This project seems extremely vibe-coded. All the docs are written with that "it's not x, it's y" LLM style phrasing (seriously, nearly every single paragraph contains it, look at this page) and an...
This project seems extremely vibe-coded. All the docs are written with that "it's not x, it's y" LLM style phrasing (seriously, nearly every single paragraph contains it, look at this page) and an ungodly amount of em-dashes. I like its emphasis on privacy and I think it's a fairly well-designed site overall, but honestly the fact that it's so obviously vibecoded (or at least created with heavy AI assistance) and isn't open-source or even source-available, is an instant no from me.
The dev commented about open-source. I also much prefer open-source, but I can understand not releasing it early (IIRC it was the same for tildes?) :
The dev commented about open-source. I also much prefer open-source, but I can understand not releasing it early (IIRC it was the same for tildes?) :
I’d like to release it, but right now I don’t feel confident putting it into production or releasing the source code.
Usually I write the code myself and use AI to review it or give me suggestions, honestly, if it were 100% vibecoded, I’d probably feel more comfortable releasing the source code, because I’d trust that more than my own skills.
I released the Shellbeats source code because it runs locally.
At the moment I have two main problems I’m a solo developer, and my English isn’t very good. I use LLMs to help me with translations and some public pages for indexing purpose, even if I feel that AI text gets perceived as “an AI project” and instantly labeled as vibecode, for me the problem is mostly linguistic.
I need to speed up some parts of the process, because there is just a huge amount of work, and I’m working on this at night.
I hope to release it and open the dev with API integration on guilds!
PS: In real life I'm not a dev I have a small company that works on ICT infrastructure and networking, coding was just a hobby since I was kid.
This looks really interesting and is exactly what I've been looking for. That being said, there are some things that bug me. Firstly, there is no information about this site/app anywhere else...
This looks really interesting and is exactly what I've been looking for. That being said, there are some things that bug me. Firstly, there is no information about this site/app anywhere else beside this website, and additionally it talks a lot about it being a good alternative to reddit etc. but there is no concrete list of what actually is implemented and what isn't. There's an iOS store button and an app store button on the home page but the android one is greyed out, I'm guessing it's iOS first/web second for now because of development ease.
Secondly: It took me a while to find the version notes; if you click the version number on the left side it will open a window with two posts, one from a month ago and one from two months ago. There are a ton of mistakes in those notes, even though the rest of the website is quite well-written.
I will keep an eye on this, and I really do hope that this will become what it has set out to become because I so desperately am tired of the shenanigans that reddit and discord are doing. Still, this project is not as transparent as they want to make it seem, presumably to mask the project being very recently started, which I understand. Kudos to them for doing this.
If you click on the site name in the top left there's a bit more info. But it seems to be a single dev from Italy (maybe explain some of the mistakes with the text) so there's probably a lot of...
If you click on the site name in the top left there's a bit more info. But it seems to be a single dev from Italy (maybe explain some of the mistakes with the text) so there's probably a lot of bugs (I already saw some...) and risk of stalling (specially since it doesn't seem open source at the moment).
The first thing the website did as I scrolled down to see what it's about was interrupt me with a login prompt. That instantly killed any interest I may have had for this.
The first thing the website did as I scrolled down to see what it's about was interrupt me with a login prompt. That instantly killed any interest I may have had for this.
I'm not affiliated with them and I don't want to turn away people from tildes, but I like the overall feel of this platform. There's a ton (more nowadays with Claude helping) of reddit clones but...
I'm not affiliated with them and I don't want to turn away people from tildes, but I like the overall feel of this platform. There's a ton (more nowadays with Claude helping) of reddit clones but most of them are boring and don't have much soul. This one feels a bit more unique, and with integrated IRC, private subs, and quite a lot of features it could be interesting. The integrated terminal-based music streaming app seems cool too.
It reminds me of a text-based RPG I played a bit a long time ago somehow.
TBH Tildes doesn't really aspire to be a full reddit clone. The site would fall apart under the weight of a gigantic userbase, especially one that encouraged fluff instead of discussion. This...
TBH Tildes doesn't really aspire to be a full reddit clone. The site would fall apart under the weight of a gigantic userbase, especially one that encouraged fluff instead of discussion.
Indeed, looks like cyberspace.online is not open source so they must have copied the interface. Maybe I should join the original instead, is it any good ?
Indeed, looks like cyberspace.online is not open source so they must have copied the interface. Maybe I should join the original instead, is it any good ?
