I don't even wanna get into this bullshit, but this garbage justification from Elmo that he bought twitter to "take it from the extinctionists" and that "twitter was basically just another arm of...
I don't even wanna get into this bullshit, but this garbage justification from Elmo that he bought twitter to "take it from the extinctionists" and that "twitter was basically just another arm of the government" makes me want to fall asleep in a burning Tesla
I'd love to know more about "the extinctionists". Could you please point me to more reading on the specific ideology or group he's referring to? A quick google gives me a pretty bland take. By...
I'd love to know more about "the extinctionists". Could you please point me to more reading on the specific ideology or group he's referring to? A quick google gives me a pretty bland take. By what you wrote, I'm assuming it's him positioning himself as a world saviour, but I don't know the context.
I'm no expert but I took this as a reference to people who believe in climate change . Maybe an attempt to rebrand the opposition? Before anyone comes to lecture me on the factual support for...
I'm no expert but I took this as a reference to people who believe in climate change . Maybe an attempt to rebrand the opposition?
Before anyone comes to lecture me on the factual support for climate change, I'm only using the phrase believe in because thats how the climate change deniers in my life frame it
That's the thing, it's not! He just vaguely points at environmentalists and ecofascists and says that if you assume that humans destroy the planet, the conclusion is that conservation means...
That's the thing, it's not! He just vaguely points at environmentalists and ecofascists and says that if you assume that humans destroy the planet, the conclusion is that conservation means extinction of humanity. It's standard conspiracy nonsense, there's no "extinctionists". The truth is that he bought Twitter because he's an idiot with a wallet larger than his head and an equally massive ego
Funnily enough, "humanity are just a disease infecting the earth" used to be one of Joe Rogan's favorite deepities. I'm too lazy to find a video, but here's someone quoting him in his subreddit 8...
So he’s pretending that an extreme fringe viewpoint that maybe a few dozen nutjobs worldwide hold is somehow the prevailing opinion among environmentalists?
So he’s pretending that an extreme fringe viewpoint that maybe a few dozen nutjobs worldwide hold is somehow the prevailing opinion among environmentalists?
Musk called all social media tech leaders, all of san francisco, part of a death cult. Musk said "they" are pushing an extinctionist mind virus on everyone. It's a common straw man. Pick a liberal...
Musk called all social media tech leaders, all of san francisco, part of a death cult. Musk said "they" are pushing an extinctionist mind virus on everyone.
It's a common straw man.
Pick a liberal nut job. Exaggerate. Express outrage. Apply outrage to all liberals.
In this case it's even more brain dead.
Musk says he bought TWITTER because of a death cult, and his evidence is a NEW YORK TIMES story about "extinctionists."
NY is not SF....
Twitter is not the NY Times....
It's brilliant fucking marketing and branding move.
Take someone advocating for universal birth control and education, then attack them with their own words (extinctionism.)
If the "liberal media" doesn't want to talk about it? Why are they suppressing the truth?
If the "liberal media" talk about it with anything other than pure outrage, they clearly support it (extinctionism.)
Tucker Carlson from Fox News interviewed this guy in 2005.
17 years later, the NYTimes publishes a more nuanced article about this guy.
And now we all know about him, and how angry he makes Musk, how angry Musk is about the NYTimes article, and how angry Musk is at Twitter pushing a mind virus that suppresses all opposing view points.
And that is why Musk bought twitter? Because the conservative voice is being suppressed?
Give me a break.
Edit: in case it isn't clear. There is a mind virus. It's called anger and outrage, and it's spread by misinformation and lies and results in prejudice and discrimination. Think about it.
In fiction, wealthy sociopaths are elegant users of the spoken word, quoting literature to justify their villainous schemes. There is always something brooding behind their sentences -- some kind...
In fiction, wealthy sociopaths are elegant users of the spoken word, quoting literature to justify their villainous schemes. There is always something brooding behind their sentences -- some kind of irony or prediction that will eventually come true in a twisted fashion. Scheming noiresque villains always have an ace in their sleeves that surfaces somewhere along the second act to dumbfound and overwhelm the good guy. The conspiracy is even deeper, her father is also the father of her daughter, your love interest is an android controlled by him.
