There's a lot of things to complain about with Apple, but I think they've done a good job here. I know a lot of people still want the 5s form factor, but for people who've been holding onto a 6s...
There's a lot of things to complain about with Apple, but I think they've done a good job here. I know a lot of people still want the 5s form factor, but for people who've been holding onto a 6s or 7, this seems like a really nice upgrade at a very reasonable price.
Anecdotally, just showed it to one of my (very non-techy) friends, who still uses a 6s, and she got excited about the possibility of upgrading to it. So I'm guessing Apple will do decently well on sales.
I'm so sad. I held onto my 7 for 3 years until I couldn't get it to charge anymore, then tried to replace the lighting port, fucked it up and broke it and bought a used 10 a couple months ago. I...
I'm so sad. I held onto my 7 for 3 years until I couldn't get it to charge anymore, then tried to replace the lighting port, fucked it up and broke it and bought a used 10 a couple months ago. I was holding out for this exact announcement and just barely missed it :(
That's really too bad. How do you feel about the X in comparison to the 7? I had a 6s until the fall and upgraded to an 11 after the 6s got a bit slow for my liking and took a nasty scratch to the...
That's really too bad. How do you feel about the X in comparison to the 7? I had a 6s until the fall and upgraded to an 11 after the 6s got a bit slow for my liking and took a nasty scratch to the screen. It kinda sucked getting used to FaceID and the larger screen at first, but now I'm a fan of the 11 for sure.
Its fine. Its a phone. I don't really use my phone in ways that super stretch it to the limits so I don't really mind it being old-ish. The biggest thing I miss (and the biggest reason I'm pissed...
Its fine. Its a phone. I don't really use my phone in ways that super stretch it to the limits so I don't really mind it being old-ish. The biggest thing I miss (and the biggest reason I'm pissed about the SE2) is the home button. I just don't feel as comfortable without it. Battery life is fine, I got the 128G so I never have to worry about my photos or music library eating up too much space. But all I really do on my phone is scroll twitter and tildes via the web browser, snapchat, iMessage, and some sports scores apps. Never had any problems getting through a full day with the battery. Usually can get 2-3 days out of it during quarantine when I'm barely using it.
I appreciate you sharing your opinion. Loved this bit: Sometimes I wonder if all of us put a bit too much effort into worrying about machines that we just end up using for that list of things most...
I appreciate you sharing your opinion. Loved this bit:
But all I really do on my phone is scroll twitter and tildes via the web browser, snapchat, iMessage, and some sports scores apps.
Sometimes I wonder if all of us put a bit too much effort into worrying about machines that we just end up using for that list of things most of the time...
I’ve been coming more and more to that realization for a while. Before my iPhone 7 I was an adamant Android user, with most of the reason I wanted one being I could get similar specs to an iPhone,...
I’ve been coming more and more to that realization for a while. Before my iPhone 7 I was an adamant Android user, with most of the reason I wanted one being I could get similar specs to an iPhone, but it was way more customizable and a bit easier to root if I wanted. Eventually I realized I had been getting cutting-edge android phones for years and I wasn’t doing any customizations, I wasn’t rooting, I wasn’t doing any app development. I wasn’t making any use out of all the things I touted that made Android better. So I switched to an iPhone 7 to try it out, and I liked the iPhone more and almost everything was how I would want it OOB. I’ve been iPhone ever since and now am trying to scale back how much I spend on my phone bc I’m never going to use most the features or push resource utilization.
Your story sounds a lot like mine with tech in general. For a long, long time, I took the hard route on everything because I figured I might want to customize x, y, or z down the road. Within the...
Your story sounds a lot like mine with tech in general. For a long, long time, I took the hard route on everything because I figured I might want to customize x, y, or z down the road. Within the last year or two, I had something of a realization that all of it is, at its core, just a tool to get things done. At a certain point, having the tool just work right out of the box is worth more than theoretical customization possibilities down the road to me.
Off-topic rant: I can't make sense of these iPhone naming schemes anymore, not too long ago I was browsing refurbished phones and I was having a really rough time determining which phones belonged...
Off-topic rant: I can't make sense of these iPhone naming schemes anymore, not too long ago I was browsing refurbished phones and I was having a really rough time determining which phones belonged to which generation with all the divergent price points and versions-of-versions. Would it really be so bad to call this the "iPhone 11S" or something? Or the SE 2?
The confusion really comes in once they started having "Pro" lines of phones. Now it makes more sense to think of the iPhone as 3 distinct product lines: The SE, The iPhone, and The iPhone Pro....
The confusion really comes in once they started having "Pro" lines of phones. Now it makes more sense to think of the iPhone as 3 distinct product lines: The SE, The iPhone, and The iPhone Pro.
Within those lines it's generally bigger number = better and + means bigger screen.
The SE doesn't have a 2 just because the SE1 isn't sold anymore.
I see. The confusion first started for me with the release of 8 and X around the same time, skipping 9 for the 10-year anniversary, then switching from XS nomenclature to XR and throwing Max in...
