This project seems extremely vibe-coded. All the docs are written with that "it's not x, it's y" LLM style phrasing (seriously, nearly every single paragraph contains it, look at this page) and an...
This project seems extremely vibe-coded. All the docs are written with that "it's not x, it's y" LLM style phrasing (seriously, nearly every single paragraph contains it, look at this page) and an ungodly amount of em-dashes. I like its emphasis on privacy and I think it's a fairly well-designed site overall, but honestly the fact that it's so obviously vibecoded (or at least created with heavy AI assistance) and isn't open-source or even source-available, is an instant no from me.
The dev commented about open-source. I also much prefer open-source, but I can understand not releasing it early (IIRC it was the same for tildes?) :
The dev commented about open-source. I also much prefer open-source, but I can understand not releasing it early (IIRC it was the same for tildes?) :
I’d like to release it, but right now I don’t feel confident putting it into production or releasing the source code.
Usually I write the code myself and use AI to review it or give me suggestions, honestly, if it were 100% vibecoded, I’d probably feel more comfortable releasing the source code, because I’d trust that more than my own skills.
I released the Shellbeats source code because it runs locally.
At the moment I have two main problems I’m a solo developer, and my English isn’t very good. I use LLMs to help me with translations and some public pages for indexing purpose, even if I feel that AI text gets perceived as “an AI project” and instantly labeled as vibecode, for me the problem is mostly linguistic.
I need to speed up some parts of the process, because there is just a huge amount of work, and I’m working on this at night.
I hope to release it and open the dev with API integration on guilds!
PS: In real life I'm not a dev I have a small company that works on ICT infrastructure and networking, coding was just a hobby since I was kid.
I'm a free software enthusiast on principle more than anything, but the modern state of AI-assisted programming has created a situation where avoiding proprietary software can be as much a...
I'm a free software enthusiast on principle more than anything, but the modern state of AI-assisted programming has created a situation where avoiding proprietary software can be as much a necessary practical choice as an ideological one. Simply because with small websites like this one you have absolutely no idea what the backend looks like, and have no way of knowing about any potentially catastrophic security holes brought about by a vibe coder telling Claude "make this website extra secure here are my private keys please don't leak them". This is a problem with FOSS software too of course, but at least there you can look at the code and decide whether or not you want to use it, or even submit your own fixes.
There was an incident a while back with a small streaming app for self-hosted servers where it was discovered that you could just send it a single curl command and it would respond with the credentials for your entire media stack. It was vibe-coded so poorly that an unprivileged user could literally just ask it for all its passwords and it woud give you full access to the server. The developer was made aware of this issue (and many more equally horrifying ones) multiple times and actively removed discussion of it when it was brought up on their github/subreddit, and only when a user raised alarm bells on a half dozen big subreddits and it blew up did the issue get resolved. Well, the maintainer nuked the entire project off the internet; but still, resolved.
Imagine if that app had been proprietary. Worse still, think about how many proprietary programs there are out there that are made in essentially the same way as that vibe-coded media manager, with developers that are naive enough to think they're on top of things. Now, the issues with that app were enormous enough that they absolutely would have been found with or without the source code, but without the source code (and the frankly laughable state of the app that caused the public to react so strongly) it's unlikely that they would have all been discovered, yet alone fixed and disclosed in a timely manner.
I can respect a developer wanting to hold off on showing everyone their source code before they're satisfied with its quality, but I think with a privacy-focused social media website it's a strange choice. On a more philosophical point, I think part of the joy of free software is not having to bear the burden of all the design choices, all of the labour required to build a project, because other people can contribute to the project. For a social media site, a project entirely about collaboration with others, it really seems like a no-brainer to have it be free software. Of course, some amount of ownership of one's work needs to be given up when a project is open-sourced, and that can be a tough pill to swallow. A while back I had a big long conversation here about the blogging site Bear changing from FOSS to source-available, and while with hindsight I'd probably change the way I phrased a lot of stuff there (creesch had some very good points in opposition to mine), I can see some echoes of it in this situation.
It's all about trust at the end of the day, I suppose. Ultimately I don't trust any potentially vibe-coded project (which in today's world unfortunately means basically every project), and proprietary software is inherently untrustworthy, so a proprietary project that looks AI-generated raises alarm bells for me. I'd love to see this project open-sourced at some point, it does look pretty cool and I'm always on the lookout for alternative social media websites.