This feels really unique and a breath of fresh air. Even has a nord theme ! That being said, feels a bit overwhelming and all over the place. Mail, IRC, Guilds, Feed, Notes, Topics.... Not sure...
This feels really unique and a breath of fresh air. Even has a nord theme ! That being said, feels a bit overwhelming and all over the place. Mail, IRC, Guilds, Feed, Notes, Topics.... Not sure where to even start.
I can already see a lot of work was put into the site and it's really well polished.
I really, really dig the aesthetics, but after putzing around for a few minutes, I can see the "vibe coded" quality, specifically with what I think was the "about this site" page. Scrolling queue...
I really, really dig the aesthetics, but after putzing around for a few minutes, I can see the "vibe coded" quality, specifically with what I think was the "about this site" page.
Scrolling queue cards that roll off screen, all of which on an overlay and a "dead image" symbol on the top left corner, and a close button on the right that doesn't close, and the mission statement about said website is all just mindless business-yammering about the qualia of meerkats.
I wonder why matrix gets such little traction as a discord alternative. It's actually open source and encrypted and very discord like. That one seems to be closed source, it seems like if it gains...
I wonder why matrix gets such little traction as a discord alternative. It's actually open source and encrypted and very discord like. That one seems to be closed source, it seems like if it gains traction it will just be a matter of time before enshitification hits.
It has some problems https://wiki.alopex.li/DitchingDiscord#matrix But prob the main reason is that it's federated (too complex for average people) and doesn't have all of the Discord features....
But prob the main reason is that it's federated (too complex for average people) and doesn't have all of the Discord features. Mainly no voice chat, had problems with moderation in the past, lackluster emoji support, no gif support and some others....
That being said I switched to it from discord. It's okay. I like the encryption. Not perfect but it does the job.
Matrix still has enough velocity (presumably due to funding from actual clients) that some of this is still out of date - which is surprising, but potentially a good problem to have? It does -...
Matrix still has enough velocity (presumably due to funding from actual clients) that some of this is still out of date - which is surprising, but potentially a good problem to have?
no voice chat
It does - both "Start a call" type of voice chat, and "Wander in and out of a voice-only room" type voice chat. "New Conversation > New Video Room" will get you there
Per the wiki you mentioned, there's also been lots of work on their points. Synapse, presumably driven partly out of Matrix's self-interest (I.E., keeping their public server hosting cost lower) has gotten leaner. Their description of clients suggests it's been some time since the review was written (I'd guess ~early 2025), as ElementX is juuuust this side of complete. For example, support for Spaces just shipped. Their other "Sometimes things are slow and/or broken" also suggests they were using the older, much less performant Element client, and I'd assume at least partially on the (overloaded) Matrix.org homeserver.
Though between the old data, missing that the different choices made between XMPP and Matrix means different difficulties at different points, and obtusely deciding not to recognize the system design means each server is an authoritative server, I'm getting more annoyed by the paragraph - so I'm bailing at:
Lemme tell you a secret about global event ordering in chat rooms: nobody cares. These aren’t bank transactions. If two users get the same two messages in opposite order from each other then it’s fine, even in a formal setting like a university talk or a work chatroom, and it can be fixed by the client as soon as the authoritative server decides on what ordering is correct. [...] You don’t heckin’ need a single global consistency chain that can be reproduced exactly by every single system involved even if it’s on Mars, just so that lesbian catgirls can say “mreow uwu” to each other on the internet
There are reasons XMPP never took off, and some of those are the same reason Matrix is acceptable to organizations like NATO, while XMPP is not.
This project seems extremely vibe-coded. All the docs are written with that "it's not x, it's y" LLM style phrasing (seriously, nearly every single paragraph contains it, look at this page) and an ungodly amount of em-dashes. I like its emphasis on privacy and I think it's a fairly well-designed site overall, but honestly the fact that it's so obviously vibecoded (or at least created with heavy AI assistance) and isn't open-source or even source-available, is an instant no from me.
The dev commented about open-source. I also much prefer open-source, but I can understand not releasing it early (IIRC it was the same for tildes?) :
The Tildes source code was released about three months after the site launched
This looks really interesting and is exactly what I've been looking for. That being said, there are some things that bug me. Firstly, there is no information about this site/app anywhere else beside this website, and additionally it talks a lot about it being a good alternative to reddit etc. but there is no concrete list of what actually is implemented and what isn't. There's an iOS store button and an app store button on the home page but the android one is greyed out, I'm guessing it's iOS first/web second for now because of development ease.
