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Pakistan shoots down two Indian fighter jets: Military

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    PaKYr
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    Sequence of events so far: 2/14/19: Pulwama Terrorist Attacks - A terrorist group based in Pakistan attacks an (edit: Indian) police force caravan, killing 41 2/25/19: India bombs terrorist...

    Sequence of events so far:
    2/14/19: Pulwama Terrorist Attacks - A terrorist group based in Pakistan attacks an (edit: Indian) police force caravan, killing 41
    2/25/19: India bombs terrorist training camp in Pakistan near the Line of Control (de facto border)
    2/26/19: 2 Indian Air Force fighter jets (India claims just one so far) shot down by Pakistan over Pakistani Kashmir, pilots apparently taken into custody; India claims Pakistani jet shot down, also over Pakistani Kashmir

    This represents a worryingly quick chain of escalation. Hopefully, cooler heads prevail. As both nations are nuclear powers, a war between them has the potential to cause immense destruction in both countries, as well as to the world as a whole.

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    1. Guyon
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      In case anyone else is wondering, Pulwama is a district in India, but in a location (Jammu and Kashmir) whose land rights are disuputed amongst Pakistan, India, and China.

      In case anyone else is wondering, Pulwama is a district in India, but in a location (Jammu and Kashmir) whose land rights are disuputed amongst Pakistan, India, and China.

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  2. Deva
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    According to today's press conference by Indian MEA at 3:15 pm IS, one pilot is "missing in action". IAF hasn't admitted that the pilot is in Pakistan army's custody.

    According to today's press conference by Indian MEA at 3:15 pm IS, one pilot is "missing in action". IAF hasn't admitted that the pilot is in Pakistan army's custody.

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  3. Papaya
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    I'd like to know to what extent Pakistan knew about this terrorist group and what they were doing to eradicate it. How come India had to send their jets over there instead of Pakistan taking care...

    I'd like to know to what extent Pakistan knew about this terrorist group and what they were doing to eradicate it. How come India had to send their jets over there instead of Pakistan taking care of it ?
    Did India ask Pakistan to do so and they refused, or did they just decide to cross the border and attack the camp without asking for permission ?

    4 votes
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    Duke
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    Was looking for a civil conversation about this here as Reddit news subs are mostly Indians running their own narrative but theres no conversation about it here at all lol For people who dont know...

    Was looking for a civil conversation about this here as Reddit news subs are mostly Indians running their own narrative but theres no conversation about it here at all lol

    For people who dont know anything about it, visit /r/pakistan and then /r/india and see the stark change in opinion in what transpired, the truth lies somewhere in the middle of what both sides are propagating so you'll have to form your own opinion

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      cfabbro
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      The truth doesn't always lie somewhere in the middle but regardless of where the truth lies in this case, it's a pretty shitty and scary situation; Two nuclear powers with over a billion people...

      The truth doesn't always lie somewhere in the middle but regardless of where the truth lies in this case, it's a pretty shitty and scary situation; Two nuclear powers with over a billion people living in them are potentially on the brink of open conflict with one another. And in that situation, the less said by those who don't actually know what they're talking about the better, IMO.

      13 votes
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        1. NaraVara
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          The nationalist rhetoric between these countries has always been this insane. The saber rattling doesn’t seem that out of the ordinary to me.

          I wonder how many of the accounts pushing for escalation are bot accounts or actual nationalists.

          The nationalist rhetoric between these countries has always been this insane. The saber rattling doesn’t seem that out of the ordinary to me.

          9 votes
        2. TheJorro
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          It's not new. My parents' and my grandparents' generations have always had this exact same intensity of sentiment. They taught me a fun song they learned during the original wars between the two...

          The amount of bravado between the two countries right now is terrifying.

          It's not new. My parents' and my grandparents' generations have always had this exact same intensity of sentiment. They taught me a fun song they learned during the original wars between the two countries, called "Bomb the Pakistan".

          I don't think either of these countries should have been allowed to develop nuclear arms. Animosity between them is constant and unyielding, and conflict is inevitable. They are not nations who have ever had to note anything beyond their immediate surroundings, the notion of the influence on geopolitics when they conflict is entirely lost on them.

          8 votes
    2. Algernon_Asimov
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      If you want conversation about this, why don't you start some yourself? What do you want to talk about regarding this matter?

      If you want conversation about this, why don't you start some yourself? What do you want to talk about regarding this matter?

      2 votes
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        1. Kelsier
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          Only one pilot was captured (Abhinandan Varthaman), and he has been returned to India just a few hours ago.

          Only one pilot was captured (Abhinandan Varthaman), and he has been returned to India just a few hours ago.

          2 votes