As a final note (I've rambled on for too long), using LLMs for translations is one of the uses of the tech that I can sorta begrudgingly accept. My general opinion of LLMs is that I wish they weren't a thing and I stubbornly refuse to use them on principle, but I accept there are valid uses for them in various situations and I can get why people would use them sometimes. Even with programming I think they are absolutely a useful tool - I use the term "vibe code" to refer to a project made basically entirely with AI where the "developer" doesn't really know how it works to begin with. I would always prefer a "luddite" solution to a problem over an AI-generated one, but for something like translations I'm not going to be too mad that they didn't find a human to do their site text. I do wish that they had, it would have read a lot better that way, but still.
I have no doubt this happens. But, I do want to push back on the thought that this has become an issue with vibe coded websites specifically. Back in the early 2000s I was able to hack together my...
Simply because with small websites like this one you have absolutely no idea what the backend looks like, and have no way of knowing about any potentially catastrophic security holes brought about by a vibe coder telling Claude "make this website extra secure here are my private keys please don't leak them".
I have no doubt this happens. But, I do want to push back on the thought that this has become an issue with vibe coded websites specifically.
Back in the early 2000s I was able to hack together my own blog/cms including a commenting system without really knowing what I was doing by just throwing together php snippets until it worked. On the front it looked (for the time) fairly fancy but looking back it was a complete security nightmare. Not even compared to modern practices and standards, by the standards of the time it was a complete mess.
And given what I have seen over the years there are many websites out there that are still like that. All without any LLM involvement.
It's the main reason why having unique passwords for services has been preached for ages. Because the reality is that websites do get compromised and things will leak. As an extra example, if I check https://haveibeenpwned.com the first entry for a leak where I was involved dates back to 2010.
I am sure vibecoding adds another whole layer to it. But I already did operate with very little trust towards anything requiring me to sign up.
There have always been websites out there with enormous security flaws, absolutely, and I don't mean to assert that AI coding is the root cause of security holes, or even an intrinsically flawed...
There have always been websites out there with enormous security flaws, absolutely, and I don't mean to assert that AI coding is the root cause of security holes, or even an intrinsically flawed system. It's an extremely powerful and useful tool in the hands of people who know what they're doing. But I do think the introduction of AI coding and the subsequent lowering of the barrier of entry for software development has exacerbated the issue. AI has made it far easier for the average person with little to no programming chops to create a good-looking website from scratch, and with the bar for entry being that much lower I reckon it's had an impact on the overall quality of code, at least in the amateur scene.
Granted I have no hard data to back this up so perhaps I'm entirely wrong; I'm sure someone out there has run the numbers on the effect AI coding has had on the rate of vulnerabilities being discovered, but truthfully it's out of my area of expertise. I think of it less as a strict "websites pre-AI are mostly secure and websites made with AI are mostly trash" and more of a practical guideline I follow. When weighing up whether to get involved with a website or to start using an application, I look at the state of the project and the people in charge: If I see that they're amateurs making heavy use of AI code, it's an indicator to me that they might lack the expertise to make a stable and secure program. It's not a guarantee of course, nor is the lack of AI code a guarantee of quality, but it's a red flag.
Like you said, we really shouldn't implicitly trust any website with our data to begin with, open-source or not, AI-generated or otherwise. But it's all a compromise on the internet; fortunately we can be choosy with the programs we trust our data with, and good digital hygiene should be used no matter where you're signing up for.
Many people are completely off the mark about the skill level of humans when it comes to coding, and completely delusional about most people's ability to reason adversarially and understand...
Many people are completely off the mark about the skill level of humans when it comes to coding, and completely delusional about most people's ability to reason adversarially and understand security. I don't know that AI right now is making things net better, because AI is now allowing even more people who have no clue what they are doing to connect code to the internet but I regularly have interactions with claude / gemini that are way more helpful (especially review) than a typical interaction with another dev. Doesn't make me pleased to say that, but it's true.
Security awareness, even in professional software development is in my experience often lower than many people expect from the outside. Shockingly low even. Most of the breaches on haveibeenpwned...
Security awareness, even in professional software development is in my experience often lower than many people expect from the outside. Shockingly low even. Most of the breaches on haveibeenpwned where my mail is involved are for big companies, those who have security teams, policies, etc.
