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Georgia Guidestones destroyed by explosive device

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  1. [3]
    RNG
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    In the '00s, people were regularly admonished for failing to properly call out "Radical Islamic Terrorism" and the alleged failures of the Islamic community to clean house. Since 2010 however,...

    In the '00s, people were regularly admonished for failing to properly call out "Radical Islamic Terrorism" and the alleged failures of the Islamic community to clean house. Since 2010 however, rightist terrorists have killed more US civilians than Islamic terrorists have. At what point do we start publicly condemning "Radical Christian Terrorism?" Is that a stretch? I mean we're at the point where they are blowing up stuff they don't like...

    On a slightly less related note, one of the main concerns about Muslims in the US during the '00s was the concern they'd "implement Sharia law." It seems that in the past decade the push has been primarily to implement a Christian theocracy.

    I know that none of the words I'm typing are helping, because there's nothing I can do to help. I get to watch this happen the same as everyone else. I voted, and that so far has accomplished nothing in defending women's rights from Christians. I'm not going to start the uprising that ushers in utopia, or start another "peaceful" protest that accomplishes nothing but arrests and beatings; I get to just watch it all burn down from the sidelines with the rest of you.

    17 votes
    1. [2]
      Grzmot
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      You see the Islamists are worse cause their foreign. /s On a more serious note, I've often felt like centrist politicians are more afraid of calling out the ringwing bloc because a) it's closer in...

      In the '00s, people were regularly admonished for failing to properly call out "Radical Islamic Terrorism" and the alleged failures of the Islamic community to clean house. Since 2010 however, rightist terrorists have killed more US civilians than Islamic terrorists have. At what point do we start publicly condemning "Radical Christian Terrorism?" Is that a stretch? I mean we're at the point where they are blowing up stuff they don't like...

      You see the Islamists are worse cause their foreign.

      /s

      On a more serious note, I've often felt like centrist politicians are more afraid of calling out the ringwing bloc because a) it's closer in case they become a target b) more prone to violence and c) less fault-accepting than the leftwing bloc, we can see regularily on the web that that side just loves to tear itself apart in its pursuit of moral perfectionism.

      4 votes
      1. TheRtRevKaiser
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        I once heard somebody describe the American left as a "circular firing squad" and I don't think I've ever heard a more apt description. It's mostly terminally online folks, but it can extend to...

        I once heard somebody describe the American left as a "circular firing squad" and I don't think I've ever heard a more apt description. It's mostly terminally online folks, but it can extend to people that are otherwise pretty level-headed at times. There's a ton of energy wasted fighting each other to make sure everybody is being progressive correctly instead of fighting people that want to take us back to the fucking bronze age. It doesn't help that conservative groups and foreign governments tend to try and amplify that tendency to fragment progressive voters, which I think fucking worked like a charm in 2016.

        5 votes
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    ras
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    A little local flavor from here in Georgia.

    A little local flavor from here in Georgia.

    3 votes
    1. TheRtRevKaiser
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      I grew up in SW (ish) GA and had heard of the Guidestones but never was in the area to see them. Another victim of right-wing conspiracy nuts. At least nobody got hurt...

      I grew up in SW (ish) GA and had heard of the Guidestones but never was in the area to see them. Another victim of right-wing conspiracy nuts. At least nobody got hurt...

      2 votes
  3. autumn
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    I went and saw these back when I lived in Athens, GA (not a UGA student since that question is asked a lot). The stones were really cool and kind of awesome to see slabs that big up close.

    I went and saw these back when I lived in Athens, GA (not a UGA student since that question is asked a lot). The stones were really cool and kind of awesome to see slabs that big up close.

    3 votes
  4. Amarok
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    I'd heard of these years ago, and it instantly became one of my all time favorite monuments despite never having visited. I hope they are restored. We might want to leave a few more of those...

    I'd heard of these years ago, and it instantly became one of my all time favorite monuments despite never having visited. I hope they are restored. We might want to leave a few more of those scattered around the world sometime, just in case...

    3 votes
  5. nukeman
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    Man, I live less than two hours from there. I still hadn’t managed to get to them before they got blown up.

    Man, I live less than two hours from there. I still hadn’t managed to get to them before they got blown up.

    2 votes
  6. FishFingus
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    Oh, I heard of these. There were a bunch of pics of them vandalised by conspiracy trogs with things like 'Fuck the NWO' on them.

    Oh, I heard of these. There were a bunch of pics of them vandalised by conspiracy trogs with things like 'Fuck the NWO' on them.

    1 vote
  7. NoblePath
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    I’m taking bets on how far into the new dark ages before cell service dies.

    I’m taking bets on how far into the new dark ages before cell service dies.

    1 vote
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    EgoEimi
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    Never heard of these before. But I can't believe that they're somehow controversial. I just read about its inscribed commandments. They all sound lovely to me, and I can't imagine how anyone can...

    Never heard of these before. But I can't believe that they're somehow controversial.

    I just read about its inscribed commandments. They all sound lovely to me, and I can't imagine how anyone can find them objectionable.

    1 vote
    1. stu2b50
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      The thing is, there's layers to it. On one hand, just because it looks kinda alien-ish for some reason the QAnon adjacent people believe that it's related to the deep state or whatever. On the...

      The thing is, there's layers to it. On one hand, just because it looks kinda alien-ish for some reason the QAnon adjacent people believe that it's related to the deep state or whatever.

      On the other hand, the creator of the guidestones was likely a Klans member, certainly supported Klans leaders, and was probably a white supremacist (which certainly makes some of the commandments, like

      Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.

      feel a little ickier)

      Herbert Hinie Kersten was actually his real name, he was a doctor from Fort Dodge, Iowa. Herbert Hinie Kersten showed great support for David Duke who is a former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, in a letter he wrote to the South Flordia Sun Sentinel. William Sayles Doan, a creator and Fort Dodge antiquarian, asserts on camera that Kersten was a candid supremacist who voiced plans to make an estimation to authoritatively demonstrate that whites – and specifically Northern Europeans – were the world's unrivaled race.

      Which certainly adds some irony to the whole thing, since the new age white supremist think his work is from the deep state, or aliens, or bill gates, and try to destroy it.

      7 votes
    2. Macil
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      The first three items say to make the population much smaller than it is today, be careful to reproduce right (... is this a racial thing?), and impose a single language (I guess I think there are...

      The first three items say to make the population much smaller than it is today, be careful to reproduce right (... is this a racial thing?), and impose a single language (I guess I think there are possible paths and benefits to this done right but idk it's not hard to get colonialist vibes from this one; there's a lot of ways to do this wrongly). Then the rest are pretty uninspired nothings that are essentially "be fair". At its worst it sounds eugenics-y and at its best it's utterly generic platitudes. The coolest thing the guidestones have going for them is just the medium itself.

      Also one of them mentions a "world court", which sets off conspiracy-theorists who think it has to do with the "New World Order". I'm guessing that one is why someone bombed the stones.

      5 votes
    3. NoblePath
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      Despite the zillions of people who do, I can’t understand how anyone finds homosexuality objectionable. And yet, here we are.

      Despite the zillions of people who do, I can’t understand how anyone finds homosexuality objectionable. And yet, here we are.

      1 vote
  9. NoblePath
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    I’ve been there. They’re kinda cool, and the story is neat-o. They were a testament to hope and love. The pain whover did this is feeling must be unreal.

    I’ve been there. They’re kinda cool, and the story is neat-o. They were a testament to hope and love. The pain whover did this is feeling must be unreal.