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America's first right-to-repair bill that bans parts pairing

14 comments

  1. [6]
    DeaconBlue
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    So, very little of consequence for the average consumer?

    And there are carve-outs for certain kinds of electronics and devices, including video game consoles, medical devices, HVAC systems, motor vehicles..

    So, very little of consequence for the average consumer?

    27 votes
    1. [4]
      NomadicCoder
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      Medical devices make sense. I’ve been a medical device developer for almost 30 years, and we have very strict reproducibility and traceability requirements for product safety and recall ability....

      Medical devices make sense. I’ve been a medical device developer for almost 30 years, and we have very strict reproducibility and traceability requirements for product safety and recall ability. Having random people make changes effectively breaks that traceability.

      31 votes
      1. teaearlgraycold
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        Video games doesn’t seem to make much sense though.

        Video games doesn’t seem to make much sense though.

        16 votes
      2. DeaconBlue
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        I have little issue with the medical device part of the sentence. I try to avoid cutting off parts in the middle of sentences in quotes because I always have to shake the feeling that someone is...

        I have little issue with the medical device part of the sentence.

        I try to avoid cutting off parts in the middle of sentences in quotes because I always have to shake the feeling that someone is trying to intentionally misinterpret the person being quoted when I see it.

        5 votes
      3. Rocket_Man
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        For supported devices yes, but it's incredibly important for medical devices to have an exception carved out if support isn't available. Otherwise people are stuck with expensive, potentially...

        For supported devices yes, but it's incredibly important for medical devices to have an exception carved out if support isn't available. Otherwise people are stuck with expensive, potentially invasive devices that become bricks that cannot be removed, repaired, and become a burden.

        2 votes
    2. moocow1452
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      Phones are not carved out, so that's something that affects people.

      Phones are not carved out, so that's something that affects people.

      15 votes
  2. 0x29A
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    As always, neutered and excepted ad nauseum by industries whiny enough to get their way.

    As always, neutered and excepted ad nauseum by industries whiny enough to get their way.

    4 votes
  3. [4]
    Moogles
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    I wonder how this impacts game consoles and if this could open the door for upgrading devices.

    I wonder how this impacts game consoles and if this could open the door for upgrading devices.

    3 votes
    1. [3]
      DeaconBlue
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      Game consoles are explicitly not included in the bill, per the article.

      Game consoles are explicitly not included in the bill, per the article.

      12 votes
      1. [2]
        F13
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        But like... Why? Just because lobbying?

        But like... Why? Just because lobbying?

        9 votes
        1. PuddleOfKittens
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          Probably because consoles 1) are traditionally subsidized by the seller, so the "just buy a new one" thing is actually bad for the seller, and 2) put a fair bit of emphasis on having the exact...

          Probably because consoles 1) are traditionally subsidized by the seller, so the "just buy a new one" thing is actually bad for the seller, and 2) put a fair bit of emphasis on having the exact same parts and preventing user-tampering.

          Also, realistically, lobbying too.

          8 votes
  4. [3]
    tanglisha
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    I bet this doesn't cover printer ink.

    I bet this doesn't cover printer ink.

    2 votes
    1. [2]
      hamstergeddon
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      Honestly at this point if you're buying a printer with predatory ink pricing, then that's kinda on you. Laser printers, refillable ink printers, etc. are all widely available. Those may be a...

      Honestly at this point if you're buying a printer with predatory ink pricing, then that's kinda on you. Laser printers, refillable ink printers, etc. are all widely available. Those may be a little more expensive outright, but they pay for themselves in the cheaper toner/ink in the long-run. And it's never been easier to research the long-term cost of a printer.

      1 vote
      1. tanglisha
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        The average person isn't aware of this. I think it's one of those things that's obvious when you're within a bubble of folks that know about it, but not to everyone else. There are a whole lot of...

        Honestly at this point if you're buying a printer with predatory ink pricing, then that's kinda on you. Laser printers, refillable ink printers, etc. are all widely available.

        The average person isn't aware of this. I think it's one of those things that's obvious when you're within a bubble of folks that know about it, but not to everyone else. There are a whole lot of people who walk into an electronics store and buy whatever the salesperson suggests.

        5 votes