You are right that LLMs have brought the ability to create software with no prior knowledge much closer to many people. And they might have made things even worse. But overall it hasn't changed my perception on third party software and security implications is what I am saying.
I'm sure someone out there has run the numbers on the effect AI coding has had on the rate of vulnerabilities being discovered
Something I also suspect is very difficult to do properly do. At the very least you will see an insane amount of attempts at claimed CVEs which are effectively AI slop, more recently Anthropic has been making waves with actually CVEs being found by their models (the whole mythos thing if you have seen the news) so you might actually see a spike for that as well on the confirmed side of CVEs.
I had a go at creating stats based on the github advisory database. But it is quite difficult to draw conclusions as the amount of sources for it has changed over the years as well as the ecosystems monitored. What I do see is a big spike in the past two months which I suspect might be result of LLMs being used to audit code. But on a per month basis for the past 5 years or so I don't see any real trends up or down.
Of course, this is only vulnerabilities in published packages used as dependencies. It doesn't saw much about software in general.
Like you said, we really shouldn't implicitly trust any website with our data to begin with, open-source or not, AI-generated or otherwise. But it's all a compromise on the internet; fortunately we can be choosy with the programs we trust our data with, and good digital hygiene should be used no matter where you're signing up for.
I was also managing a forum back in the days (15-20 years ago), and alongside some questionable php we also never kept up properly the software (Simple Machines Forum) up-to-date, so the thing is...
I was also managing a forum back in the days (15-20 years ago), and alongside some questionable php we also never kept up properly the software (Simple Machines Forum) up-to-date, so the thing is probably full of holes. It's still up and running somehow (I guess being a small obscure helps a lot).
I wish people would just be upfront about their vibe coded projects. ‘I didn’t write this and might not be able to update it… but okay with it until it crumbles’ In a few communities I run, I have...
I wish people would just be upfront about their vibe coded projects. ‘I didn’t write this and might not be able to update it… but okay with it until it crumbles’
In a few communities I run, I have a blanket ‘no software’ rule since they were both flooded with shit apps that could be a spreadsheet.
The first thing the website did as I scrolled down to see what it's about was interrupt me with a login prompt. That instantly killed any interest I may have had for this.
The first thing the website did as I scrolled down to see what it's about was interrupt me with a login prompt. That instantly killed any interest I may have had for this.
This looks really interesting and is exactly what I've been looking for. That being said, there are some things that bug me. Firstly, there is no information about this site/app anywhere else...
This looks really interesting and is exactly what I've been looking for. That being said, there are some things that bug me. Firstly, there is no information about this site/app anywhere else beside this website, and additionally it talks a lot about it being a good alternative to reddit etc. but there is no concrete list of what actually is implemented and what isn't. There's an iOS store button and an app store button on the home page but the android one is greyed out, I'm guessing it's iOS first/web second for now because of development ease.
Secondly: It took me a while to find the version notes; if you click the version number on the left side it will open a window with two posts, one from a month ago and one from two months ago. There are a ton of mistakes in those notes, even though the rest of the website is quite well-written.
I will keep an eye on this, and I really do hope that this will become what it has set out to become because I so desperately am tired of the shenanigans that reddit and discord are doing. Still, this project is not as transparent as they want to make it seem, presumably to mask the project being very recently started, which I understand. Kudos to them for doing this.
If you click on the site name in the top left there's a bit more info. But it seems to be a single dev from Italy (maybe explain some of the mistakes with the text) so there's probably a lot of...
If you click on the site name in the top left there's a bit more info. But it seems to be a single dev from Italy (maybe explain some of the mistakes with the text) so there's probably a lot of bugs (I already saw some...) and risk of stalling (specially since it doesn't seem open source at the moment).
Indeed, looks like cyberspace.online is not open source so they must have copied the interface. Maybe I should join the original instead, is it any good ?
Indeed, looks like cyberspace.online is not open source so they must have copied the interface. Maybe I should join the original instead, is it any good ?
I really, really dig the aesthetics, but after putzing around for a few minutes, I can see the "vibe coded" quality, specifically with what I think was the "about this site" page. Scrolling queue...
I really, really dig the aesthetics, but after putzing around for a few minutes, I can see the "vibe coded" quality, specifically with what I think was the "about this site" page.
