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Dropout TV price change announced - FAQ linked

41 comments

  1. [4]
    fefellama
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    Still seems like superb value for the amount of quality content they provide, even at the updated price.

    So long as you have an existing Dropout subscription before May 7th, 2025, you will not see any price change and continue to have “legacy pricing” at the rate and level of subscription you have been paying.

    The cost of a monthly subscription is increasing from $5.99 / month to $6.99 / month.

    The cost of an annual subscription is increasing from $59.99 / year to $69.99 / year (which is still less than $6/month on average)

    So if you are currently on a monthly subscription and do not plan on leaving Dropout, you would be wise to upgrade to an annual subscription (at $59.99, the equivalent of $5/month) to lock that in for legacy pricing.

    Still seems like superb value for the amount of quality content they provide, even at the updated price.

    28 votes
    1. Requirement
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      I think especially as they continue to build out their backlog with high quality content, the price really makes sense, especially if you can pay for annual subscription.

      I think especially as they continue to build out their backlog with high quality content, the price really makes sense, especially if you can pay for annual subscription.

      8 votes
    2. DefinitelyNotAFae
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      It absolutely is, I am still paying a slightly lower annual amount but I almost want to cancel and resub at the higher one.

      It absolutely is, I am still paying a slightly lower annual amount but I almost want to cancel and resub at the higher one.

      6 votes
    3. Inanimate
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      Yeah, when I saw the headline I was marginally worried, but this is not only an incredibly fair increase to the price, but they are also being quite generous by keeping legacy subscription prices!

      Yeah, when I saw the headline I was marginally worried, but this is not only an incredibly fair increase to the price, but they are also being quite generous by keeping legacy subscription prices!

      6 votes
  2. [5]
    koopa
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    This seems like an important point. You keep the pricing until your credit card expires.

    This also means you cannot update your subscription information at all - including your payment option, so please be sure that your credit card / payment information is up to date and not in danger of expiring anytime soon!

    This seems like an important point. You keep the pricing until your credit card expires.

    17 votes
    1. Zorind
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      Good news update! That is (now) incorrect, and they updated the FAQ and posted on Bluesky about it. You can change payment method and keep the legacy pricing, only changing your subscription term...

      Good news update! That is (now) incorrect, and they updated the FAQ and posted on Bluesky about it. You can change payment method and keep the legacy pricing, only changing your subscription term or cancelling/letting it expire will result in the legacy pricing go away.

      Note: Previously a version of this response included information saying that changing your payment method would result in losing your legacy pricing. This was incorrect - you'll only lose legacy pricing if you let your subscription expire/cancel or try to change your subscription term.

      12 votes
    2. [3]
      AndreasChris
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      Do they offer payment options other than credit card?

      Do they offer payment options other than credit card?

      2 votes
      1. [2]
        turmacar
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        Google Pay it looks like, but I believe that still makes you tie it to a specific card? It's nice that it's delayed until the card expires at least. For me that's 2028. Frankly it would have to...

        Google Pay it looks like, but I believe that still makes you tie it to a specific card? It's nice that it's delayed until the card expires at least. For me that's 2028.

        Frankly it would have to increase a lot more for me to think about cancelling. It's the last streaming service I'm willing to pay for.

        3 votes
        1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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          Plus paying through app stores sucks some of the money away. It looks like only a card here, as I just checked, but you also get your first year at the 47.99 as an introductory rate. That is my...

          Plus paying through app stores sucks some of the money away.

          It looks like only a card here, as I just checked, but you also get your first year at the 47.99 as an introductory rate. That is my locked in rate so highly encourage folks to go for it if they can.

  3. [14]
    Inanimate
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    I initially picked up Dropout just to check out Game Changer, which I knew was 100% up my alley - and it was! But since then, I've discovered so many other great series, such as Make Some Noise,...

    I initially picked up Dropout just to check out Game Changer, which I knew was 100% up my alley - and it was! But since then, I've discovered so many other great series, such as Make Some Noise, Um Actually, Smartypants, Very Important People, and more... It's a really wonderful service that I'm happy to support, for a price barely above that of many Patreons! I can't recommend it enough to any fans of improv comedy, or intelligent and interesting game / comedy shows. Game Changer ALONE was worth the price!