In Blade Runner 2049, the evil corporations are hermetic, mystic, nebulous entities that control our lives in mysterious ways.
What we really got, and that is as funny as it is tragic, was an overgrown teenager smoking weed and spewing conspiratorial nonsense to a guy wearing a blond wig.
Well, if it’s any consolation, most evil corporations that control our lives are run by shadowy figures that mostly avoid media attention. Elon Musk just happens to be an especially annoying outlier.
Well, if it’s any consolation, most evil corporations that control our lives are run by shadowy figures that mostly avoid media attention. Elon Musk just happens to be an especially annoying outlier.
Most people are incredibly average, hence average. If you, like me, subscribe to the idea that a lot of wealth is acquired through birth or luck, it stands to reason that many wealthy people will...
Most people are incredibly average, hence average.
If you, like me, subscribe to the idea that a lot of wealth is acquired through birth or luck, it stands to reason that many wealthy people will be just as ignorant and gullible as anyone else. I think that even if wealth does tend to select for brilliance or hard work, a lot of that is offset by the arrogance and overinflated sense of self that comes as a side effect of having too much money.
Only had time to listen to the first third, but what I did hear was a near perfect projection. Everything he was saying about “the people he was taking it from” is exactly what he has and/or is...
Only had time to listen to the first third, but what I did hear was a near perfect projection. Everything he was saying about “the people he was taking it from” is exactly what he has and/or is doing.
This is the right’s playbook. Accuse the other side of exactly your strategy.
Edit: I made it to the halfway point. I can barely tolerate listening to EM. He just called “old Twitter” a “state run media” “essentially Pravda”.
See @oliak ‘s comment below - I’m not saying Twitter is “state run” - but IMO his changes run absolutely parallel to making “X” more like a US “Pravda”. All the crazy conspiracy and disinformation...
See @oliak ‘s comment below - I’m not saying Twitter is “state run” - but IMO his changes run absolutely parallel to making “X” more like a US “Pravda”. All the crazy conspiracy and disinformation campaigns always seem to somehow benefit the right.
Thank you, I always appreciate a way to get the content without watching a video. Perhaps getting off topic, but I thought this sentence highlighted why I generally prefer transcripts to AI...
Thank you, I always appreciate a way to get the content without watching a video.
Perhaps getting off topic, but I thought this sentence highlighted why I generally prefer transcripts to AI summaries
He opposes Twitter's propaganda and suppression of legitimate scientists and viewpoints, even banning them, making it an arm of the government and a tool of oppression.
The phrasing makes it sound as though the conditional is valid when Twitter banned individuals as a private company. This absolutely did not make it an arm of the govt. And that's before getting into the bit with "suppression of legitimate scientists," the summary makes it sound like Musk's unsubstantiated opinion is fact.
That's not to say these aren't handy tools, just another example of how we need to critically read their outputs.
As in, a service which takes an arbitrary audio file, transcribed it, then produced a summary? If so, no, unfortunately … although a search for transcribe audio ai summary on Google seems like it...
As in, a service which takes an arbitrary audio file, transcribed it, then produced a summary? If so, no, unfortunately … although a search for transcribe audio ai summary on Google seems like it has a few promising leads.
If you have a decent GPU, you might be able to run some of this stuff locally, which might be better if the content of your audio is private? It’s pretty expensive to run this stuff, so I’d imagine most folks offering a free service are doing “something” on the side to make funding it possible.
My hot take continues to be that Musk's purchase of Twitter will be good for society in the long run, but only because he'll make it more and more repulsive and irrelevant to mainstream society. I...
My hot take continues to be that Musk's purchase of Twitter will be good for society in the long run, but only because he'll make it more and more repulsive and irrelevant to mainstream society. I actually do agree with his base premise that Twitter became "corrosive to civilization", but not for the reasons he thinks. Twitter sucks not because one flavor of partisan politics dominated, Twitter sucks because it signal-boosted the most outrageous and inflammatory rhetoric due to its ad revenue profit motive, it sucks because its character limit ensured nuance was nigh impossible to entertain, and perhaps most crucially, Twitter sucks because the worlds of journalism and politics ran under the delusion that it was somehow an accurate window into the world.
