52 votes

Reddit is deleting all chat messsages made before 2023

30 comments

  1. OBLIVIATER
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    Reddit was pushing this chat so hard for mod teams, I'm glad no one sane actually used it. Can't imagine years of logs being deleted because they were too lazy to port them over to the new system.

    Reddit was pushing this chat so hard for mod teams, I'm glad no one sane actually used it. Can't imagine years of logs being deleted because they were too lazy to port them over to the new system.

    57 votes
  2. [15]
    Akir
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    I wouldn't have noticed because I never bothered with chat unless someone messaged me. I found out because a mod of one of the communities I was still subscribed to announced he was leaving...

    I wouldn't have noticed because I never bothered with chat unless someone messaged me. I found out because a mod of one of the communities I was still subscribed to announced he was leaving because he was upset as there were messages left by a deceased friend that were deleted. Some users are saying you can still get them if you put in a data request.

    Interestingly enough, while they aren't deleting old comments, they are deleting the references from your account. I just checked on my account and there is no record of any comments being made before December 1, 2022. But if I were to go to my old posts, the comments I made in them are still there.

    25 votes
    1. [12]
      updawg
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      Are you sure you're not just reaching the 1000-comment limit for display?

      Are you sure you're not just reaching the 1000-comment limit for display?

      13 votes
      1. [10]
        Akir
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        Pretty sure given after that comment I got pages of old submissions

        Pretty sure given after that comment I got pages of old submissions

        4 votes
        1. [9]
          Deimos
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          See my explanation here about the 1000-item limit in Reddit's listings. A user page on Reddit actually displays two of these listings combined: one for the user's comments and one for the user's...

          See my explanation here about the 1000-item limit in Reddit's listings.

          A user page on Reddit actually displays two of these listings combined: one for the user's comments and one for the user's submissions. What you're seeing is that your (up to) 1000 comments were made more recently than your (up to) 1000 submissions, so the submissions continue on for a while after the end of the comments one is reached.

          15 votes
          1. [8]
            xRyo
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            Wait so if I endlessly scrolled down my comments it’d be limited to 1000? The only reason I haven’t closed my reddit account is because those comments are in a way a diary for me of my teenage...

            Wait so if I endlessly scrolled down my comments it’d be limited to 1000? The only reason I haven’t closed my reddit account is because those comments are in a way a diary for me of my teenage years, if I’m not able to access those then honestly I might as well close the account down

            1 vote
            1. Parliament
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              Do a GDPR request with reddit to get a CSV file of all your activity. It's the best way to back things up if you want the data.

              Do a GDPR request with reddit to get a CSV file of all your activity. It's the best way to back things up if you want the data.

              4 votes
            2. [4]
              updawg
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              They're still there, you just can't directly access them through your profile. There are tools that let you do so.

              They're still there, you just can't directly access them through your profile. There are tools that let you do so.

              3 votes
              1. [2]
                boxer_dogs_dance
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                Like what tools? I'm curious too. : )

                Like what tools? I'm curious too. : )

                1. updawg
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                  I don't really know because I have rarely wanted to use them. Sorry.

                  I don't really know because I have rarely wanted to use them. Sorry.

              2. mild_takes
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                Your profile only shows 1000 comments.

                Your profile only shows 1000 comments.

            3. ChingShih
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              This thread gets as close to answering your question as I've seen on Reddit or Tildes. Not a complete answer by any means, but I think that if you really want it, you should do a data request as...

              This thread gets as close to answering your question as I've seen on Reddit or Tildes. Not a complete answer by any means, but I think that if you really want it, you should do a data request as soon as possible so that you're in the queue. From what I've heard there's a couple week turn-around time for getting the link to the data package.

              3 votes
            4. mild_takes
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              I'm going to come back to this to hear the response... Reddit is obviously still going to have all that data stored somehow but I see no easy way to get it. @Akir mentions making a data request,...

              I'm going to come back to this to hear the response...

              Reddit is obviously still going to have all that data stored somehow but I see no easy way to get it. @Akir mentions making a data request, maybe look into doing that.

              2 votes
      2. Parliament
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        I deleted all my displayed activity, but there are still thousands of comments in the abyss. I got a GDPR download and am deleting them that way.

        I deleted all my displayed activity, but there are still thousands of comments in the abyss. I got a GDPR download and am deleting them that way.

        1 vote
    2. Kitahara_Kazusa
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      I've noticed that when you go into the chat window, all of the old chats are in their own box called 'legacy chats', and the new chats are just in the normal box labled 'chats' or whatever....

      I've noticed that when you go into the chat window, all of the old chats are in their own box called 'legacy chats', and the new chats are just in the normal box labled 'chats' or whatever.

      Presumably they made some backend change to the chat feature at some point this year, and they are scrapping the messages in the old chat along with the feature itself. I'm not really sure why they would do this, since as far as I can tell the new and old chats are the same, but like I said I assume there's some backend improvement.

      4 votes
    3. ms_mustard
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      Interesting. I can see comments from as far back as I was willing to scroll (over a year ago).

      Interesting. I can see comments from as far back as I was willing to scroll (over a year ago).

      1 vote
  3. [4]
    introspect
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    According to a few who have requested a "takeout" of all of their data from Reddit, you can still see the old DMs in there. They still have the data; they're just being assholes.

