I get it. I don't agree with it/much prefer Bernie, but I get it. Just get Biden up there, find out who is VP is (fingers crossed it's Warren at least), and let's move on with it.
I get it. I don't agree with it/much prefer Bernie, but I get it.
Just get Biden up there, find out who is VP is (fingers crossed it's Warren at least), and let's move on with it.
Former Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden during an appearance on CNN on Tuesday night.
"The math says Joe is our prohibitive nominee; we need to bring the party together," Yang said, as he publicly threw his support behind Biden.
Thanks for the source. He also stated that Biden needs to adopt Sanders his message.and not just go back to business as usual. It's a valid point if you want to get out the vote.
Thanks for the source.
He also stated that Biden needs to adopt Sanders his message.and not just go back to business as usual. It's a valid point if you want to get out the vote.
Basically he's endorsing ending the primary battle so the democratic party can come into the election with greater unity. Whether or not you agree, it is a pragmatic option and not that surprising...
Basically he's endorsing ending the primary battle so the democratic party can come into the election with greater unity.
Whether or not you agree, it is a pragmatic option and not that surprising from the guy with the math hat.
Bernie has no feasible path to the nomination. Continuing this fight by endorsing Bernie now will only serve to hurt the actual nominee this November. That is Yang's reasoning.
Bernie has no feasible path to the nomination. Continuing this fight by endorsing Bernie now will only serve to hurt the actual nominee this November. That is Yang's reasoning.
I expect there will be some fireworks at the convention, and Sanders will try to get more of his policy planks adopted by the DNC. That's really all he's got at this point.
I expect there will be some fireworks at the convention, and Sanders will try to get more of his policy planks adopted by the DNC. That's really all he's got at this point.
Like he did in 2016, which meant that the party didn't unite behind Clinton, which likely led to Trump's election. I'm not saying Trump's Sanders' fault alone, but in attempting to push Clinton to...
Like he did in 2016, which meant that the party didn't unite behind Clinton, which likely led to Trump's election.
I'm not saying Trump's Sanders' fault alone, but in attempting to push Clinton to the left, he clearly and unambiguously helped Trump, who ended up winning the election.
Sanders has a history going back decades of being unwilling or unable to compromise or play politics as a team sport. He will show that yet again this primary season it seems.
If the Democrats are to win, they need to be a team. The non-nominee between Sanders and Biden needs to be in a position to campaign for that candidate when they suspend their campaign if they're serious about how bad they say Trump is for the country.
I have a hard time believing that the attempt to push Clinton to the left is what scuttled her chance at the presidency. Clinton lost in large part because of the immense personal distaste many of...
I have a hard time believing that the attempt to push Clinton to the left is what scuttled her chance at the presidency. Clinton lost in large part because of the immense personal distaste many of the folks in this country have for her (deserved or not), and because she (and the electorate) did not take Donald Trump seriously at all. Folks were much more concerned with not electing the embodiment of The Establishment Democrat than they were concerned with the slightly more left-leaning platform of the DNC.
Sanders also worked his ass off stumping for Hillary once she was the nominee.
I don't disagree that Democrats need to be a team to win this election, though, and agree that if one of the two suspends before the convention then they should hustle to help the other.
Sanders has no feasible path to the nomination... unless this debate happens on Sunday and Biden essentially publicly cakes his pants. Given Biden can't seem to make it through a 7 minute speech...
Sanders has no feasible path to the nomination... unless this debate happens on Sunday and Biden essentially publicly cakes his pants. Given Biden can't seem to make it through a 7 minute speech without completely bungling it, it is possible he has a major brain fart in an hours worth of speaking at the debate. Barring something huge, though, it's essentially over.
Agreed, though I think a lot of those voting for him just haven't actually seen this recently. Although cable news used to feel comfortable talking about Biden's mental decline, they've been...
previous debates and Biden publically quarreling with voters hasn't sunk him
Agreed, though I think a lot of those voting for him just haven't actually seen this recently. Although cable news used to feel comfortable talking about Biden's mental decline, they've been aggressively sweeping it under the rug lately. The clip of Biden saying "you know the you know the thing" is pretty shocking to anyone who actually sees it. It's possible something similar happens in a long debate. Who knows. It is almost certainly the last shot, though.
I just can't swallow that pill. Do you think the debates next week could change enough people's minds? Biden still can't speak properly, still has a garbage voting record and still has no real...
I just can't swallow that pill.
Do you think the debates next week could change enough people's minds? Biden still can't speak properly, still has a garbage voting record and still has no real policy proposals unique to him.
All Sanders needs to do is backtrack on
1: The socialist label/Explain that, whatever he's doing, it ain't Soviet, but Scandinavian.