It's funny to listen to Musk elaborate on how Twitter before his purchase developed into a tool for the "extreme left" when Twitter's most significant "gift" to society was the presidency of Donald Trump. If anything, Twitter was a tool for extremists of all kinds, because the algorithms are designed to maximize "engagement", which hostility and outrage are consistently good at providing. The result is we're in a society and political environment poisoned by polarization, with a culture war driven by the terminally online.
I hope that Musk continues to ruin his platform and waste his investment, because a better society is one without Twitter at its forefront. Not that I think a better society is on the way, sadly, as whatever will take Twitter's place will almost certainly be just as "engagement" driven.
It's weird how Musk went from someone who said "I try to avoid politics" to someone who clearly follows a little too much all the latest conservative outrages (death cults, liberal biased media,...
It's weird how Musk went from someone who said "I try to avoid politics" to someone who clearly follows a little too much all the latest conservative outrages (death cults, liberal biased media, woke mind virus...)
Reminds me that we're coming up on the anniversary of when a bunch of people were saying that the final nail in the coffin for Twitter would be its implosion under the weight of traffic from The...
Reminds me that we're coming up on the anniversary of when a bunch of people were saying that the final nail in the coffin for Twitter would be its implosion under the weight of traffic from The World Cup ⚽️
I appreciate Musk's view that when the platform has a very strong leftist worldview like Twitter did, and there was overt and purposeful suppression of any certain, mainly right wing views, as he...
I appreciate Musk's view that when the platform has a very strong leftist worldview like Twitter did, and there was overt and purposeful suppression of any certain, mainly right wing views, as he proved with the release of the Twitter Files (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files), that ANY change that allows those views to be equally heard seems like a huge right wing swing. In fact it's a rebalancing, as he points out that unlike old Twitter, he's not systematically suppressing or banning left wing views, he's allowing both sides to speak and he has not banned strong left wing voices. Which of course infuriates those who were 'inside the bubble' before as they no longer enjoy an echo chamber.
It's a convenient excuse for Musk to say people don't like Twitter because they're forced to be exposed to more rightwing viewpoints, but meanwhile there's plenty of nonpartisan, objectively bad changes too.
And to further what Japeth added first, under Musk the company in fact almost immediately started banning leftist accounts. See examples such as: Chad Loder, an antifascist researcher whose...
And to further what Japeth added first, under Musk the company in fact almost immediately started banning leftist accounts. See examples such as:
Chad Loder, an antifascist researcher whose open-source investigation of the U.S. Capitol riot led to the identification and arrest of a masked Proud Boy who attacked police officers.
Video journalist Vishal Pratap Singh, who reports on far-right protests in Southern California.
The Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club, an antifascist group that provides armed security for LGBTQ+ events in North Texas.
CrimethInc, an anarchist collective that has published and distributed anarchist and anti-authoritarian zines, books, posters, and podcasts since the mid-1990s.
Musk even asked Andy Ngo to personally send him "Antifa accounts” that should be suspended directly to him.
All this while openly boosting right-wing conspiracies and talking points. This isn't a rebalancing, as demonstrated by Japeth's links as well. Twitter already had a right-wing bias and now it's openly signal boosting racists and what once were crypto fascists.
Joe Rogan hasn't had any hair for well over a decade. It's a Halloween costume of some sort. I don't recognize the reference, but he's wearing a Puerto Rico baseball jersey along with the wig....
Joe Rogan hasn't had any hair for well over a decade. It's a Halloween costume of some sort. I don't recognize the reference, but he's wearing a Puerto Rico baseball jersey along with the wig.
I don't even wanna get into this bullshit, but this garbage justification from Elmo that he bought twitter to "take it from the extinctionists" and that "twitter was basically just another arm of the government" makes me want to fall asleep in a burning Tesla
I'd love to know more about "the extinctionists". Could you please point me to more reading on the specific ideology or group he's referring to? A quick google gives me a pretty bland take. By what you wrote, I'm assuming it's him positioning himself as a world saviour, but I don't know the context.
I'm no expert but I took this as a reference to people who believe in climate change . Maybe an attempt to rebrand the opposition?