    13 votes
    1. [6]
      semsevfor
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      Game Changer was my gateway as well. I've been wanting to branch out and watch more of their stuff, seen a fair amount of the ones you listed except VIP, what's the one about?

      Game Changer was my gateway as well. I've been wanting to branch out and watch more of their stuff, seen a fair amount of the ones you listed except VIP, what's the one about?

      7 votes
      1. [5]
        Inanimate
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        VIP is a show where Vic Michaelis interviews various cast members of Dropout, and guest stars. Except the twist is, each guest is put into an elaborate costume, which they don't know about...

        VIP is a show where Vic Michaelis interviews various cast members of Dropout, and guest stars. Except the twist is, each guest is put into an elaborate costume, which they don't know about beforehand. They then have to craft a persona and character based on their costume, on the fly. It's really funny!

        I'd recommend the Season 1 episode "Denzel" as a great introduction to the kind of humor the show generates, it's one of the best and is a great encapsulation of the general premise and typical insanity of the show.

        5 votes
        1. [2]
          frowns
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          VIP was my gateway for sure. LOVE Vic Michaelis — they’re a frequent guest on the improv podcast Comedy Bang! Bang! and they’ve never once done a character that flopped. I’d also recommend the VIP...

          VIP was my gateway for sure. LOVE Vic Michaelis — they’re a frequent guest on the improv podcast Comedy Bang! Bang! and they’ve never once done a character that flopped. I’d also recommend the VIP episode with Lisa Gilroy playing Vic’s ex step grandmother. I could barely breathe.

          1 vote
          1. Inanimate
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            Ooh, I need to check out Comedy Bang Bang again. I loved the show, but never dipped into the podcast. Thanksf or the reminder!

            Ooh, I need to check out Comedy Bang Bang again. I loved the show, but never dipped into the podcast. Thanksf or the reminder!

            1 vote
        2. [2]
          semsevfor
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          Excellent, thanks! I'll check it out

          Excellent, thanks! I'll check it out

          1 vote
    2. [2]
      TheRTV
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      Same! Dirty Laundry quickly became my second favorite. Though Parlor Room looks like it's gonna be great!

      Same! Dirty Laundry quickly became my second favorite. Though Parlor Room looks like it's gonna be great!

      5 votes
      1. Inanimate
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        Oh, I hadn't heard of Parlor Room! I'm a huge board game nut, so that's gonna be a delight to watch!

        Oh, I hadn't heard of Parlor Room! I'm a huge board game nut, so that's gonna be a delight to watch!

        1 vote
    3. [5]
      chocobean
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      Game Changer is far and away my favorite program on DropoutTV and I'm so glad there's a new season coming up.

      Game Changer is far and away my favorite program on DropoutTV and I'm so glad there's a new season coming up.

      3 votes
      1. [3]
        DefinitelyNotAFae
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        He's been here the whole time! I am excited for the stand up comic episode! And for whatever Sam does to Brennan to fuck with him this time.

        He's been here the whole time!

        I am excited for the stand up comic episode! And for whatever Sam does to Brennan to fuck with him this time.

        4 votes
        1. [2]
          chocobean
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          It made me happier to see Brennan talk about understanding the assignment (be messed with) and rolling with it, in his chat with Sam's episode of Adventuring Academy. I know they're good friends...

          It made me happier to see Brennan talk about understanding the assignment (be messed with) and rolling with it, in his chat with Sam's episode of Adventuring Academy. I know they're good friends in real life but it's somewhat distressing seeing unhappiness on the small screen, too, so thankfully it's played up for fun and a part of the improv.

          1 vote
          1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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            Yeah that's fair, they also very openly have safe words on set for episodes like that so if something ever did cross a line, the performers can step back. The character of BLeeM and BLeeM himself...

            Yeah that's fair, they also very openly have safe words on set for episodes like that so if something ever did cross a line, the performers can step back.

            The character of BLeeM and BLeeM himself are an overlapping Venn diagram but not the same and like you I do appreciate that they've tipped their hat to the intentional dynamic being a bit

            2 votes
      2. Inanimate
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        It truly is a masterpiece! It, Taskmaster, and the Korean show The Genius are my top 3 in the genre for sure.