Scrolling queue cards that roll off screen, all of which on an overlay and a "dead image" symbol on the top left corner, and a close button on the right that doesn't close, and the mission statement about said website is all just mindless business-yammering about the qualia of meerkats.
I'm not affiliated with them and I don't want to turn away people from tildes, but I like the overall feel of this platform. There's a ton (more nowadays with Claude helping) of reddit clones but...
I'm not affiliated with them and I don't want to turn away people from tildes, but I like the overall feel of this platform. There's a ton (more nowadays with Claude helping) of reddit clones but most of them are boring and don't have much soul. This one feels a bit more unique, and with integrated IRC, private subs, and quite a lot of features it could be interesting. The integrated terminal-based music streaming app seems cool too.
It reminds me of a text-based RPG I played a bit a long time ago somehow.
TBH Tildes doesn't really aspire to be a full reddit clone. The site would fall apart under the weight of a gigantic userbase, especially one that encouraged fluff instead of discussion. This...
TBH Tildes doesn't really aspire to be a full reddit clone. The site would fall apart under the weight of a gigantic userbase, especially one that encouraged fluff instead of discussion.
I wonder why matrix gets such little traction as a discord alternative. It's actually open source and encrypted and very discord like. That one seems to be closed source, it seems like if it gains...
I wonder why matrix gets such little traction as a discord alternative. It's actually open source and encrypted and very discord like. That one seems to be closed source, it seems like if it gains traction it will just be a matter of time before enshitification hits.
Matrix still has enough velocity (presumably due to funding from actual clients) that some of this is still out of date - which is surprising, but potentially a good problem to have? It does -...
Matrix still has enough velocity (presumably due to funding from actual clients) that some of this is still out of date - which is surprising, but potentially a good problem to have?
no voice chat
It does - both "Start a call" type of voice chat, and "Wander in and out of a voice-only room" type voice chat. "New Conversation > New Video Room" will get you there
Per the wiki you mentioned, there's also been lots of work on their points. Synapse, presumably driven partly out of Matrix's self-interest (I.E., keeping their public server hosting cost lower) has gotten leaner. Their description of clients suggests it's been some time since the review was written (I'd guess ~early 2025), as ElementX is juuuust this side of complete. For example, support for Spaces just shipped. Their other "Sometimes things are slow and/or broken" also suggests they were using the older, much less performant Element client, and I'd assume at least partially on the (overloaded) Matrix.org homeserver.
Though between the old data, missing that the different choices made between XMPP and Matrix means different difficulties at different points, and obtusely deciding not to recognize the system design means each server is an authoritative server, I'm getting more annoyed by the paragraph - so I'm bailing at:
Lemme tell you a secret about global event ordering in chat rooms: nobody cares. These aren’t bank transactions. If two users get the same two messages in opposite order from each other then it’s fine, even in a formal setting like a university talk or a work chatroom, and it can be fixed by the client as soon as the authoritative server decides on what ordering is correct. [...] You don’t heckin’ need a single global consistency chain that can be reproduced exactly by every single system involved even if it’s on Mars, just so that lesbian catgirls can say “mreow uwu” to each other on the internet
There are reasons XMPP never took off, and some of those are the same reason Matrix is acceptable to organizations like NATO, while XMPP is not.
From a user perspective I don't really see how federation makes it complicated, since you can friend anyone on any server without doing anything special. Is it just that they won't know which...
From a user perspective I don't really see how federation makes it complicated, since you can friend anyone on any server without doing anything special. Is it just that they won't know which server to make an account on?
Matrix has gif support and can do voice calls if you configure it to do so. That being said, it isn't at all a one to one replacement for Discord, nor would I really want it to be. It's more like...
Matrix has gif support and can do voice calls if you configure it to do so. That being said, it isn't at all a one to one replacement for Discord, nor would I really want it to be. It's more like a federated open source Slack replacement.
Oh, I see, that's entirely different for a couple of reasons, but mostly because this is for Element, a specific client for Matrix, not Matrix itself. It's kind of weird that they put the issue on...
Oh, I see, that's entirely different for a couple of reasons, but mostly because this is for Element, a specific client for Matrix, not Matrix itself.
It's kind of weird that they put the issue on that repo since that is the "meta" repo that is mostly for documentation and covers the desktop and web versions of the, now deprecated, app. They probably should have put in the issue for the Android and/or iOS repo.