Before anyone comes to lecture me on the factual support for climate change, I'm only using the phrase
believe inbecause thats how the climate change deniers in my life frame itThat's the thing, it's not! He just vaguely points at environmentalists and ecofascists and says that if you assume that humans destroy the planet, the conclusion is that conservation means extinction of humanity. It's standard conspiracy nonsense, there's no "extinctionists". The truth is that he bought Twitter because he's an idiot with a wallet larger than his head and an equally massive ego
Funnily enough, "humanity are just a disease infecting the earth" used to be one of Joe Rogan's favorite deepities. I'm too lazy to find a video, but here's someone quoting him in his subreddit 8 years ago.
So he’s pretending that an extreme fringe viewpoint that maybe a few dozen nutjobs worldwide hold is somehow the prevailing opinion among environmentalists?
Musk called all social media tech leaders, all of san francisco, part of a death cult. Musk said "they" are pushing an extinctionist mind virus on everyone.
It's a common straw man.
Pick a liberal nut job. Exaggerate. Express outrage. Apply outrage to all liberals.
In this case it's even more brain dead.
Musk says he bought TWITTER because of a death cult, and his evidence is a NEW YORK TIMES story about "extinctionists."
NY is not SF....
Twitter is not the NY Times....
It's brilliant fucking marketing and branding move.
Take someone advocating for universal birth control and education, then attack them with their own words (extinctionism.)
If the "liberal media" doesn't want to talk about it? Why are they suppressing the truth?
If the "liberal media" talk about it with anything other than pure outrage, they clearly support it (extinctionism.)
Tucker Carlson from Fox News interviewed this guy in 2005.
17 years later, the NYTimes publishes a more nuanced article about this guy.
And now we all know about him, and how angry he makes Musk, how angry Musk is about the NYTimes article, and how angry Musk is at Twitter pushing a mind virus that suppresses all opposing view points.
And that is why Musk bought twitter? Because the conservative voice is being suppressed?
Give me a break.
Edit: in case it isn't clear. There is a mind virus. It's called anger and outrage, and it's spread by misinformation and lies and results in prejudice and discrimination. Think about it.
In fiction, wealthy sociopaths are elegant users of the spoken word, quoting literature to justify their villainous schemes. There is always something brooding behind their sentences -- some kind of irony or prediction that will eventually come true in a twisted fashion. Scheming noiresque villains always have an ace in their sleeves that surfaces somewhere along the second act to dumbfound and overwhelm the good guy. The conspiracy is even deeper, her father is also the father of her daughter, your love interest is an android controlled by him.
In Blade Runner 2049, the evil corporations are hermetic, mystic, nebulous entities that control our lives in mysterious ways.
What we really got, and that is as funny as it is tragic, was an overgrown teenager smoking weed and spewing conspiratorial nonsense to a guy wearing a blond wig.
Well, if it’s any consolation, most evil corporations that control our lives are run by shadowy figures that mostly avoid media attention. Elon Musk just happens to be an especially annoying outlier.
Most people are incredibly average, hence average.
If you, like me, subscribe to the idea that a lot of wealth is acquired through birth or luck, it stands to reason that many wealthy people will be just as ignorant and gullible as anyone else. I think that even if wealth does tend to select for brilliance or hard work, a lot of that is offset by the arrogance and overinflated sense of self that comes as a side effect of having too much money.
Yeah a key point is wealth can select for specialists who then think they're generalists
Only had time to listen to the first third, but what I did hear was a near perfect projection. Everything he was saying about “the people he was taking it from” is exactly what he has and/or is doing.
This is the right’s playbook. Accuse the other side of exactly your strategy.
Edit: I made it to the halfway point. I can barely tolerate listening to EM. He just called “old Twitter” a “state run media” “essentially Pravda”.
Projection. It’s just that.
See @oliak ‘s comment below - I’m not saying Twitter is “state run” - but IMO his changes run absolutely parallel to making “X” more like a US “Pravda”. All the crazy conspiracy and disinformation campaigns always seem to somehow benefit the right.
As always, if you don’t want to hear these voices for ten minutes to get the gist of their takes, here’s an AI generated summary of that video.
Thank you, I always appreciate a way to get the content without watching a video.
Perhaps getting off topic, but I thought this sentence highlighted why I generally prefer transcripts to AI summaries
The phrasing makes it sound as though the conditional is valid when Twitter banned individuals as a private company. This absolutely did not make it an arm of the govt. And that's before getting into the bit with "suppression of legitimate scientists," the summary makes it sound like Musk's unsubstantiated opinion is fact.