I see. The confusion first started for me with the release of 8 and X around the same time, skipping 9 for the 10-year anniversary, then switching from XS nomenclature to XR and throwing Max in there too.
Yeah no I totally see where the confusion came from. I was actually confused when you mentioned pro vs plus and had to go look it up on the iphone wikipedia page. More evidence to your point that...
Yeah no I totally see where the confusion came from. I was actually confused when you mentioned pro vs plus and had to go look it up on the iphone wikipedia page. More evidence to your point that people cant easily keep it straight.
It's an Apple press release. It feels weird to have them make an announcement like this via press release though. I would have figured some kind of keynote or introduction video. But no mentions...
It's an Apple press release. It feels weird to have them make an announcement like this via press release though. I would have figured some kind of keynote or introduction video. But no mentions of al-u-minium in sight. . .
If I were to guess, they don't really want people to buy this one - as in, they'll take your $399 if the only option is that or nothing, but in general they want to advertise and hype the models...
If I were to guess, they don't really want people to buy this one - as in, they'll take your $399 if the only option is that or nothing, but in general they want to advertise and hype the models that are 2-3x the price.
A press release and coverage on every major gadget and tech site. They can easily assume they're going to be front page news on sites like that. For more mainstream buyers who just walk into the...
A press release and coverage on every major gadget and tech site. They can easily assume they're going to be front page news on sites like that. For more mainstream buyers who just walk into the phone store and buy what's on sale (and I'd imagine those people are the bulk of the market for this phone), they don't need to know about it until they walk into the phone store and the salesperson tells them it's the newest and best iPhone for only $400.
That said - I'm guessing that if things were normal, they might have done an event in the on campus media hall but who knows. I doubt they'd do this same rollout for a new flagship product like the iPhone 12.
I'd also guess that they don't really care too much about this model. It's just there to replace the older phones as they age out. Like @Greg said, they'd much rather you buy an iPhone 11 Pro.
I'm devastated. I was desperately hoping they would keep the same small size so I could upgrade from my current SE. I have no interest in this phone. Personally, the physical size is the biggest...
I'm devastated.
I was desperately hoping they would keep the same small size so I could upgrade from my current SE.
I have no interest in this phone.
Personally, the physical size is the biggest detractor of user experience.
I know this doesn't seem to be a popular opinion, but I would pay 2-4x the price for 50% the battery life if it would just be small again like it used to.
I got my mother in law a 5S and every time I hold it I'm like "Man. . . it feels so nice to be able to reach everything without any awkward fumbling." But at the same time, it is nice to be able...
I got my mother in law a 5S and every time I hold it I'm like "Man. . . it feels so nice to be able to reach everything without any awkward fumbling."
But at the same time, it is nice to be able to read books, comics, and long articles on the bigger screen. I'm really torn about it. In a perfect world we'd all have Westworld style folding screens without the suckitude of the actual folding screen phones we have.
That's likely where Apple is headed, hence the introduction of AR and LIDAR sensors in the new iPad (and probably the next iPhones as well). I don't expect we'd see cool AR lenses for another 3 to...
That's likely where Apple is headed, hence the introduction of AR and LIDAR sensors in the new iPad (and probably the next iPhones as well). I don't expect we'd see cool AR lenses for another 3 to 5 years though, and even then it'll probably take another 3 to 5 years on top of that before they become as useful and full-featured as our phones are.
High time to trawl for those used-in-good-condition old SEs. I like my 5C a lot – in part because my sister gave it away for free because she was upgrading. Old SE is much better because of its...
High time to trawl for those used-in-good-condition old SEs. I like my 5C a lot – in part because my sister gave it away for free because she was upgrading. Old SE is much better because of its angled frame. No slidey edge has ever enticed me as those SE angles.
There's a lot of things to complain about with Apple, but I think they've done a good job here. I know a lot of people still want the 5s form factor, but for people who've been holding onto a 6s or 7, this seems like a really nice upgrade at a very reasonable price.
Anecdotally, just showed it to one of my (very non-techy) friends, who still uses a 6s, and she got excited about the possibility of upgrading to it. So I'm guessing Apple will do decently well on sales.
I'm so sad. I held onto my 7 for 3 years until I couldn't get it to charge anymore, then tried to replace the lighting port, fucked it up and broke it and bought a used 10 a couple months ago. I was holding out for this exact announcement and just barely missed it :(
I bought a new phone back in June and I'm also sad that I missed this, even though it's nearly been a year. You're not alone! <3
That's really too bad. How do you feel about the X in comparison to the 7? I had a 6s until the fall and upgraded to an 11 after the 6s got a bit slow for my liking and took a nasty scratch to the screen. It kinda sucked getting used to FaceID and the larger screen at first, but now I'm a fan of the 11 for sure.
Its fine. Its a phone. I don't really use my phone in ways that super stretch it to the limits so I don't really mind it being old-ish. The biggest thing I miss (and the biggest reason I'm pissed about the SE2) is the home button. I just don't feel as comfortable without it. Battery life is fine, I got the 128G so I never have to worry about my photos or music library eating up too much space. But all I really do on my phone is scroll twitter and tildes via the web browser, snapchat, iMessage, and some sports scores apps. Never had any problems getting through a full day with the battery. Usually can get 2-3 days out of it during quarantine when I'm barely using it.