        It truly is a masterpiece! It, Taskmaster, and the Korean show The Genius are my top 3 in the genre for sure.

        1 vote
  4. [2]
    phoenixrises
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    just an FYI because I know we have Dropout enjoyers here!

    just an FYI because I know we have Dropout enjoyers here!

    8 votes
    1. Zorind
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      Thank you! I’ve been debating getting a subscription, so this is useful to know and factor in. I don’t really follow any of their socials, so I don’t know if I would’ve seen this otherwise.

      Thank you! I’ve been debating getting a subscription, so this is useful to know and factor in.

      I don’t really follow any of their socials, so I don’t know if I would’ve seen this otherwise.

      5 votes
  5. [4]
    LetterCounter
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    The only thing I want is a lifetime subscription like I have with Nebula. Otherwise, I've been pleased with my dropout subscription and definitely want everyone involved to be paid well. Cast,...

    The only thing I want is a lifetime subscription like I have with Nebula.

    Otherwise, I've been pleased with my dropout subscription and definitely want everyone involved to be paid well.

    Cast, crew, and hosts are excellent and deserve a pay raise for all the work they've done! I can't tell you how many times I've laughed so hard I've cried watching dropout!

    6 votes
    1. [3]
      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      I wish but also I think realistically to be able to pay folks the way they want (and profit share!) a lifetime subscription would probably limit them. Especially with the loyalty of Dropout fans.

      I wish but also I think realistically to be able to pay folks the way they want (and profit share!) a lifetime subscription would probably limit them. Especially with the loyalty of Dropout fans.

      8 votes
      1. [2]
        knocklessmonster
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        Dropout does profit sharing?

        Dropout does profit sharing?

        2 votes
        1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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          Yeah they first did it in 2023 From Sam himself His dad taught him well.

          Yeah they first did it in 2023

          From Sam himself

          We just did our first ever profit share, which is something we’re really proud of. We took a portion of our profits for the year — which, we were profitable for the year, it was a privilege to be able to do this — and we redistributed it among anyone who had ever made $1 with us over the course of the year. So that includes cast and includes crew, includes folks who merely auditioned for us, because we pay folks to audition for us. But we had this sort of like minor moral crisis where we were like, we really don’t want to promote the fact that we did this too loudly. Because the point is to do good by these people. It’s not to turn it into a PR stunt.

          His dad taught him well.

          14 votes
  6. moocow1452
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    Of note, they mentioned that if you start a free trial and it expires after the price bump, you stay on the older pricing. So if say there was a WEBTOON adaptation of Dimension 20 Fantasy High...

    Of note, they mentioned that if you start a free trial and it expires after the price bump, you stay on the older pricing. So if say there was a WEBTOON adaptation of Dimension 20 Fantasy High that gave a month long free trial, now would be a pretty good time to use it.

    Discussion here: https://tild.es/1n2h

    4 votes
  7. chundissimo
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    Maintaining legacy pricing for existing subscribers is such a smart move. Yes they could extract more money out of some of us, but why not reward your loyal subscribers who will in turn probably...

    Maintaining legacy pricing for existing subscribers is such a smart move. Yes they could extract more money out of some of us, but why not reward your loyal subscribers who will in turn probably become more loyal since with that pricing they would much likelier cancel other streaming services before this one.

    2 votes
  8. [10]
    AndreasChris
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    Any idea how this affects EU pricing? If I access the signup page with a U.S. IP address (disregarding discounts for the first year) it shows me $59.99 (which is about 54,26 € atm), if I use an EU...

    Any idea how this affects EU pricing? If I access the signup page with a U.S. IP address (disregarding discounts for the first year) it shows me $59.99 (which is about 54,26 € atm), if I use an EU IP address it shows 64,00 € (which is about $70.76 atm).

    Has the pricing been changed in the EU already or do they simply charge more for EU customers?

    1 vote
    1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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      All I know is that the app doesn't do regional pricing (only the premium YT subscription does because Google does it for them) so my guess is that the price you're seeing is based on a rounded out...