That's not to say these aren't handy tools, just another example of how we need to critically read their outputs.
Do you happen to know of any such similar service for full audio transcriptions?
As in, a service which takes an arbitrary audio file, transcribed it, then produced a summary? If so, no, unfortunately … although a search for
transcribe audio ai summaryon Google seems like it has a few promising leads.If you have a decent GPU, you might be able to run some of this stuff locally, which might be better if the content of your audio is private? It’s pretty expensive to run this stuff, so I’d imagine most folks offering a free service are doing “something” on the side to make funding it possible.
My hot take continues to be that Musk's purchase of Twitter will be good for society in the long run, but only because he'll make it more and more repulsive and irrelevant to mainstream society. I actually do agree with his base premise that Twitter became "corrosive to civilization", but not for the reasons he thinks. Twitter sucks not because one flavor of partisan politics dominated, Twitter sucks because it signal-boosted the most outrageous and inflammatory rhetoric due to its ad revenue profit motive, it sucks because its character limit ensured nuance was nigh impossible to entertain, and perhaps most crucially, Twitter sucks because the worlds of journalism and politics ran under the delusion that it was somehow an accurate window into the world.
It's funny to listen to Musk elaborate on how Twitter before his purchase developed into a tool for the "extreme left" when Twitter's most significant "gift" to society was the presidency of Donald Trump. If anything, Twitter was a tool for extremists of all kinds, because the algorithms are designed to maximize "engagement", which hostility and outrage are consistently good at providing. The result is we're in a society and political environment poisoned by polarization, with a culture war driven by the terminally online.
I hope that Musk continues to ruin his platform and waste his investment, because a better society is one without Twitter at its forefront. Not that I think a better society is on the way, sadly, as whatever will take Twitter's place will almost certainly be just as "engagement" driven.
Dan and Jordan covered this on Knowledge Fight because they cover Alex Jones and Alex Jones covered this. It's a fascinating episode.
It's weird how Musk went from someone who said "I try to avoid politics" to someone who clearly follows a little too much all the latest conservative outrages (death cults, liberal biased media, woke mind virus...)
Reminds me that we're coming up on the anniversary of when a bunch of people were saying that the final nail in the coffin for Twitter would be its implosion under the weight of traffic from The World Cup ⚽️
Both of them are.
I appreciate Musk's view that when the platform has a very strong leftist worldview like Twitter did, and there was overt and purposeful suppression of any certain, mainly right wing views, as he proved with the release of the Twitter Files (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files), that ANY change that allows those views to be equally heard seems like a huge right wing swing. In fact it's a rebalancing, as he points out that unlike old Twitter, he's not systematically suppressing or banning left wing views, he's allowing both sides to speak and he has not banned strong left wing voices. Which of course infuriates those who were 'inside the bubble' before as they no longer enjoy an echo chamber.
Except, even prior to Musk, Twitter was biased towards right-wing views.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets
And all the "Twitter Files" proved is that the company had difficulty deciding what level of moderation was appropriate.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/13/deconstructing-the-twitter-files/
It's a convenient excuse for Musk to say people don't like Twitter because they're forced to be exposed to more rightwing viewpoints, but meanwhile there's plenty of nonpartisan, objectively bad changes too.
https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2023-04-27/hate-speech-twitter-surged-since-elon-musk-takeover
And to further what Japeth added first, under Musk the company in fact almost immediately started banning leftist accounts. See examples such as:
Musk even asked Andy Ngo to personally send him "Antifa accounts” that should be suspended directly to him.
All this while openly boosting right-wing conspiracies and talking points. This isn't a rebalancing, as demonstrated by Japeth's links as well. Twitter already had a right-wing bias and now it's openly signal boosting racists and what once were crypto fascists.
Is that Joe Rogan's real hair or is he turning into a Michael Fabricant tribute?
Joe Rogan hasn't had any hair for well over a decade. It's a Halloween costume of some sort. I don't recognize the reference, but he's wearing a Puerto Rico baseball jersey along with the wig.
Edit: This, maybe? Puerto Rico breaks world record as baseball fans go blond