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How Sam Altman is profiting off of AI's problems

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  1. [5]
    TonesTones
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    I’ve been an AI and a genAI hater since day one, and I don’t have anything positive to say about the values or morals of these tech moguls. Still, this doesn’t feel like high quality journalism to...

    I’ve been an AI and a genAI hater since day one, and I don’t have anything positive to say about the values or morals of these tech moguls.

    Still, this doesn’t feel like high quality journalism to me. The speaker spends the first few minutes of the video describing Loopt as a failed product with no users and implies that Altman lied to get his product sold. Loopt’s product or users weren’t the important part; it was sold primarily for its patent on interactive location maps, which Apple still likely pays a licensing fee for to this day for Find My (unless the patent lawyers have finagled something). I found that with just a few minutes of searching.

    Oversights like that make it feel like this is a person with a political agenda rather than a journalist reporting on a story. Maybe that’s alright, but honestly, I think there’s enough to criticize about AI financing and social harm without misleading like this. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

    20 votes
    1. Hollow
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      Well...yeah. It's a non-profit led by Bernie Sanders' senior policy advisor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Perfect_Union_(media_organization)#Organization_and_leadership

      Oversights like that make it feel like this is a person with a political agenda rather than a journalist reporting on a story.

      Well...yeah. It's a non-profit led by Bernie Sanders' senior policy advisor.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Perfect_Union_(media_organization)#Organization_and_leadership

      12 votes
    2. [3]
      AnthonyB
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      Is there somewhere in the link you attached that says that? I skimmed it a bit and tried looking it up elsewhere, but I'm no google master, tech savant, or patent expert. Regardless, I'm not sure...

      it was sold primarily for its patent on interactive location maps, which Apple still likely pays a licensing fee for to this day for Find My (unless the patent lawyers have finagled something). I found that with just a few minutes of searching.

      Is there somewhere in the link you attached that says that? I skimmed it a bit and tried looking it up elsewhere, but I'm no google master, tech savant, or patent expert.

      Regardless, I'm not sure if that makes a huge difference in how that story was used for this piece. At the end of the day, the app failed its intended purpose, Altman did lie about the user base, and the company was sold for a price that raised eyebrows. I couldn't find anything related to the supposedly disgruntled green dot investors, but the rest of that Loopt segment is basically paraphrasing the Reuters article that was quoted, and there are various snippets and threads from the time, like this one that echo the sentiment.

      MPU does have a clear agenda though, and I get how that is not for everyone.

      8 votes
      1. TonesTones
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        Yeah, what you’re saying makes a lot of sense. I’m being a bit too harsh. To answer your question, I got that information from Green Dot’s publication about the acquisiton. In particular, the...

        Yeah, what you’re saying makes a lot of sense. I’m being a bit too harsh.

        To answer your question, I got that information from Green Dot’s publication about the acquisiton. In particular, the Green Dot CEO cited “innovative mobile technology, market leading mobile programming capabilities and compelling intellectual property” as the reasons for the sale, all of which are related to tech assets and not product. They also cite expenses associated with the “wind-down [] of current Loopt services” as part of their forecast, implying they don’t intend to keep the actual Loopt app around (and therefore don’t care about the user numbers). I linked the patent directly since it was the only patent I saw that I could immediately tell was useful, and I wanted to keep my comment succinct.

        Still, you are right that the story and the Reuters article do demonstrate a history of Altman lying, since he definitely lied in his statement to the press about user numbers. In the context of the larger story, my criticism probably isn’t that important.

        6 votes
      2. mordae
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        The agenda is "you should organize and fight back against exploitation". Sometimes they are overly eager, but it's a breath of fresh air after decades of liberal-conservative "it will trickle...

        MPU does have a clear agenda though, and I get how that is not for everyone.

        The agenda is "you should organize and fight back against exploitation". Sometimes they are overly eager, but it's a breath of fresh air after decades of liberal-conservative "it will trickle down", so... But yeah, the one about cheese coops was better.

        6 votes
  2. [4]
    phoenixrises
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    -offtopic- @mycketforvirrad You are literally so fast LOL the timestamp for posting was 57 seconds ago and all your changes has been made 37s and 17s ago at this moment. Hope you get some good...

    -offtopic-

    @mycketforvirrad
    You are literally so fast LOL the timestamp for posting was 57 seconds ago and all your changes has been made 37s and 17s ago at this moment.

    Hope you get some good rest and have happy holidays! Thank you for all your hard work!

    12 votes
    1. [3]
      mycketforvirrad
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      Nothing like some early morning tagging to get a person woken up for the day! Merry Christmas. 🎅

      Nothing like some early morning tagging to get a person woken up for the day! Merry Christmas. 🎅

      11 votes
      1. [2]
        chocobean
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        mycket the rocket 🚀 thanks for all your efforts as always and Merry Christmas!

        mycket the rocket 🚀 thanks for all your efforts as always and Merry Christmas!

        3 votes
        1. mycketforvirrad
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          Thank you for the kind words. Merry Christmas! 🎄

          Thank you for the kind words. Merry Christmas! 🎄

          3 votes
  3. [6]
    terminal
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    I really dislike clickbait titles like this. Please add at least some relevant info in either the title or description.

    I really dislike clickbait titles like this. Please add at least some relevant info in either the title or description.

    10 votes
    1. [2]
      cfabbro
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      I changed the topic title to DeArrow's video title suggestion. Let me know if that's better.

      I changed the topic title to DeArrow's video title suggestion. Let me know if that's better.

      10 votes
      1. terminal
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        Thank you it is much better.

        Thank you it is much better.

        3 votes
    2. [3]
      phoenixrises
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      nothing wrong with hitting the "Ignore this post" action for things that you dislike :)

      nothing wrong with hitting the "Ignore this post" action for things that you dislike :)

      5 votes
      1. stu2b50
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        I mean they said they dislike clickbait titles, not necessarily the video itself. It’s not abnormal to change the title to one that isn’t clickbait (namely, to put the thing Sam Altman doesn’t...

        I mean they said they dislike clickbait titles, not necessarily the video itself. It’s not abnormal to change the title to one that isn’t clickbait (namely, to put the thing Sam Altman doesn’t want you to know in the title).

        14 votes
      2. terminal
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        Yep i could. I just hope that tildes holds to higher quality posting standards than reddit, facebook, etc… plenty of clickbait there. I prefer to know why i should click a link rather than being...

        Yep i could. I just hope that tildes holds to higher quality posting standards than reddit, facebook, etc… plenty of clickbait there. I prefer to know why i should click a link rather than being left with an ambiguous statement.

        Also personally i wont click on clickbaity titles as a form of personal protest of them.

        5 votes