2: The Cuban literacy program and explain that the program did have some evidence of stuff like
'implanting a revolutionary consciousness on the youth'
and
'A traditional responsibility of women was made to fit the Cuban ideals of heroism and service through means of militarization. The volunteers of the campaign were treated much like soldiers, organized into the aforementioned brigades and were provided clothing resembling military fatigues regardless of their gender. From such a perspective the campaign is shrouded in hyper-masculinity, hiding the fact that women were a large driving force of the effort under the guise of "masculine ideals"
And so acknowledge that there likely was propaganda in the books they read and that no such thing would happen in the US.
3: Note that he and Hillary have many similarities, being established Washington politicians with something that looks too much like a scandal.
I will admit that for the progressive movement to happened the centrists would need to do what the centrist Republicans did and bow to Bernie. But I think if Bernie won the Midwestern swing...
Sanders is a great leader to forment the growing organization of the left within America but even if he had won in 2016, or 2020, its very unlikely he would have been able to pass literally any of his major legislation through the Republican biased Senate and the conservative biased Supreme Court. His primary loss will not change things.
I will admit that for the progressive movement to happened the centrists would need to do what the centrist Republicans did and bow to Bernie. But I think if Bernie won the Midwestern swing states, even if the centrists hated him we could have at the very least done changes like removing VoterID and considering an increase in number of house seats and personally I think if all students loans were abolished many young people would recognize the power of politics and participate in them.
So even if you can't bring yourself to vote for Biden
Oh, I didn't mean that, I would nearly certainly vote for Biden unless hillary or Bernie was president now. Given Trump's positive relations with Russia (and all the other stuff against him, especially the institutional damage and voter suppression), I would do it, mostly with the hope that Biden could make voting easy (Biden's base is old black people who remember civil rights so I know he would deliver that). (I say would because I'm a 14 year old Brazilian, I've said that enough times right?)
I meant that Biden has such unanimous public support when Sanders wants to address issues which are existential threats to young people like student debt which takes often decades to pay off and for everyone like free healthcare, which bankrupts hundreds of thousands of people every year and think to myself 'how isn't single payer and the erasure of college debt and tuition universally supported'? The supporters of these moderate candidates are mostly 45+ so many of them literally birthed these people who are in said debt and they don't find these debts placed on their children completely insane? I mean, I've heard of people who can dodge student debt and save up or maybe avoid college and not die in a McDonald's or have good insurance plans offered by their companies but the fact that these aren't human rights is baffling to me and the reason I presume these aren't obviously regarded as human rights is that these companies are now huge donors in politics and advertisers in news meaning the tv channels don't talk about it because it upsets the big 'people' who make them money at the top. (Here's a video of CNN mocking occupy wall Street just to prove that point.)
House Reps, Senators and State Legislators are, quite possibly, even more important than Bernie himself.
I will have to agree here. I've talked about this one before, and Bernie needs to emphasize these races in the next debate, his slogan is literally called not me, us. The whole point of the election for the Democrats is to seize the Senate and the presidency for a trifecta, abolish the filibuster to actually pass them, seize the state legislatures to avoid Republican gerrymandering (granted we don't just do it to suit us instead) and take back the courts.
Where's it going to be in another five years? That will be Sander's legacy and what he has accomplished is nothing short of remarkable.
Suppressed out of existence by VoterID and other Republican shenanigans. Granted Biden is also in our side here.
I edited the link to an article specifically about this, with more of his comments, and a confirmation/statement from one of his former campaign staff.
I edited the link to an article specifically about this, with more of his comments, and a confirmation/statement from one of his former campaign staff.
I get it. I don't agree with it/much prefer Bernie, but I get it.
Just get Biden up there, find out who is VP is (fingers crossed it's Warren at least), and let's move on with it.
From the article:
So he’s literally endorsing him because probability says he should? Not because he agrees with his politics or anything like that?
I think he's saying it's over, let's not drag it out. It's not a strong endorsement.
Yep. See for yourself how he put it on CNN.
Thanks for the source.
He also stated that Biden needs to adopt Sanders his message.and not just go back to business as usual. It's a valid point if you want to get out the vote.
Basically he's endorsing ending the primary battle so the democratic party can come into the election with greater unity.
Whether or not you agree, it is a pragmatic option and not that surprising from the guy with the math hat.
Bernie has no feasible path to the nomination. Continuing this fight by endorsing Bernie now will only serve to hurt the actual nominee this November. That is Yang's reasoning.
I expect there will be some fireworks at the convention, and Sanders will try to get more of his policy planks adopted by the DNC. That's really all he's got at this point.