I appreciate you sharing your opinion. Loved this bit:
Sometimes I wonder if all of us put a bit too much effort into worrying about machines that we just end up using for that list of things most of the time...
I’ve been coming more and more to that realization for a while. Before my iPhone 7 I was an adamant Android user, with most of the reason I wanted one being I could get similar specs to an iPhone, but it was way more customizable and a bit easier to root if I wanted. Eventually I realized I had been getting cutting-edge android phones for years and I wasn’t doing any customizations, I wasn’t rooting, I wasn’t doing any app development. I wasn’t making any use out of all the things I touted that made Android better. So I switched to an iPhone 7 to try it out, and I liked the iPhone more and almost everything was how I would want it OOB. I’ve been iPhone ever since and now am trying to scale back how much I spend on my phone bc I’m never going to use most the features or push resource utilization.
Your story sounds a lot like mine with tech in general. For a long, long time, I took the hard route on everything because I figured I might want to customize x, y, or z down the road. Within the last year or two, I had something of a realization that all of it is, at its core, just a tool to get things done. At a certain point, having the tool just work right out of the box is worth more than theoretical customization possibilities down the road to me.
Off-topic rant: I can't make sense of these iPhone naming schemes anymore, not too long ago I was browsing refurbished phones and I was having a really rough time determining which phones belonged to which generation with all the divergent price points and versions-of-versions. Would it really be so bad to call this the "iPhone 11S" or something? Or the SE 2?
The confusion really comes in once they started having "Pro" lines of phones. Now it makes more sense to think of the iPhone as 3 distinct product lines: The SE, The iPhone, and The iPhone Pro.
Within those lines it's generally bigger number = better and + means bigger screen.
The SE doesn't have a 2 just because the SE1 isn't sold anymore.
Knowing how Apple products usually go by it'll just unofficially be called "iPhone SE (2020)".
See also: the two iPad Pro versions
There’s a pro line? I always thought it was plus. Now I’m confused.
They use to do plus line until iphone 11, and now instead of iphone 11 plus it is iphone 11 pro
I see. The confusion first started for me with the release of 8 and X around the same time, skipping 9 for the 10-year anniversary, then switching from XS nomenclature to XR and throwing Max in there too.
Yeah no I totally see where the confusion came from. I was actually confused when you mentioned pro vs plus and had to go look it up on the iphone wikipedia page. More evidence to your point that people cant easily keep it straight.
It's an Apple press release. It feels weird to have them make an announcement like this via press release though. I would have figured some kind of keynote or introduction video. But no mentions of al-u-minium in sight. . .
If I were to guess, they don't really want people to buy this one - as in, they'll take your $399 if the only option is that or nothing, but in general they want to advertise and hype the models that are 2-3x the price.
Maybe production (in China) still isn't at 100% and they'd rather lower demand?
A press release and coverage on every major gadget and tech site. They can easily assume they're going to be front page news on sites like that. For more mainstream buyers who just walk into the phone store and buy what's on sale (and I'd imagine those people are the bulk of the market for this phone), they don't need to know about it until they walk into the phone store and the salesperson tells them it's the newest and best iPhone for only $400.
That said - I'm guessing that if things were normal, they might have done an event in the on campus media hall but who knows. I doubt they'd do this same rollout for a new flagship product like the iPhone 12.
I'd also guess that they don't really care too much about this model. It's just there to replace the older phones as they age out. Like @Greg said, they'd much rather you buy an iPhone 11 Pro.
I'm devastated.
I was desperately hoping they would keep the same small size so I could upgrade from my current SE.
I have no interest in this phone.
Personally, the physical size is the biggest detractor of user experience.
I know this doesn't seem to be a popular opinion, but I would pay 2-4x the price for 50% the battery life if it would just be small again like it used to.
I got my mother in law a 5S and every time I hold it I'm like "Man. . . it feels so nice to be able to reach everything without any awkward fumbling."
But at the same time, it is nice to be able to read books, comics, and long articles on the bigger screen. I'm really torn about it. In a perfect world we'd all have Westworld style folding screens without the suckitude of the actual folding screen phones we have.
In a perfect world we'd have AR with minimal physical screens.
That's likely where Apple is headed, hence the introduction of AR and LIDAR sensors in the new iPad (and probably the next iPhones as well). I don't expect we'd see cool AR lenses for another 3 to 5 years though, and even then it'll probably take another 3 to 5 years on top of that before they become as useful and full-featured as our phones are.
It's rumored that one of the flagships shipping this fall will be smaller than any of the current iPhones, so there is still hope.
High time to trawl for those used-in-good-condition old SEs. I like my 5C a lot – in part because my sister gave it away for free because she was upgrading. Old SE is much better because of its angled frame. No slidey edge has ever enticed me as those SE angles.
It's giving me serious Pixel 3a vibes, it's as if that and an iPhone 6 had a child together, IMO.