I have no idea if the Element X mobile apps, the Element "classic" apps, or any other Matrix client apps have a "gif keyboard" feature at this point since I only use Element from the desktop or web.
This project seems extremely vibe-coded. All the docs are written with that "it's not x, it's y" LLM style phrasing (seriously, nearly every single paragraph contains it, look at this page) and an ungodly amount of em-dashes. I like its emphasis on privacy and I think it's a fairly well-designed site overall, but honestly the fact that it's so obviously vibecoded (or at least created with heavy AI assistance) and isn't open-source or even source-available, is an instant no from me.
The dev commented about open-source. I also much prefer open-source, but I can understand not releasing it early (IIRC it was the same for tildes?) :
I'm a free software enthusiast on principle more than anything, but the modern state of AI-assisted programming has created a situation where avoiding proprietary software can be as much a necessary practical choice as an ideological one. Simply because with small websites like this one you have absolutely no idea what the backend looks like, and have no way of knowing about any potentially catastrophic security holes brought about by a vibe coder telling Claude "make this website extra secure here are my private keys please don't leak them". This is a problem with FOSS software too of course, but at least there you can look at the code and decide whether or not you want to use it, or even submit your own fixes.
There was an incident a while back with a small streaming app for self-hosted servers where it was discovered that you could just send it a single curl command and it would respond with the credentials for your entire media stack. It was vibe-coded so poorly that an unprivileged user could literally just ask it for all its passwords and it woud give you full access to the server. The developer was made aware of this issue (and many more equally horrifying ones) multiple times and actively removed discussion of it when it was brought up on their github/subreddit, and only when a user raised alarm bells on a half dozen big subreddits and it blew up did the issue get resolved. Well, the maintainer nuked the entire project off the internet; but still, resolved.
Imagine if that app had been proprietary. Worse still, think about how many proprietary programs there are out there that are made in essentially the same way as that vibe-coded media manager, with developers that are naive enough to think they're on top of things. Now, the issues with that app were enormous enough that they absolutely would have been found with or without the source code, but without the source code (and the frankly laughable state of the app that caused the public to react so strongly) it's unlikely that they would have all been discovered, yet alone fixed and disclosed in a timely manner.
I can respect a developer wanting to hold off on showing everyone their source code before they're satisfied with its quality, but I think with a privacy-focused social media website it's a strange choice. On a more philosophical point, I think part of the joy of free software is not having to bear the burden of all the design choices, all of the labour required to build a project, because other people can contribute to the project. For a social media site, a project entirely about collaboration with others, it really seems like a no-brainer to have it be free software. Of course, some amount of ownership of one's work needs to be given up when a project is open-sourced, and that can be a tough pill to swallow. A while back I had a big long conversation here about the blogging site Bear changing from FOSS to source-available, and while with hindsight I'd probably change the way I phrased a lot of stuff there (creesch had some very good points in opposition to mine), I can see some echoes of it in this situation.
It's all about trust at the end of the day, I suppose. Ultimately I don't trust any potentially vibe-coded project (which in today's world unfortunately means basically every project), and proprietary software is inherently untrustworthy, so a proprietary project that looks AI-generated raises alarm bells for me. I'd love to see this project open-sourced at some point, it does look pretty cool and I'm always on the lookout for alternative social media websites.
As a final note (I've rambled on for too long), using LLMs for translations is one of the uses of the tech that I can sorta begrudgingly accept. My general opinion of LLMs is that I wish they weren't a thing and I stubbornly refuse to use them on principle, but I accept there are valid uses for them in various situations and I can get why people would use them sometimes. Even with programming I think they are absolutely a useful tool - I use the term "vibe code" to refer to a project made basically entirely with AI where the "developer" doesn't really know how it works to begin with. I would always prefer a "luddite" solution to a problem over an AI-generated one, but for something like translations I'm not going to be too mad that they didn't find a human to do their site text. I do wish that they had, it would have read a lot better that way, but still.
I have no doubt this happens. But, I do want to push back on the thought that this has become an issue with vibe coded websites specifically.
Back in the early 2000s I was able to hack together my own blog/cms including a commenting system without really knowing what I was doing by just throwing together php snippets until it worked. On the front it looked (for the time) fairly fancy but looking back it was a complete security nightmare. Not even compared to modern practices and standards, by the standards of the time it was a complete mess.
And given what I have seen over the years there are many websites out there that are still like that. All without any LLM involvement.
