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Weekly US politics news and updates thread - week of May 19

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  1. [2]
    krellor
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    Gift link: Divided Supreme Court Rejects Bid for Religious Charter School in Oklahoma I find the recusal interesting and wonder what the takeaway here is for groups that want to use government...

    Gift link:
    Divided Supreme Court Rejects Bid for Religious Charter School in Oklahoma

    In a 4-to-4 decision, the court upheld a ruling by the Oklahoma Supreme Court that blocked the school.

    A divided Supreme Court rejected a plan on Thursday to allow Oklahoma to use government money to run the nation’s first religious charter school, which would teach a curriculum infused by Catholic doctrine.

    The court split 4 to 4 over the Oklahoma plan, with Justice Amy Coney Barrett recusing herself from the case, and the decision provided no reasoning.

    I find the recusal interesting and wonder what the takeaway here is for groups that want to use government funds for religious schools. Will they take this as a signal not to try and escalate again for fear of getting a precedent against them, or that they should try again in a way that sidesteps the facts of the Oklahoma courts ruling?

    6 votes
    1. skybrian
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      From a different article: There's no telling how she would rule in a different case, but I expect someone will try again.

      From a different article:

      Barrett did not explain her recusal, but it probably stemmed from her close ties to Notre Dame Law School and its religious liberties legal clinic, which played a prominent role in representing St. Isidore.

      There's no telling how she would rule in a different case, but I expect someone will try again.

      3 votes
  2. [3]
    nic
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    As Trumps Monetize Presidency, Profits Outstrip Protests

    As Trumps Monetize Presidency, Profits Outstrip Protests

    When Hillary Clinton was first lady, a furor erupted over reports that she had once made $100,000 from a $1,000 investment in cattle futures. Even though it had happened a dozen years before her husband became president, it became a scandal that lasted weeks and forced the White House to initiate a review.

    Jeff Bezos agreed to finance a promotional film about Melania Trump that will reportedly put $28 million directly in her pocket — 280 times the Clinton lucre and in this case from a person with a vested interest in policies set by her husband’s government

    The Trump family and its business partners have collected $320 million in fees from a new cryptocurrency, brokered overseas real estate deals worth billions of dollars and are opening an exclusive club in Washington called the Executive Branch charging $500,000 apiece to join, all in the past few months alone.

    Just last week, Qatar handed over a luxury jet meant for Mr. Trump’s use not just in his official capacity but also for his presidential library after he leaves office. Experts have valued the plane, formally donated to the Air Force, at $200 million, more than all of the foreign gifts bestowed on all previous American presidents combined.

    And Mr. Trump hosted an exclusive dinner at his Virginia club for 220 investors in the $TRUMP cryptocurrency that he started days before taking office in January. Access was openly sold based on how much money they chipped in — not to a campaign account but to a business that benefits Mr. Trump personally.

    Trump Jr. has said that the family restrained itself during his father’s first term only to be criticized anyway, so it made no sense to hold back anymore. “They’re going to hit you no matter what,” he said last week at a business forum in Qatar. “So we’re just going to play the game.”

    6 votes
    1. [2]
      EgoEimi
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      Trump should be careful about upending norms too much, or he should really prioritize ending democracy, because if Democrats sweep the next elections, they could use his own...

      Trump should be careful about upending norms too much, or he should really prioritize ending democracy, because if Democrats sweep the next elections, they could use his own play-loose-with-the-rules playbook and nail him and his family to the wall without going through the courts like they did during Biden's presidency.

      In the words of The Expanse's Secretary Avasarala:

      Good. And please let him know that, if they can't, I will rain Hellfire down on them all; I will freeze their assets, cancel their contracts, cripple their business. And I have the power to do it, because I am the fucking hero who helped save Mother Earth from the cataclysm that Jules-Pierre Mao unleashed. Tell his children the government is more powerful than any corporation, and the only reason they think it feels the other way is because we poor public servants are always looking for some fat private sector's payoff down the road. And I'm not looking. And by the time they can pull the strings to force me out, it will be too late. Their family will be ruined. Their mother, their children, their children! All of them: pariahs! outlaws! Hunted and on the run for the rest of their days, until we find them, and nail each and every last one to the wall. Make sure you tell them that.

