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Intelligent people are better judges of the intelligence of others

23 comments

  1. [5]
    DefinitelyNotAFae
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    Always the case

    Additionally, the majority of the participants in the study were university students, many of whom were psychology majors. Their familiarity with psychological concepts might have aided them in detecting intelligence cues in the videos. Given this, findings regarding the general population may differ.

    Always the case

    49 votes
    1. [4]
      Evie
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      Anytime you see a university study about psychology, you can make a reasonably safe bet that the sample group was made up of psychology and cognitive science students, because in those majors you...

      Anytime you see a university study about psychology, you can make a reasonably safe bet that the sample group was made up of psychology and cognitive science students, because in those majors you are often required or incentivised to participate in studies. IDK about the other sciences.

      24 votes
      1. snake_case
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        They should make them go to the nearest bar, pick up randoms, and reproduce it like that using shots as an incentive haha

        They should make them go to the nearest bar, pick up randoms, and reproduce it like that using shots as an incentive haha

        10 votes
      2. DefinitelyNotAFae
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        I'm someone with a psych degree. Participation was often "required" or the only extra credit we got. So yeah as I said, Always the case.

        I'm someone with a psych degree. Participation was often "required" or the only extra credit we got. So yeah as I said, Always the case.

        10 votes
      3. JCPhoenix
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        At my university, each Psych 100 undergrad had to do like 10 studies during the semester. Or less if some were lengthier, where participation in one study could be counted as 2 study credits...

        At my university, each Psych 100 undergrad had to do like 10 studies during the semester. Or less if some were lengthier, where participation in one study could be counted as 2 study credits instead of just one. They were fun and interesting. Though I never saw results of stuff (not that I went looking).

        Though I see how it'd be kinda WEIRD ;)

        6 votes
  2. [4]
    fxgn
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    Now prepare to hear this study constantly referenced by all the most annoying people you know

    Now prepare to hear this study constantly referenced by all the most annoying people you know

    56 votes
    1. [3]
      Narry
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      To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty… /s

      To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty… /s

      19 votes
      1. [2]
        fxgn
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        Of course. Obviously, I have a very high IQ, because I've read the list of logical fallacies on Wikipedia.

        Of course. Obviously, I have a very high IQ, because I've read the list of logical fallacies on Wikipedia.

        4 votes
        1. Narry
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          We live in a society, for sure.

          We live in a society, for sure.

          3 votes
  3. [3]
    stu2b50
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    This sounds like the setup for a riddle. There are 100 people in a room. You know that intelligent people are better judges of the intelligence of other people. You do not know by how much they...

    This sounds like the setup for a riddle.

    There are 100 people in a room. You know that intelligent people are better judges of the intelligence of other people. You do not know by how much they are better judges, just that intelligence is monotonically correlated with better intelligence judgement. You do not know how intelligent anyone in the room is. You are allowed to ask a person to judge another person’s intelligence but cannot ask them general questions.

    What is a way you can create an ordered list of the people in the room by intelligence?

    17 votes
    1. [2]
      unkz
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      It’s like a textbook machine learning problem. Form them into an ensemble of weak classifiers. A optimization in this case might be using something like Cohen’s Kappa statistic to progressively...

      It’s like a textbook machine learning problem. Form them into an ensemble of weak classifiers. A optimization in this case might be using something like Cohen’s Kappa statistic to progressively evict people with weak inter-judge agreement from the ensemble.

      Setting aside the question of whether intelligence can be unambiguously ordered of course.

      5 votes
      1. Banazir
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        Or just a weird extra credit question in a DSA exam. Granted, that would probably provide some sort of comparison for the students to use, so I guess then it just boils down to sorting algorithms,...

        Or just a weird extra credit question in a DSA exam. Granted, that would probably provide some sort of comparison for the students to use, so I guess then it just boils down to sorting algorithms, which is not the original question.

        For what it's worth, Stalin Sort makes this easy.

        3 votes
  4. [10]
    Narry
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    I have a fundamental mistrust of conversations around intelligence, because I personally believe that the whole concept is nebulous and perhaps even hokum. I believe that this stems from the fact...