It's the main reason why having unique passwords for services has been preached for ages. Because the reality is that websites do get compromised and things will leak. As an extra example, if I check https://haveibeenpwned.com the first entry for a leak where I was involved dates back to 2010.
I am sure vibecoding adds another whole layer to it. But I already did operate with very little trust towards anything requiring me to sign up.
There have always been websites out there with enormous security flaws, absolutely, and I don't mean to assert that AI coding is the root cause of security holes, or even an intrinsically flawed system. It's an extremely powerful and useful tool in the hands of people who know what they're doing. But I do think the introduction of AI coding and the subsequent lowering of the barrier of entry for software development has exacerbated the issue. AI has made it far easier for the average person with little to no programming chops to create a good-looking website from scratch, and with the bar for entry being that much lower I reckon it's had an impact on the overall quality of code, at least in the amateur scene.
Granted I have no hard data to back this up so perhaps I'm entirely wrong; I'm sure someone out there has run the numbers on the effect AI coding has had on the rate of vulnerabilities being discovered, but truthfully it's out of my area of expertise. I think of it less as a strict "websites pre-AI are mostly secure and websites made with AI are mostly trash" and more of a practical guideline I follow. When weighing up whether to get involved with a website or to start using an application, I look at the state of the project and the people in charge: If I see that they're amateurs making heavy use of AI code, it's an indicator to me that they might lack the expertise to make a stable and secure program. It's not a guarantee of course, nor is the lack of AI code a guarantee of quality, but it's a red flag.
Like you said, we really shouldn't implicitly trust any website with our data to begin with, open-source or not, AI-generated or otherwise. But it's all a compromise on the internet; fortunately we can be choosy with the programs we trust our data with, and good digital hygiene should be used no matter where you're signing up for.
Many people are completely off the mark about the skill level of humans when it comes to coding, and completely delusional about most people's ability to reason adversarially and understand security. I don't know that AI right now is making things net better, because AI is now allowing even more people who have no clue what they are doing to connect code to the internet but I regularly have interactions with claude / gemini that are way more helpful (especially review) than a typical interaction with another dev. Doesn't make me pleased to say that, but it's true.
Security awareness, even in professional software development is in my experience often lower than many people expect from the outside. Shockingly low even. Most of the breaches on haveibeenpwned where my mail is involved are for big companies, those who have security teams, policies, etc.
You are right that LLMs have brought the ability to create software with no prior knowledge much closer to many people. And they might have made things even worse. But overall it hasn't changed my perception on third party software and security implications is what I am saying.
Something I also suspect is very difficult to do properly do. At the very least you will see an insane amount of attempts at claimed CVEs which are effectively AI slop, more recently Anthropic has been making waves with actually CVEs being found by their models (the whole mythos thing if you have seen the news) so you might actually see a spike for that as well on the confirmed side of CVEs.
I had a go at creating stats based on the github advisory database. But it is quite difficult to draw conclusions as the amount of sources for it has changed over the years as well as the ecosystems monitored. What I do see is a big spike in the past two months which I suspect might be result of LLMs being used to audit code. But on a per month basis for the past 5 years or so I don't see any real trends up or down.
Of course, this is only vulnerabilities in published packages used as dependencies. It doesn't saw much about software in general.
Yup, this I very much agree with.
I was also managing a forum back in the days (15-20 years ago), and alongside some questionable php we also never kept up properly the software (Simple Machines Forum) up-to-date, so the thing is probably full of holes. It's still up and running somehow (I guess being a small obscure helps a lot).
The Tildes source code was released about three months after the site launched
I wish people would just be upfront about their vibe coded projects. ‘I didn’t write this and might not be able to update it… but okay with it until it crumbles’
In a few communities I run, I have a blanket ‘no software’ rule since they were both flooded with shit apps that could be a spreadsheet.
The first thing the website did as I scrolled down to see what it's about was interrupt me with a login prompt. That instantly killed any interest I may have had for this.
I got the same thing. You can close the prompt and carry on looking without registering.
This looks really interesting and is exactly what I've been looking for. That being said, there are some things that bug me. Firstly, there is no information about this site/app anywhere else beside this website, and additionally it talks a lot about it being a good alternative to reddit etc. but there is no concrete list of what actually is implemented and what isn't. There's an iOS store button and an app store button on the home page but the android one is greyed out, I'm guessing it's iOS first/web second for now because of development ease.