      All I know is that the app doesn't do regional pricing (only the premium YT subscription does because Google does it for them) so my guess is that the price you're seeing is based on a rounded out calculation including the costs to dropout to exchange the currency.

      I think you could email them and get specifics. I'm poking around online and trying to see

      I did find someone else who's already subbed in Europe at the rate you shared so that does seem to be the current Euro rate. It may be reflecting something specific in the higher cost. But I'm not sure if they're increasing it again.

      2 votes
    2. [8]
      AndreasChris
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      I think I figured it out. For US customers they display a price that doesn't include taxes instead of showing you what you actually have to pay. For EU customers they can't do that. The displayed...

      I think I figured it out. For US customers they display a price that doesn't include taxes instead of showing you what you actually have to pay. For EU customers they can't do that. The displayed price must be what you actually pay. So I suppose they chose 64€ to achieve approximately the same net price. It's not confirmed information, but it kinda seems reasonable considering sales tax rates around here.

      1 vote
      1. [7]
        sparksbet
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        Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is it. They have a pretty comprehensive FAQ about who they charge sales tax/VAT and it's culturally normal to see the "pre-tax" price for things in the US due to how...

        Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is it. They have a pretty comprehensive FAQ about who they charge sales tax/VAT and it's culturally normal to see the "pre-tax" price for things in the US due to how widely sales tax can vary.

        1. [6]
          AndreasChris
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          After doing some further testing I'm utterly confused now. I checked out the small-print box on the signup page where it stated the total amount to be charged. On the US page it said that the...

          After doing some further testing I'm utterly confused now. I checked out the small-print box on the signup page where it stated the total amount to be charged. On the US page it said that the credit card will be charged '$49.99 (plus any tax)', while the german page simply states '€51,20' without the bracket afterwards. This is what led me to the aforementioned assumption.

          However, I just tried the 3-day test subscription and in the confirmation mail one line states that the card will be charged '€51,20', while another small print section below states that it will be charged '€51,20 (zzgl. Steuern)' indicating tax is not included.

          Now afaik it's illegal for online shops selling to customers around here to not include tax in the total amount in the first place. But not indicating that tax isn't included on the sales page and then doing so after the fact is taking it one step further. So if I didn't overlook something the 'zzgl. tax' in the confirmation mail is either a mistake (which may well be the case given that another line explicitly states the card will be charged 51,20), or they're not adhering to the law and charge more than they advertised.

          Also it appears I can use an international credit card to get the US pricing if I use a US IP address to access the seubscription page. Not sure how they'd determine tax then though...

          I'm very much confused.

          1. [5]
            sparksbet
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            I live in Germany and am paying 64€ a year, and this is also what's listed as the price when I click "sign up" on their website, and I can't find the fine print you're seeing, as the fine print on...

            I live in Germany and am paying 64€ a year, and this is also what's listed as the price when I click "sign up" on their website, and I can't find the fine print you're seeing, as the fine print on the actual website says 64€ in both the English and German versions. They're very clearly including tax in this figure and thus not violating the law there. I've also checked my emails from when I first started my free trial, and I can't find the text you're referencing there either (though I receive their emails in English rather than German, they all consistently list the price as 64€ / year).

            I'm curious which email contained the line you mentioned, where it was placed, and whether it was simply setting out the price without tax separately as one would on an invoice, since their advertised price seems to include tax very consistently and I cannot find the wording you describe myself.

            EDIT TO ADD: I've realized that the 51,20€ price is with the first-year 20% discount. I still don't see the "(zzgl. Steuern)" on the signup page there, just the flat 51,20€, but I suspect if it's present in the confirmation email it has something to do with the discount not reducing the tax (that is, that they're still setting aside the same amount of tax from your subscription as they would if you were paying 64€).

            Not sure how they'd determine tax then though...

            In my experience, websites use the billing address of the credit card to determine sales tax. I'm not sure how quickly or well they'd handle that if you used a US IP to sign up, but I suspect you'd get taxed based on the billing address of your credit card eventually.

            1. [4]
              AndreasChris
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              Good to know. I guess it's a mistake in the confirmation mail then if this is what they charge you. Otherwise signing up with the US pricing would be much cheaper. What got me to second guess my...