    According to a few who have requested a "takeout" of all of their data from Reddit, you can still see the old DMs in there. They still have the data; they're just being assholes.

    14 votes
    1. [3]
      AugustusFerdinand
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      I requested a takeout and there is a messages csv in there for DMs, but it is not complete. The oldest message in the takeout only goes back to 2022 and being that my account was 17 years old, I...

      I requested a takeout and there is a messages csv in there for DMs, but it is not complete. The oldest message in the takeout only goes back to 2022 and being that my account was 17 years old, I have messages that go back much further than that.

      Doesn't help that mod messages are included in your DMs, which clutters it.

      7 votes
      1. [2]
        zptc
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        My messages csv goes back to 2014, which is also not the full duration of my account, but it contains exactly 2000 entries which I don't think is a coincidence.

        My messages csv goes back to 2014, which is also not the full duration of my account, but it contains exactly 2000 entries which I don't think is a coincidence.

        9 votes
        1. AugustusFerdinand
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          Probably not, but I didn't have such a nice round number as mine contained 1,996 entries so didn't draw that conclusion.

          Probably not, but I didn't have such a nice round number as mine contained 1,996 entries so didn't draw that conclusion.

  4. [3]
    PuddleOfKittens
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    Since nobody has explicitly said it: Reddit can't be trusted to steward your data. If there's anything on that site that you can't afford to lose, then archive.org it now. This chats thing is just...

    Since nobody has explicitly said it: Reddit can't be trusted to steward your data. If there's anything on that site that you can't afford to lose, then archive.org it now. This chats thing is just yet another example.

    10 votes
    1. [2]
      CosmicDefect
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      Wait, can I actually request an archive of my important reddit pages that way?

      Wait, can I actually request an archive of my important reddit pages that way?

      1 vote
      1. PuddleOfKittens
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        Request? Just go to archive.org and paste the URL of the relevant comment.

        Request? Just go to archive.org and paste the URL of the relevant comment.

  5. [5]
    pete_the_paper_boat
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    So they're just removing a bunch of bot spam then

    So they're just removing a bunch of bot spam then

    2 votes
    1. [4]
      Good_Apollo
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      Yeah, my chat logs would consist of 100% ignored bot spam. Interesting that people used the chat, I never saw Reddit as that sort of social media site but maybe that's just an old head thing.

      Yeah, my chat logs would consist of 100% ignored bot spam.

      Interesting that people used the chat, I never saw Reddit as that sort of social media site but maybe that's just an old head thing.

      1 vote
      1. ChingShih
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        As a mod, almost all the Chat messages that I received were from users who couldn't find the "message the mods" button. Often this was users newer to Reddit, but increasingly it was just people...

        As a mod, almost all the Chat messages that I received were from users who couldn't find the "message the mods" button. Often this was users newer to Reddit, but increasingly it was just people using New Reddit or a mobile app who weren't even aware of things like the sidebar or that different communities had different rules.

        Reddit pushed hard for people to use Chat and even today if you go to someone's /u/ profile via New Reddit you'll see two buttons below their name: Follow and Chat. The "More options" menu below the buttons doesn't look like a touch friendly interface the way the other buttons do, but is the place where they've hidden "Send a message" -- as in a DM -- along with reporting and blocking users.

        So they've buried the DM function in favor of implying that more conversation should happen in real-time and that website engagement should be as frequent as possible. Fortunately there is a setting in user preferences to turn off the ability to receive Chat messages, but who knew that was a thing until they got annoyed enough to do something about it?

        The Admins also pushed the idea that Chat could be a feature to make subreddits a more comprehensive discussion space for those who didn't want to use a third-party real-time chat application (i.e. Discord, Slack, etc.). But Chat could never meet the needs of more active mod teams and it wasn't even remotely an alternative to Live Threads, which saw use during newsworthy events developing in real time (/r/Politics would run them for election nights, for example).

        Since I never used Chat as a regular means of keeping in touch with anyone, I'd be curious to hear how people used the feature on a regular basis. It seems like yet another feature that Reddit would've been better off spinning off as a separate product, and making it a fully-featured application, than trying to shoe-in to a monolithic site that doesn't do anything particularly well.

        3 votes
      2. Kitahara_Kazusa
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        I used it as an improved version of the PM system, primarily for circumventing subreddit rules by linking things that would be banned.

        I used it as an improved version of the PM system, primarily for circumventing subreddit rules by linking things that would be banned.

        1 vote
      3. lmnanopy
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        I don’t know that I ever used chat except by accident. It seemed completely pointless.

        I don’t know that I ever used chat except by accident. It seemed completely pointless.

  6. [2]
    GogglesPisano
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    And nothing of value will be lost.

    And nothing of value will be lost.

    1. Algernon_Asimov
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      Obviously, you didn't bother reading the article: And that section includes links to other pages, such as [this Reddit post which identifies other circumstances where people have lost something of...

      Obviously, you didn't bother reading the article:

      Mashable reports that several people are distraught to learn they just lost their message histories going back several years. Particularly saddening stories include one redditor losing memorable first chats with their now-wife.

      And that section includes links to other pages, such as [this Reddit post which identifies other circumstances where people have lost something of value by having their chat histories deleted

      3 votes