    I have a fundamental mistrust of conversations around intelligence, because I personally believe that the whole concept is nebulous and perhaps even hokum. I believe that this stems from the fact that intelligence testing has been used as a way to deny people access to necessary things like voting, good medical care, and even opportunities for educational and societal advancement. I believe that the definition of intelligence is inherently biased by the individual defining it. I do not believe that there can be an empirical definition.

    The concept of dividing people based along their cognitive capabilities has always rankled with me, in any case, but I’m not very bright if you ask the right people

    17 votes
    1. [9]
      fnulare
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      Thanks! New word unlocked :) Accidently discovered a Tildes feature too; highlighted text in the parent gets quoted automagically when replying

      rankled

      Thanks! New word unlocked :)

      Accidently discovered a Tildes feature too; highlighted text in the parent gets quoted automagically when replying

      8 votes
      1. [5]
        Narry
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        As a life-long Words Nerd, you're welcome. I'm always happy to show people the depths of the English language. It's quite lovely, when you look at it academically.

        As a life-long Words Nerd, you're welcome. I'm always happy to show people the depths of the English language. It's quite lovely, when you look at it academically.

        5 votes
        1. [4]
          rich_27
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          I'd say English is full of character, charming, and esoteric, but lovely is a stretch for me! It's a lumbering mess of a language rife with inconsistencies in declension and pronunciation. To me,...

          I'd say English is full of character, charming, and esoteric, but lovely is a stretch for me! It's a lumbering mess of a language rife with inconsistencies in declension and pronunciation. To me, loveliness requires a beauty, an aesthetically pleasing aspect that English lacks. To me, Spanish is a lovely language; I think there is a beauty to how pronunciation maps 1:1 to spelling and is consistent. Perhaps that is just personal preference for ordered, sensical things, I don't know!

          3 votes
          1. [2]
            Narry
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            I grew up speaking English and did not see the beauty in it. I studied French, Japanese, and Spanish for many years and thought that those were much more beautiful languages and that those would...

            I grew up speaking English and did not see the beauty in it. I studied French, Japanese, and Spanish for many years and thought that those were much more beautiful languages and that those would be the only foreign languages I attempted to learn until I began to study Norwegian, Swedish, and German. They gave me an appreciation of the Germanic parts of English, and a lot of things started standing out to me about my own language, and those languages taught me the beauty of my own. I had to step away from English for close to 20 years, studying other languages but still using my own daily, before I learned to appreciate the beauty of how I move and think in this language, and the language itself.

            Studying all of those languages showed me where mine came from, and honestly for me English feels like the beauty of a home town I at first resented, but came to appreciate after many years traveling abroad. The other languages have their allure, but this is home.

            6 votes
            1. rich_27
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              That's lovely! Very interesting too, perhaps it's the Germanic parts that make English feel weird and misshapen to me; I've only ever studied romance languages, so I can see why English would feel...

              That's lovely! Very interesting too, perhaps it's the Germanic parts that make English feel weird and misshapen to me; I've only ever studied romance languages, so I can see why English would feel alien to me now!

              4 votes
          2. R3qn65
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            It’s our flaws that make us beautiful.

            It's a lumbering mess of a language rife with inconsistencies in declension and pronunciation.

            It’s our flaws that make us beautiful.

            4 votes
      2. PelagiusSeptim
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        Cool feature, just checked and it works in 3 Cheers as well!

        Cool feature, just checked and it works in 3 Cheers as well!

        4 votes
      3. derekiscool
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        This is an amazing feature that I also just learned! Thanks for sharing that tidbit!

        Accidently discovered a Tildes feature too; highlighted text in the parent gets quoted automagically when replying

        This is an amazing feature that I also just learned! Thanks for sharing that tidbit!

        3 votes
      4. mild_takes
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        It was a classic reddit feature. Still works on old.reddit.

        Accidently discovered a Tildes feature too

        It was a classic reddit feature. Still works on old.reddit.

        1 vote
  5. macleod
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    We know what we don't know?

    We know what we don't know?