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University suspends students for AI homework tool it gave them $10,000 prize to make

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    RoyalHenOil
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    It sounds like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Disjointed communication between different departments is a big problem for large organizations, but it's something that...

    It sounds like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Disjointed communication between different departments is a big problem for large organizations, but it's something that they really must prioritize or it can lead to severe consequences.

    Another fun example is the Chinese spy who recently defected to Australia (one of the Five Eyes) and is spilling everything he knows. Why? Because he is facing charges for making a militant anti-China video ... which he created for a sting operation against a genuine anti-China activist. He spent 15 years operating undercover like this for one department of the Chinese government, only for a different department to muck it all up and effectively force him to divulge extensive state secrets to the enemy to save his own skin.

    42 votes
    1. Hollow
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      Honestly I suspect it's changing attitudes too. Imagine giving a grant to develop, say, Ethereum, then it launches right after the Silk Road raid breaks. You wouldn't want your name associated...

      Honestly I suspect it's changing attitudes too. Imagine giving a grant to develop, say, Ethereum, then it launches right after the Silk Road raid breaks. You wouldn't want your name associated with it even if it hasn't done anything wrong because the technology is so strongly associated with bad actors.

      15 votes
  2. Hollow
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    The student cofounders of an AI studying tool won a $10,000 entrepreneurship prize from Emory University for their idea, were championed publicly and repeatedly by the university’s business school for creating the software, and then were promptly suspended by the school for a semester for building exactly what the school had just given them money to build.

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    DefinitelyNotAFae
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    This is so incredibly stupid on Emory's part

    This is so incredibly stupid on Emory's part

    11 votes
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      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      I'm going to contradict myself here slightly: The University almost certainly cannot speak to "their side" of the story; it's possible that there's more going on here and that suspension is...

      I'm going to contradict myself here slightly: The University almost certainly cannot speak to "their side" of the story; it's possible that there's more going on here and that suspension is actually reasonable. But I don't think it's likely. For example, if the students were told to make changes removing the API hook and didn't, or there's strong circumstantial evidence of cheating even if there's no concrete proof. Conduct standards of evidence are lower than court ones.

      BUT, that said, it think it's still probably incredibly stupid.

      14 votes
      1. sparksbet
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        Definitely if the facts are as the students allege, Emory fucked up bad (in a really stupid way too). But I checked the docket and they haven't filed any sort of response yet, so I guess we have...

        Definitely if the facts are as the students allege, Emory fucked up bad (in a really stupid way too). But I checked the docket and they haven't filed any sort of response yet, so I guess we have to wait to see how they defend themselves. If there's some dispute about the facts from their side, that's where we'd find out.

        9 votes
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    NaraVara
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    Article is paywalled. Is there a mirror?

    Article is paywalled. Is there a mirror?

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    1. overbyte
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      Court Watch has it open for now. Their About page says they paywall older articles instead.

      Court Watch has it open for now. Their About page says they paywall older articles instead.

      8 votes
    2. tauon
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      It is not pay-, just walled. 404media does this to prevent scraping by AI firms/article “dataset” gatherers which produce junk output and steal their engagement/click numbers (and work)....

      It is not pay-, just walled. 404media does this to prevent scraping by AI firms/article “dataset” gatherers which produce junk output and steal their engagement/click numbers (and work).

      Background with plentiful examples of this: https://www.404media.co/why-404-media-needs-your-email-address/

      3 votes