Secondly: It took me a while to find the version notes; if you click the version number on the left side it will open a window with two posts, one from a month ago and one from two months ago. There are a ton of mistakes in those notes, even though the rest of the website is quite well-written.
I will keep an eye on this, and I really do hope that this will become what it has set out to become because I so desperately am tired of the shenanigans that reddit and discord are doing. Still, this project is not as transparent as they want to make it seem, presumably to mask the project being very recently started, which I understand. Kudos to them for doing this.
If you click on the site name in the top left there's a bit more info. But it seems to be a single dev from Italy (maybe explain some of the mistakes with the text) so there's probably a lot of bugs (I already saw some...) and risk of stalling (specially since it doesn't seem open source at the moment).
https://surikata.app/from/reddit
I guess they're the only part written by an actual human
The first thing the website did as I scrolled down to see what it's about was interrupt me with a login prompt. That instantly killed any interest I may have had for this.
I got the same thing. You can close the prompt and carry on looking without registering.
I'm not affiliated with them and I don't want to turn away people from tildes, but I like the overall feel of this platform. There's a ton (more nowadays with Claude helping) of reddit clones but most of them are boring and don't have much soul. This one feels a bit more unique, and with integrated IRC, private subs, and quite a lot of features it could be interesting. The integrated terminal-based music streaming app seems cool too.
It reminds me of a text-based RPG I played a bit a long time ago somehow.
TBH Tildes doesn't really aspire to be a full reddit clone. The site would fall apart under the weight of a gigantic userbase, especially one that encouraged fluff instead of discussion.
This seems a fun supplement, thanks for sharing!
hm...it looks like a clone of the cyberspace.online
Indeed, looks like cyberspace.online is not open source so they must have copied the interface. Maybe I should join the original instead, is it any good ?
This feels really unique and a breath of fresh air. Even has a nord theme ! That being said, feels a bit overwhelming and all over the place. Mail, IRC, Guilds, Feed, Notes, Topics.... Not sure where to even start.
I can already see a lot of work was put into the site and it's really well polished.
I really, really dig the aesthetics, but after putzing around for a few minutes, I can see the "vibe coded" quality, specifically with what I think was the "about this site" page.
Scrolling queue cards that roll off screen, all of which on an overlay and a "dead image" symbol on the top left corner, and a close button on the right that doesn't close, and the mission statement about said website is all just mindless business-yammering about the qualia of meerkats.
Really do dig the aesthetics though.
I wonder why matrix gets such little traction as a discord alternative. It's actually open source and encrypted and very discord like. That one seems to be closed source, it seems like if it gains traction it will just be a matter of time before enshitification hits.
It has some problems
https://wiki.alopex.li/DitchingDiscord#matrix
But prob the main reason is that it's federated (too complex for average people) and doesn't have all of the Discord features. Mainly no voice chat, had problems with moderation in the past, lackluster emoji support, no gif support and some others....
That being said I switched to it from discord. It's okay. I like the encryption. Not perfect but it does the job.
Forgot to mention that it may have more people than you realize, it hit 115 mil users in 2023 https://www.thestack.technology/matrix-protocol-users-2023/ (i know , hard to believe).
Matrix still has enough velocity (presumably due to funding from actual clients) that some of this is still out of date - which is surprising, but potentially a good problem to have?
It does - both "Start a call" type of voice chat, and "Wander in and out of a voice-only room" type voice chat. "New Conversation > New Video Room" will get you there
Per the wiki you mentioned, there's also been lots of work on their points. Synapse, presumably driven partly out of Matrix's self-interest (I.E., keeping their public server hosting cost lower) has gotten leaner. Their description of clients suggests it's been some time since the review was written (I'd guess ~early 2025), as ElementX is juuuust this side of complete. For example, support for Spaces just shipped. Their other "Sometimes things are slow and/or broken" also suggests they were using the older, much less performant Element client, and I'd assume at least partially on the (overloaded) Matrix.org homeserver.
Though between the old data, missing that the different choices made between XMPP and Matrix means different difficulties at different points, and obtusely deciding not to recognize the system design means each server is an authoritative server, I'm getting more annoyed by the paragraph - so I'm bailing at:
There are reasons XMPP never took off, and some of those are the same reason Matrix is acceptable to organizations like NATO, while XMPP is not.