Like he did in 2016, which meant that the party didn't unite behind Clinton, which likely led to Trump's election.
I'm not saying Trump's Sanders' fault alone, but in attempting to push Clinton to the left, he clearly and unambiguously helped Trump, who ended up winning the election.
Sanders has a history going back decades of being unwilling or unable to compromise or play politics as a team sport. He will show that yet again this primary season it seems.
If the Democrats are to win, they need to be a team. The non-nominee between Sanders and Biden needs to be in a position to campaign for that candidate when they suspend their campaign if they're serious about how bad they say Trump is for the country.
I have a hard time believing that the attempt to push Clinton to the left is what scuttled her chance at the presidency. Clinton lost in large part because of the immense personal distaste many of the folks in this country have for her (deserved or not), and because she (and the electorate) did not take Donald Trump seriously at all. Folks were much more concerned with not electing the embodiment of The Establishment Democrat than they were concerned with the slightly more left-leaning platform of the DNC.
Sanders also worked his ass off stumping for Hillary once she was the nominee.
I don't disagree that Democrats need to be a team to win this election, though, and agree that if one of the two suspends before the convention then they should hustle to help the other.
Sanders has no feasible path to the nomination... unless this debate happens on Sunday and Biden essentially publicly cakes his pants. Given Biden can't seem to make it through a 7 minute speech without completely bungling it, it is possible he has a major brain fart in an hours worth of speaking at the debate. Barring something huge, though, it's essentially over.
Agreed, though I think a lot of those voting for him just haven't actually seen this recently. Although cable news used to feel comfortable talking about Biden's mental decline, they've been aggressively sweeping it under the rug lately. The clip of Biden saying "you know the you know the thing" is pretty shocking to anyone who actually sees it. It's possible something similar happens in a long debate. Who knows. It is almost certainly the last shot, though.
I just can't swallow that pill.
Do you think the debates next week could change enough people's minds? Biden still can't speak properly, still has a garbage voting record and still has no real policy proposals unique to him.
All Sanders needs to do is backtrack on
1: The socialist label/Explain that, whatever he's doing, it ain't Soviet, but Scandinavian.
2: The Cuban literacy program and explain that the program did have some evidence of stuff like
and
And so acknowledge that there likely was propaganda in the books they read and that no such thing would happen in the US.
3: Note that he and Hillary have many similarities, being established Washington politicians with something that looks too much like a scandal.
I just can't take it.
I will admit that for the progressive movement to happened the centrists would need to do what the centrist Republicans did and bow to Bernie. But I think if Bernie won the Midwestern swing states, even if the centrists hated him we could have at the very least done changes like removing VoterID and considering an increase in number of house seats and personally I think if all students loans were abolished many young people would recognize the power of politics and participate in them.
Oh, I didn't mean that, I would nearly certainly vote for Biden unless hillary or Bernie was president now. Given Trump's positive relations with Russia (and all the other stuff against him, especially the institutional damage and voter suppression), I would do it, mostly with the hope that Biden could make voting easy (Biden's base is old black people who remember civil rights so I know he would deliver that). (I say would because I'm a 14 year old Brazilian, I've said that enough times right?)
I meant that Biden has such unanimous public support when Sanders wants to address issues which are existential threats to young people like student debt which takes often decades to pay off and for everyone like free healthcare, which bankrupts hundreds of thousands of people every year and think to myself 'how isn't single payer and the erasure of college debt and tuition universally supported'? The supporters of these moderate candidates are mostly 45+ so many of them literally birthed these people who are in said debt and they don't find these debts placed on their children completely insane? I mean, I've heard of people who can dodge student debt and save up or maybe avoid college and not die in a McDonald's or have good insurance plans offered by their companies but the fact that these aren't human rights is baffling to me and the reason I presume these aren't obviously regarded as human rights is that these companies are now huge donors in politics and advertisers in news meaning the tv channels don't talk about it because it upsets the big 'people' who make them money at the top. (Here's a video of CNN mocking occupy wall Street just to prove that point.)
I will have to agree here. I've talked about this one before, and Bernie needs to emphasize these races in the next debate, his slogan is literally called not me, us. The whole point of the election for the Democrats is to seize the Senate and the presidency for a trifecta, abolish the filibuster to actually pass them, seize the state legislatures to avoid Republican gerrymandering (granted we don't just do it to suit us instead) and take back the courts.
Suppressed out of existence by VoterID and other Republican shenanigans. Granted Biden is also in our side here.
I'm just as confused as you are. Very disappointed, tbh.
I edited the link to an article specifically about this, with more of his comments, and a confirmation/statement from one of his former campaign staff.