      3 votes
      1. daychilde
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        Dems would not be able to do this because we do not have media support. Have you noticed that even on "liberal" media it seems like Dems can't do anything or get their message out? How Dems are...

        Dems would not be able to do this because we do not have media support. Have you noticed that even on "liberal" media it seems like Dems can't do anything or get their message out? How Dems are held to different standards? Oligarchical control of the media, baby. One of the foundations in the fascist wall.

        5 votes
  3. [5]
    skybrian
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    Sources contradict Trump narrative about Qatar offering plane as ‘gift’ (CNN) … …

    Sources contradict Trump narrative about Qatar offering plane as ‘gift’ (CNN)

    After Trump took office in January, the Pentagon contacted Boeing and was told the company would not be able to deliver the new jets it was building to replace the aging presidential planes for another two years, the sources said.

    The Trump administration, however, wanted a replacement plane much faster, and the Air Force was exploring different options for doing so. At the same time, Trump tasked his Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff with finding a list of viable planes, a senior White House official told CNN.

    After the Pentagon’s initial engagement with the company, Boeing provided US defense officials with a list of other Boeing clients around the world with planes that could work in the meantime, three of the sources said.

    “And Qatar was one of the clients,” the second source familiar with the discussions said, adding the Pentagon “offered to buy the plane” and Qatar indicated it was willing to sell it.

    The Pentagon had launched the discussions with Qatar after learning that the White House supported the idea, the third source familiar said, and Witkoff helped facilitated the initial conversations, the White House official said.

    The third source recalled that the initial discussions were about leasing the plane, rather than buying it outright.

    The four people familiar with the discussions say the transaction is still being hashed out by lawyers on the two sides.

    “From that time [the initial US outreach to Qatar] until today, the matter is still with the legal teams,” said the second source familiar with the discussions, “and no decision has been made at all.”

    Beyond the ethical and legal questions, retrofitting and installing the required security and communications equipment on a second-hand plane from another government, even a friendly one, is a monumental task.

    It could take two years and cost multiples of what the plane itself is worth, current and former officials have told CNN. US spy and security agencies tasked with the overhaul would need to essentially strip the aircraft down to its frame and rebuild it with the necessary equipment.

    5 votes
    1. [4]
      hobbes64
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      This story follows the classic Trump pattern. Trump does something illegal and unethical Trump gives a reason for doing the thing, as if that changes anything The media argues about whether the...

      This story follows the classic Trump pattern.

      1. Trump does something illegal and unethical
      2. Trump gives a reason for doing the thing, as if that changes anything
      3. The media argues about whether the reason is valid

      Often two or three additional, conflicting reasons are given, and the media argues about those too. Then the illegal thing just happens because there is another scandal to use up the news cycle.

      He can’t legally accept the jet. It was never going to be used as Air Force One.

      It also doesn’t matter that the jet is old and has been on the market for a long time.

      It also doesn’t matter that it’s a weird and tacky jet.

      9 votes
      1. [3]
        skybrian
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        It's a weird boondoggle because Trump wasn't satisfied with Air Force One for no good reason. My guess is that eventually the plan will be abandoned as unworkable.

        It's a weird boondoggle because Trump wasn't satisfied with Air Force One for no good reason. My guess is that eventually the plan will be abandoned as unworkable.

        3 votes
        1. [2]
          hobbes64
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          It doesn’t have a gold toilet or something like that. It’s weird that he is always so worried about appearances, but he has very poor taste and is constantly doing embarrassing things that would...

          It doesn’t have a gold toilet or something like that. It’s weird that he is always so worried about appearances, but he has very poor taste and is constantly doing embarrassing things that would cause a typical person to hide in shame. And he sloppily puts on orange makeup. His support is endlessly confusing to me.