              I live in Germany and am paying 64€ a year, and this is also what's listed as the price when I click "sign up" on their website

              Good to know. I guess it's a mistake in the confirmation mail then if this is what they charge you. Otherwise signing up with the US pricing would be much cheaper.

              What got me to second guess my initial conclusion was the FAQ page linked by @sparksbet above. On it they specifically state that taxes are included in the price for Canada, but they use the same ambiguous wording for the EU and the US.

              I still don't see the "(zzgl. Steuern)" on the signup page there, just the flat 51,20€, but I suspect if it's present in the confirmation email it has something to do with the discount not reducing the tax (that is, that they're still setting aside the same amount of tax from your subscription as they would if you were paying 64€).

              It's not present onthe signup page. That's the point. But inthe confirmation mail it says:

              Dropout Subscription €64
              DROPOUTANNUAL 20 % RABATT
              Ingesamt €51,20 (EUR)

              Hinweis: Deine Karte wird am Ende des 3-tägigen Probezeitraums mit €51,20 belastet.

              Nach dem Ende des Probezeitraums beginnt dein Abonnement zum Preis von €51,20 (zzgl. Steuern) für das erste Jahr. Du kannst in deinen Kontoeinstellungen bis zum May 1, 2025 jederzeit kündigen, ohne dass dir etwas in Rechnung gestellt wird. Nach dem ersten Jahr verlängert sich dein Abonnement nicht, außer wenn du dein Jahresabonnement zum Preis von €64 (zzgl. Steuern) in deinen Kontoeinstellungen fortsetzt.

              That wording seems contradictory to me.

              In my experience, websites use the billing address of the credit card to determine sales tax. I'm not sure how quickly or well they'd handle that if you used a US IP to sign up, but I suspect you'd get taxed based on the billing address of your credit card eventually.

              If they get the billing address form the credit card company I guess you're probably right. They didn't ask me to enter one on the signup page. With my local taxes applied US pricing would still be slightly cheaper with current conversion rates even if I operate under the assumption that taxes are included in the EU pricing, but only by a euro or two, so that's within a reasonable margin of error for conversion rate fluctuations.

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                sparksbet
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                This wasn't present in my old confirmation mail from when I signed up. Perhaps it's a translation error in the German version? That's the only major difference I can think of, since I receive all...

                It's not present onthe signup page. That's the point. But in the confirmation mail it says:

                This wasn't present in my old confirmation mail from when I signed up. Perhaps it's a translation error in the German version? That's the only major difference I can think of, since I receive all my emails from them in English. I can totally see them accidentally having the US template email translated rather than the EU one without the "not including taxes" line. My confirmation email exclusively referenced the 64€/year price and did not include the phrase "(zzgl. Steuern)" or its English equivalent.

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                  AndreasChris
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                  Hmm, weird. I take it you didn't sign up with any discount for the first year? Maybe they only include the box to specify how the discount works and forgot to remove the bracket from the US...

                  Hmm, weird. I take it you didn't sign up with any discount for the first year? Maybe they only include the box to specify how the discount works and forgot to remove the bracket from the US version of the text.

                  I'm inclined to just send them a message today (as I'm still within the test period) and ask for clarification, in conjunction with a request to terminate the subscription if they intend to charge more than advertised. Afaik I should have a 14-day right of withdrawal by EU law anyway. But since you're only charged the advertised 64€ for your subscription, I think it'll likely turn out to be a localisation mistake in the confirmation mail and end up being the listed amount without additional fees.

                  1. sparksbet
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                    I got the discount my first year I think, but I've been subscribed for long enough that I no longer have that first confirmation email. I have one from late 2023 when I re-subscribed after a...

                    I got the discount my first year I think, but I've been subscribed for long enough that I no longer have that first confirmation email. I have one from late 2023 when I re-subscribed after a payment method issue (one that was my fault, fwiw, and which their customer support was very helpful with). I don't think it's a bad idea to message their customer support confirming that the wording in that email is incorrect (hopefully they change it as a result!) but I can confirm they haven't charged me a cent more than 64€ per year.