Secondly: It took me a while to find the version notes; if you click the version number on the left side it will open a window with two posts, one from a month ago and one from two months ago. There are a ton of mistakes in those notes, even though the rest of the website is quite well-written.
I will keep an eye on this, and I really do hope that this will become what it has set out to become because I so desperately am tired of the shenanigans that reddit and discord are doing. Still, this project is not as transparent as they want to make it seem, presumably to mask the project being very recently started, which I understand. Kudos to them for doing this.
If you click on the site name in the top left there's a bit more info. But it seems to be a single dev from Italy (maybe explain some of the mistakes with the text) so there's probably a lot of bugs (I already saw some...) and risk of stalling (specially since it doesn't seem open source at the moment).
https://surikata.app/from/reddit
I guess they're the only part written by an actual human
hm...it looks like a clone of the cyberspace.online
Indeed, looks like cyberspace.online is not open source so they must have copied the interface. Maybe I should join the original instead, is it any good ?
i have mixed feelings about that site, to be honest. just didn't understand what I could do there. maybe you'll figure that out
I really, really dig the aesthetics, but after putzing around for a few minutes, I can see the "vibe coded" quality, specifically with what I think was the "about this site" page.
Scrolling queue cards that roll off screen, all of which on an overlay and a "dead image" symbol on the top left corner, and a close button on the right that doesn't close, and the mission statement about said website is all just mindless business-yammering about the qualia of meerkats.
Really do dig the aesthetics though.
I'm not affiliated with them and I don't want to turn away people from tildes, but I like the overall feel of this platform. There's a ton (more nowadays with Claude helping) of reddit clones but most of them are boring and don't have much soul. This one feels a bit more unique, and with integrated IRC, private subs, and quite a lot of features it could be interesting. The integrated terminal-based music streaming app seems cool too.
It reminds me of a text-based RPG I played a bit a long time ago somehow.
TBH Tildes doesn't really aspire to be a full reddit clone. The site would fall apart under the weight of a gigantic userbase, especially one that encouraged fluff instead of discussion.
This seems a fun supplement, thanks for sharing!
I wonder why matrix gets such little traction as a discord alternative. It's actually open source and encrypted and very discord like. That one seems to be closed source, it seems like if it gains traction it will just be a matter of time before enshitification hits.
Matrix still has enough velocity (presumably due to funding from actual clients) that some of this is still out of date - which is surprising, but potentially a good problem to have?
It does - both "Start a call" type of voice chat, and "Wander in and out of a voice-only room" type voice chat. "New Conversation > New Video Room" will get you there
Per the wiki you mentioned, there's also been lots of work on their points. Synapse, presumably driven partly out of Matrix's self-interest (I.E., keeping their public server hosting cost lower) has gotten leaner. Their description of clients suggests it's been some time since the review was written (I'd guess ~early 2025), as ElementX is juuuust this side of complete. For example, support for Spaces just shipped. Their other "Sometimes things are slow and/or broken" also suggests they were using the older, much less performant Element client, and I'd assume at least partially on the (overloaded) Matrix.org homeserver.
Though between the old data, missing that the different choices made between XMPP and Matrix means different difficulties at different points, and obtusely deciding not to recognize the system design means each server is an authoritative server, I'm getting more annoyed by the paragraph - so I'm bailing at:
There are reasons XMPP never took off, and some of those are the same reason Matrix is acceptable to organizations like NATO, while XMPP is not.
From a user perspective I don't really see how federation makes it complicated, since you can friend anyone on any server without doing anything special. Is it just that they won't know which server to make an account on?
Matrix has gif support and can do voice calls if you configure it to do so. That being said, it isn't at all a one to one replacement for Discord, nor would I really want it to be. It's more like a federated open source Slack replacement.
Oh, I see, that's entirely different for a couple of reasons, but mostly because this is for Element, a specific client for Matrix, not Matrix itself.
It's kind of weird that they put the issue on that repo since that is the "meta" repo that is mostly for documentation and covers the desktop and web versions of the, now deprecated, app. They probably should have put in the issue for the Android and/or iOS repo.
I have no idea if the Element X mobile apps, the Element "classic" apps, or any other Matrix client apps have a "gif keyboard" feature at this point since I only use Element from the desktop or web.