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An AI researcher writes about his crisis of faith

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  1. skybrian
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    From the blog post: [...] [...]

    From the blog post:

    Even if the nightmare scenario of full human redundance is not imminent, the fact that a considerable number of people claim that this is their goal is unsettling. This view is perhaps most succinctly stated by the startup Mechanize, which aims to “fully automate the economy”. As a participant in the economy, I find this goal deeply objectionable. I think that trying to fully replace all human labor is not a morally acceptable goal to have. It’s frankly horrifying. To be clear, “fully automate the economy” means “destroy society as we know it”. Unfortunately, similar goals are articulated by quite a few inside and outside Silicon Valley. I think the callousness of such objectives should be called out whenever they are encountered.

    The great irony of this is that those who claim to want to automate all human labor are typically the kind of competitive, smart, high-agency persons who absolutely need to have a purpose and something to build. They would hate to be redundant. Yet, here they fly, like so many moths to a flame.

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    Why didn't I just quit AI research? My predicament would seem like that of a vegan butcher, or a monk who makes money on Onlyfans. But me quitting and becoming an Uber driver would not make the world better. The pace of AI progress would clearly not slow down noticeably. And I assure you, I still love AI research, even if I sometimes hate what AI does to the world. I'm not even very good at anything else. AI is what I do. And I think that I can do more good by trying to steer my field in a good direction than if I became an Uber driver. So I’d rather think of myself as akin to a hypochondriac doctor, or a pilot with a fear of heights.

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    From this perspective, the history of AI is a history of attempts to mimic the specific combination of behaviors and capabilities that humans have; most of them successful in some way, but all of them quite different to humans. The onslaught of LLMs becomes a push in a particular capability direction. Understanding that direction becomes crucial to figuring out which types of human intellectual patterns and capabilities will become more important in the future. Where the new domains of human excellence will appear. But this understanding can also help us develop different types of AI that are more complementary to what humans can do and like to do. Seeing intelligence as a scalar, where machines can overtake humans, is a recipe for paralysis; dissolving this faulty notion gives us the freedom to act. More of this argument in the article I linked above; what's important here is that there are things that can be done. Indeed, there's a lot to do. Such as building mechanisms for meaningfully incorporating humans in creative search processes, and open-ended learning and discovery processes that are not based on imitating what humans do.

    But not everything has a technical fix. Norms, structures, and laws are probably more important. I still think that trying to automate humans out of the processes that give them, and our civilization, meaning is immoral. We need to build counter-narratives, and be vocal that "fully automating the economy" is not an acceptable goal to work towards. We also need to push hard to counter the centralization of power that so easily comes with lavishly funded tech companies trying to achieve monopolies on some layers of the AI stack. Our best bet for a future where we all matter is one with a myriad different forms of intelligence, open and accessible for all to use as tools for our natural intelligences. Let's get to work.

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    MustangCamaro
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    A.I. proponents never talk about automating away their own jobs & the news media never asks them that question.

    A.I. proponents never talk about automating away their own jobs & the news media never asks them that question.

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    1. BigBadWolf
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      This isn't necessarily true, for better or for worse. Google's top scientist (like, THE guy who made Google Search and Translate) recently left to make an AI firm focused on automating AI...

      This isn't necessarily true, for better or for worse. Google's top scientist (like, THE guy who made Google Search and Translate) recently left to make an AI firm focused on automating AI research.

      To what end? According to their marketing material, automating and accelerating science itself. It sounds laudable, but...well, we can really only hope it ends well.

      ETA: Discussion here on Jeff Dean's departure.

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    2. Greg
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      Really? Maybe it’s my bubble, but I’ve heard a ton of developers in the field discussing the various paths we see future dev work taking, with theories anywhere from “there will be even more human...

      Really? Maybe it’s my bubble, but I’ve heard a ton of developers in the field discussing the various paths we see future dev work taking, with theories anywhere from “there will be even more human dev work a couple of years when slop code works its way into critical systems and starts imploding”, through “we need architects, but half the jobs are going to be gone soon and nobody’s training juniors anymore”, and right up to “fuck it, I’m off to become an HVAC tech”.

      And to put my cards on the table here: I want my job automated away, assuming a machine can do it well enough. We don’t need jobs, we need purpose and we need the means of acquiring food and shelter. The former I can find for myself, and if it really comes to it I’d rather fight tooth and nail for equitable distribution of the latter than waste my life emulating something a computer can (in this hypothetical) do just as well because I’m forced to facilitate some cargo cult justification of wealth distribution.

  3. teaearlgraycold
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    I’ve long anticipated a future where humans need to do no work. It’s called post-scarcity and could very well be the beginning of the best phase of human existence. What no one wants is to be the...

    nobody wants this

    I’ve long anticipated a future where humans need to do no work. It’s called post-scarcity and could very well be the beginning of the best phase of human existence. What no one wants is to be the generation that lives through the transition. Some countries, small and wealthy ones, may jump right to the end game once the process begins. Others will languish.

    What do we do when we don’t need to work a job? We can take care of each other with all of that free time. It may be the means by which the frequency of abuse, abandonment, and illness speed towards 0.

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