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Does anyone know how many users have been banned from Tildes?

Posted by BartHarleyJarvis
Tags: ask.discussion, users, bans, rules

I was looking through some old posts this afternoon and noticed several users posted but had since been banned. I was wondering if anyone knows the approximate number of users that have been banned and what the most common reasons were.

17 comments

  1. [9]
    Minori
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    I could be wrong, but I feel like more privacy conscious posters have deleted their accounts than users have been banned.

    I could be wrong, but I feel like more privacy conscious posters have deleted their accounts than users have been banned.

    31 votes
    1. [8]
      vord
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      Just as an an observer, I think I can count on one hand the number of seasoned community members whom have been fully banned and not just given a time out. My gut says there have certainly been...

      Just as an an observer, I think I can count on one hand the number of seasoned community members whom have been fully banned and not just given a time out.

      My gut says there have certainly been many more than that, but most of them get filtered early on. Newbies don't get as much benefit of the doubt.

      18 votes
      1. [7]
        BeanBurrito
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        If true, that would be wrong. It should not be a matter of shoot first and ask questions later. Not a way to be "social" on social media.

        If true, that would be wrong. It should not be a matter of shoot first and ask questions later. Not a way to be "social" on social media.

        1 vote
        1. cfabbro
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          Hard, hard, hard disagree. If someone joins Tildes and within the first few months they do or say something ban-worthy, rather than taking some time to get a feel for what is/isn't considered...

          Hard, hard, hard disagree. If someone joins Tildes and within the first few months they do or say something ban-worthy, rather than taking some time to get a feel for what is/isn't considered appropriate behavior here, I think there is very little hope that user will ever be a decent community member. And if someone is truly repentant they can always appeal to Deimos privately to get unbanned, which has actually happened a few times over the years.

          But especially during the big migration waves, giving all the assholish new users any leeway is likely to just drive away the nicest users who we actually want to keep around. Eevee's On a Technicality blog post (which Deimos has linked to many times over the years) covers this subject quite well and is absolutely worth reading in full, IMO. However, this part is especially relevant:

          There are some nice people in the world. I mean nice people, the sort I couldn’t describe myself as. People who are friends with everyone, who are somehow never involved in any argument, who seem content to spend their time drawing pictures of bumblebees on flowers that make everyone happy.

          Those people are great to have around. You want to hold onto them as much as you can.

          But people only have so much tolerance for jerkiness, and really nice people often have less tolerance than the rest of us.

          The trouble with not ejecting a jerk — whether their shenanigans are deliberate or incidental — is that you allow the average jerkiness of the community to rise slightly. The higher it goes, the more likely it is that those really nice people will come around less often, or stop coming around at all. That, in turn, makes the average jerkiness rise even more, which teaches the original jerk that their behavior is acceptable and makes your community more appealing to other jerks. Meanwhile, more people at the nice end of the scale are drifting away.

          And this goes for a community of any size, though it may take more jerks to significantly affect a very large platform.

          42 votes
        2. [5]
          vord
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          Not sure I'm grokking you. Everyone has a bad day, gets in a heated discussion sometimes. It's only when it's recurring that it's a bad problem, and the longer you've been around, the more fair it...

          Not sure I'm grokking you.

          Everyone has a bad day, gets in a heated discussion sometimes. It's only when it's recurring that it's a bad problem, and the longer you've been around, the more fair it is to not hard ban unless it's bad or recurring.

          New members who don't acclimate to the culture generally don't last long.

          3 votes
          1. [4]
            BeanBurrito
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            I can't use the term grok since Musk hijacked it. You did misunderstand me. I added a few words to clarify. I agree with you. I have seen people banned right out of the gate, without any...

            I can't use the term grok since Musk hijacked it. You did misunderstand me. I added a few words to clarify. I agree with you. I have seen people banned right out of the gate, without any communication being done first.

            6 votes
            1. [3]
              vord
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              One advantage to ignoring Musk for years is that I can still enjoy using grok like it's Slashdot circa 2003.

              One advantage to ignoring Musk for years is that I can still enjoy using grok like it's Slashdot circa 2003.

              18 votes
              1. [2]
                BeanBurrito
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                I like the way Heinlein used it when he the created word for his novel "Stranger In A Strange Land".

                I like the way Heinlein used it when he the created word for his novel "Stranger In A Strange Land".

                3 votes
                1. chocobean
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                  we should take back the term! He doesn't own it, even if he thinks he owns most things. I didn't know it was from a 1961 sci fi novel: thanks, today I learned.

                  we should take back the term! He doesn't own it, even if he thinks he owns most things. I didn't know it was from a 1961 sci fi novel: thanks, today I learned.

                  5 votes
  2. creesch
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    Only deimos will have that data and besides maybe some superficial metrics I doubt he really will be sharing details.

    Only deimos will have that data and besides maybe some superficial metrics I doubt he really will be sharing details.

    10 votes
  3. Mendanbar
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    To your secondary question about common reasons for banning I'd be willing to bet most violated the code of conduct in one way or another.

    To your secondary question about common reasons for banning I'd be willing to bet most violated the code of conduct in one way or another.

    9 votes
  5. [5]
    BeanBurrito
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    BartHartleyJarvis, what indicated to you that they were banned? As Minori wrote a number of users deleted their posts and their accounts for various reasons.

    BartHartleyJarvis, what indicated to you that they were banned? As Minori wrote a number of users deleted their posts and their accounts for various reasons.

    1 vote
    1. [4]
      CannibalisticApple
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      Clicking on their username brings up a page saying "This user is banned." Or at least, it does for the two banned users I know of.

      Clicking on their username brings up a page saying "This user is banned." Or at least, it does for the two banned users I know of.

      5 votes
      1. [3]
        hungariantoast
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        Yeah if someone's account was deleted it will say something different. Example: https://tildes.net/user/tindall I guess in theory a user who wants to delete their account could also ask Deimos to...

        Yeah if someone's account was deleted it will say something different. Example: https://tildes.net/user/tindall

        I guess in theory a user who wants to delete their account could also ask Deimos to ban that account so it can't be re-registered, but I've got a feeling that doesn't happen often.

        3 votes
        1. [2]
          CannibalisticApple
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          Now you've got me curious if anyone has used a username that was previously deleted. Especially if it was someone else trying to impersonate that original user. Highly unlikely with such a small a...

          Now you've got me curious if anyone has used a username that was previously deleted. Especially if it was someone else trying to impersonate that original user. Highly unlikely with such a small a community, but I'm still curious.

          1 vote
          1. cfabbro
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            I don't believe that's possible, since I'm pretty sure nobody can register a new account using a previously deleted or banned username. Over the years a few users who deleted their accounts have...

            I don't believe that's possible, since I'm pretty sure nobody can register a new account using a previously deleted or banned username. Over the years a few users who deleted their accounts have requested to come back though, and Deimos has restored their accounts for them after they verified who they were.

            14 votes