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Weekly US politics news and updates thread - week of November 17

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  1. [2]
    kfwyre
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    Over 30,000 Charlotte students absent from school in protest of ICE operation, reports say

    Over 30,000 Charlotte students absent from school in protest of ICE operation, reports say

    Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools said on Tuesday that the attendance data showed that 30,399 students were absent. Initially, it was reported that 20,935 students were absent.

    Officials said that the number is still unofficial and the data needs to be finalized by the state.

    Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools did not say if the absences were connected to the ongoing immigration operation in the city.

    With operation “Charlotte’s Web” entering its fourth day in the Charlotte Metro area, hundreds of students across four different schools staged walkouts to protest Border Patrol.

    11 votes
    1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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      Saw an older woman, whose lawn care guys were being harassed by ICE, come out of her house in her nightgown with a gun (her "safety weapon" she called it) to yell them off her lawn and get the...

      Saw an older woman, whose lawn care guys were being harassed by ICE, come out of her house in her nightgown with a gun (her "safety weapon" she called it) to yell them off her lawn and get the workers home safely. And a large group of people harassing them off a worksite.

      Charlotte is standing with her neighbors.

      13 votes
  2. [5]
    nic
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    Last week: US justice department sues California over new voting maps favouring Democrats Huh. I wonder if there are any other states that have made a "brazen" power grab using racially...

    Last week: US justice department sues California over new voting maps favouring Democrats

    Attorney General Pam Bondi accused California Governor Gavin Newsom of a "brazen" power grab using racially gerrymandered maps.

    Huh. I wonder if there are any other states that have made a "brazen" power grab using racially gerrymandered maps....?

    This week: US court blocks Texas from using newly redrawn voting maps

    "The public perception of this case is that it's about politics," US Judge Jeffrey Brown, a Trump appointee, wrote in the decision.

    "To be sure, politics played a role in drawing the 2025 Map. But it was much more than just politics. Substantial evidence shows that Texas racially gerrymandered the 2025 Map."

    What, oh what, is the Supreme Court to do? Blatantly reverse California as racist gerrymandering but remand Texas as ok because the Texas map is clearly only partisan not racist?

    7 votes
    1. [4]
      skybrian
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      Supreme Court temporarily restores Texas’ new congressional map ...

      Supreme Court temporarily restores Texas’ new congressional map

      Texas is back to using its 2025 congressional map, at least temporarily, after Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito granted the state’s request to pause a court ruling that would have required using the lines legislators drew in 2021.

      The high court has not yet decided what map Texas should use while the court battle over the legality of the map plays out over the coming weeks and months; Friday’s ruling is a short-term pause while they make that decision.

      ...

      Alito requested that the plaintiffs respond to the motion by the end of the day Monday. The Dec. 8 candidate filing deadline is fast approaching, which the state made clear to the justices in their petition.

      3 votes
      1. [3]
        nic
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        Republicans want the Supreme Court to save them from their own inept mistake Ahhhhh. The old, classic, slow walk/fast track. Slow walk the cases that lose you votes until you can say "it's too...

        Republicans want the Supreme Court to save them from their own inept mistake

        The idea that courts are forbidden from hearing challenges to a state’s election laws a year or more before an election takes place may seem so absurd that no judge would take this argument seriously. But this Supreme Court has given serious consideration to similar arguments in the past.

        Ahhhhh. The old, classic, slow walk/fast track.

        Slow walk the cases that lose you votes until you can say "it's too soon to the election" and fast track the cases that will win you votes. As seen in Bush v. Gore and USA v. Trump et al.

        3 votes
        1. [2]
          skybrian
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          You can read about this legal case in much more detail here: … … … … … This all seems extremely messy. It creates circumstances where the courts could easily find a reason to rule however they like.