          I remember early in his first term that he called The White House a dump. It probably bothers him that it contains historical reminders about people who were better than him in every way.

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          1. tanglisha
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            He's probably one of those people that don't want a used house.

            He's probably one of those people that don't want a used house.

            2 votes
  4. [6]
    Raspcoffee
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    I figured I'd put it here since, well. It's difficult to seperate it from US politics: Small plane crashes into San Diego neighborhood, setting homes and vehicles on fire (APNews) Airplane...

    I figured I'd put it here since, well. It's difficult to seperate it from US politics: Small plane crashes into San Diego neighborhood, setting homes and vehicles on fire (APNews)

    Airplane crashing season is back, which, well, Musk cut out a lot of workers from the already stretched avian security. If anything, it's been sometime since once happened and it's impressive how much of the infrastructure keeps working despite it.

    It's absolutely horrible what's happening in that neighbourhood of San Diego... Families of the residents and those who were on the plane are, of course, having their life thorn apart while those responsible for it getting this bad are not seeing consequences any time soon.

    1 vote
    1. [4]
      skybrian
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      We will have to wait for the investigation's findings, but it seems doubtful that this has anything to do with air traffic control.

      We will have to wait for the investigation's findings, but it seems doubtful that this has anything to do with air traffic control.

      6 votes
      1. [2]
        Raspcoffee
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        Jesus, I think I'm really needing to take a break from being in the loop given how I'm jumping to conclusions. Thanks for correcting me here.
        • Exemplary

        Jesus, I think I'm really needing to take a break from being in the loop given how I'm jumping to conclusions.

        Thanks for correcting me here.

        6 votes
        1. daychilde
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          nonono, this is the internet. We double-down here. Get it right! :)

          nonono, this is the internet. We double-down here. Get it right! :)

          2 votes
    2. skybrian
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      Not air traffic control, but: Runway lights not working before fatal San Diego plane crash, NTSB says (Washington Post) ... ... ... Also, the crash happened at 4am, which I'm sure doesn't help....

      Not air traffic control, but:

      Runway lights not working before fatal San Diego plane crash, NTSB says (Washington Post)

      The pilot of a small private plane that crashed in a residential neighborhood of San Diego earlier this week faced fog as he attempted to land, while runway lights and a weather alert system at the airport were not working, investigators said.

      The crash in the early hours of Thursday killed all six people on board, including music executive Dave Shapiro, and set alight numerous homes and vehicles on the ground. More than 100 residents were evacuated after the crash, with San Diego Police Chief Scott Wahl describing the scene as “pretty horrific.”

      Dan Baker, a senior investigator with the National Transportation Safety Board, told a news conference Friday that the Cessna Citation plane hit “high-tension power lines” and landed in a residential area.

      ...

      No one on the ground was killed or seriously injured, according to Baker.

      ...

      The pilot did not report any issues to air traffic control or declare an emergency, Baker said, but he later added that the pilot had been warned about fog and was given weather information from Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, about four miles to the north. The pilot was attempting to land at Montgomery-Gibbs Executive Airport.

      According to air traffic audio reviewed by the Associated Press, the pilot acknowledged the landing conditions at the airport were not ideal and had considered diverting to another airport.

      ...

      The investigation will continue to focus on the pilot’s qualifications, training, flight history and other human factors, as well as the aircraft’s maintenance history and any environmental issues. A preliminary investigation will be released within several weeks, before a final report is issued within one to two years, Baker said.

      Also, the crash happened at 4am, which I'm sure doesn't help. There's a control tower, but it doesn't operate at night.

      Most crashes are due to a combination of factors; this is known as the Swiss cheese model. But ultimately it's the pilot's responsibility to decide if conditions are good enough to land at an uncontrolled airport. Perhaps there were other factors like the airplane's maintenance.

      5 votes