatawakening (mostly middle-aged white people). You can easily search Twitter and see hundreds of pictures of Qanon folks at Trump rallies and other events.
Hell, a follower of this stuff shut down the Hoover Dam earlier this summer by blocking traffic with an armored vehicle.
It is absolutely breaking through into the real world and it is scary that these people honestly believe this stuff.
The Guardian did a reasonably good explainer a couple of days ago too
I also really liked Will Sommer's piece on Qanon for the Daily Beast
I follow him on Twitter and he is really active in tracking the movement online.
I'm highly susceptible to conspiracy thinking, but the q thing is obviously something twisted. It would be funny if it weren't so prevalent and its participants so fervent.
Trump, while posing as a flailing president in public, is secretly orchestrating a crackdown on the entire cabal... a messianic revolutionary who conceals his strategic genius under layers of crass egotism and ineptitude.
I was so confused for a second, I was assuming it was some sort of Star Trek reference.
It will be interesting to see where this goes.