          You can read about this legal case in much more detail here:

          There’s a backstory here that I’ll simplify mercilessly. It’s generally unconstitutional to draw district lines based on race. But, sometimes, at least for now, the Voting Rights Act requires that if a reasonably-configured majority-minority district can be drawn, then it must be drawn to avoid excessively diluting the votes of minority voters. (It’s more complicated than that, but close enough.) And drawing majority-minority districts requires being conscious of race in drawing district lines. So, summing things up, drawing district lines based on race is unconstitutional unless it’s mandatory to satisfy the Voting Rights Act.

          The gist of the DOJ letter is that, when Texas redistricted in 2020, it created coalition districts because it thought it had to under Campos. But Petteway overruled Campos. So, it turns out, Texas actually didn’t have to draw those districts. So that leaves Texas with a bunch of coalition districts that it didn’t have to draw. But wait. Texas considered race in drawing those districts. And when the Voting Rights Act doesn’t require consideration of race, the Constitution prohibits consideration of race. Ergo, the coalition districts are unconstitutional and Texas has to get rid of them.

          The DOJ Letter exhorts Texas to target coalition districts for destruction. It urges Texas to redraw district lines because of the racial composition of those districts. That’s unconstitutional! Indeed, the whole premise of the letter is that it’s unconstitutional to draw district lines based on race! Maybe if the districts were originally drawn for race-based reasons, it would make sense to redraw them. But if the districts weren’t originally drawn for race-based reasons, then the DOJ Letter would effectively be telling Texas: “Dear Texas, please redistrict in order to racially discriminate against Black and Hispanic voters.”

          Or, put more concisely, we are currently living in a timeline in which the DOJ announces that race-based redistricting is unconstitutional, and then demands that Texas do that very unconstitutional thing, in the span of a single two-page document.

          If we’re being honest, it’s virtually certain that Republican legislators were motivated by both race and partisanship: they thought both that (A) it would be great if Republicans kept winning and (B) if DOJ is telling us that the Constitution requires us to blast coalition districts into oblivion, then, well, who doesn’t love the Constitution? Or maybe some Republican legislators thought (A), some thought (B), some thought both (A) and (B), and some (most?) just figured they’d do what everyone else was doing. In this situation the Supreme Court has declared that courts must assess whether race was the “predominant factor motivating the legislature.” Good luck, courts!

          [T]he plaintiffs sued as quickly as they could—before the law was even signed, in fact. Also, in an effort to get a ruling as quickly as possible, they didn’t take discovery, which prevented the plaintiffs from learning the state’s redistricting criteria before the hearing and hence (according to the plaintiffs) is the reason they couldn’t introduce an alternative map.

          Second, the district court also hustled. It issued its 160-page opinion weeks after the hearing. And to further move things along, the majority released its opinion ahead of the dissent.

          Third, the district court, recognizing that there wasn’t sufficient time for the Texas legislature to enact a new map, chose the least intrusive possible remedy: a preliminary injunction that directed Texas to use the prior map for the 2026 election. This map was enacted by the Republican legislature and was already a Republican gerrymander (even under the old map, 66% of the seats went to Republicans, compared to 56% of Texans who voted for Donald Trump in 2024), so it’s not as though the court was foisting some Soros-drawn map on Texans. The dissent spends several pages arguing that the injunction exceeded the court’s equitable discretion, but I don’t understand the dissent’s argument. Having enjoined the old map, the court couldn’t just leave Texas map-less. In the absence of a legislative solution, an injunction returning Texas to the status quo ante was the reasonable thing to do.

          This all seems extremely messy. It creates circumstances where the courts could easily find a reason to rule however they like.

          3 votes
          1. skybrian
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            US supreme court approves redrawn Texas congressional maps …

            US supreme court approves redrawn Texas congressional maps

            In an unsigned order, the 6-3 conservative majority court granted a request by Texas to lift a lower court’s ruling that struck down the state’s new map in November. The supreme court’s three liberal justices dissented.

            Republicans in Texas, North Carolina, and Missouri have passed new maps that could add as many as seven GOP-friendly seats. Democrats, meanwhile, have countered that effort with new maps in California – where Republicans and the Trump justice department are suing to overturn the map – and in Virginia, which could offset those gains.

            In Utah, a judge handed Democrats an unexpected victory by choosing a House map for 2026 that gives the party one pickup opportunity.

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    Omnicrola
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    In a shift, Trump says House Republicans should vote to release Epstein files ... is the game here "pretend to be in favor of it for publicity sake while silently telling GoP allies to continue...

    In a shift, Trump says House Republicans should vote to release Epstein files

    President Trump now says that House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files "because we have nothing to hide."

    In a Truth Social post Sunday evening, he again called the issue a "Democrat Hoax" intended to "deflect from the Great Success of the Republican Party."

    ... is the game here "pretend to be in favor of it for publicity sake while silently telling GoP allies to continue blocking it in Congress" ?

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    1. TheRtRevKaiser
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      Cynically, I wonder if it's because they feel confident that they have put together a release of "the files" that wouldn't include any dirt on trump. I know there was reporting earlier in the year...

      Cynically, I wonder if it's because they feel confident that they have put together a release of "the files" that wouldn't include any dirt on trump. I know there was reporting earlier in the year that the DOJ had FBI agents working to redact any details about Trump from any files that they had.

      10 votes
    2. [5]
      Eji1700
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      This whole thing has been weird to watch because there’s no real rules and no real trust and yet people think this is somehow going to matter. Maybe it will, but I feel that all the smart money is...

      This whole thing has been weird to watch because there’s no real rules and no real trust and yet people think this is somehow going to matter.

      Maybe it will, but I feel that all the smart money is on more nothing. Be that because of the active investigation, straight up doctored or fake files, massive redactions, or even outright denial.

      7 votes
      1. [4]
        hobbes64
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        Since he got elected, I’ve made a prediction that trump won’t finish his term. I’m not sure how, but I think he will be removed for health reasons rather than in direct response to his crimes and...

        Since he got elected, I’ve made a prediction that trump won’t finish his term. I’m not sure how, but I think he will be removed for health reasons rather than in direct response to his crimes and incompetence.
        When this happens I believe all his obvious crimes will be admitted to by the party, and unknown ones will surface, and his support will collapse. And he’ll become the scapegoat of the Republican Party so Republican voters can absolve all the enablers and continue to vote against their own interests.

        6 votes
        1. [3]
          moocow1452
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          If Trump can ride it out through the midterms, then he could step down, Vance could get two election cycles as the incumbent, but the question is if Trump is willing to give up the keys, would...

          If Trump can ride it out through the midterms, then he could step down, Vance could get two election cycles as the incumbent, but the question is if Trump is willing to give up the keys, would MAGA be radioactive by then to trade out, and can they make their base look the other way on sidelining the MAGA founder for some hanger on VP, and all three of those are hard doubts IMO.

          2 votes
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            hobbes64
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            I don’t think it’s a question of stepping down. I think he’ll be forced out once the Federalist Society extracts everything they want from him. Russia and Israel aren’t the only groups that have...

            I don’t think it’s a question of stepping down. I think he’ll be forced out once the Federalist Society extracts everything they want from him. Russia and Israel aren’t the only groups that have kompromat on him.

            2 votes
            1. ICN
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              Genuinely, what kompromat could they possibly have that Trump's base would care about and wouldn't get dismissed out of hand as fake news, AI, or a deepfake?

              Genuinely, what kompromat could they possibly have that Trump's base would care about and wouldn't get dismissed out of hand as fake news, AI, or a deepfake?

              7 votes
    3. gryfft
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      The files are part of an ongoing investigation, so regardless of how the House and Senate vote, the files can't be released.

      The files are part of an ongoing investigation, so regardless of how the House and Senate vote, the files can't be released.

      6 votes