17 votes

California fire facts

6 comments

  1. [4]
    sqew
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    Obviously Gavin Newsom and his team have political motivations for posting this as well, but I just wanted to share it. I've been so, so disappointed in some of my friends and coworkers over the...

    Obviously Gavin Newsom and his team have political motivations for posting this as well, but I just wanted to share it. I've been so, so disappointed in some of my friends and coworkers over the last few days as I've listened to them spout off things about "California doesn't manage its forests" or "how'd they mismanage things to run out of fire hydrant water".

    This is all so terribly sad for the people affected, and I think it's pretty clear that LAFD, LA County FD, CalFire, and all of the agencies across the country that have rushed resources to help want to protect people as best they can and put out each fire as soon as possible.

    Not sure what else to say other than that I'm sad that all of this misfortune and misery is being used to try to score political points when the people on the ground at the water agencies, fire departments, etc. are just doing the best they can.

    16 votes
    1. [3]
      Unsorted
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      Facts aren't political, so I'm a bit curious why you say he has a political agenda in posting this. Countering lies and bad information isn't political.

      Facts aren't political, so I'm a bit curious why you say he has a political agenda in posting this. Countering lies and bad information isn't political.

      4 votes
      1. stu2b50
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        Facts can be political in two ways: one, they can be false, two, they can be misleading if you omit other facts. As an example of the latter, it's a fact that 100% of people who drink water have...

        Facts can be political in two ways: one, they can be false, two, they can be misleading if you omit other facts.

        As an example of the latter, it's a fact that 100% of people who drink water have died, but it implies things which are not true.

        Not to say that the link necessarily contains either, but it's useful context that the page is written by an entity with a vested interest in expressing how the state is competent.

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      2. sqew
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        I guess my thought there was just that Newsom is a politician and will naturally view things like "responding to criticism" from a political place. Basically, I'm sure there are things that the...

        I guess my thought there was just that Newsom is a politician and will naturally view things like "responding to criticism" from a political place.

        Basically, I'm sure there are things that the city, county, and state could have done to make a disaster like this less likely or more manageable, but I'm annoyed by the rush from people who have things to gain from calling local and state leaders incompetent or malicious to do so, especially when they lie or distort the truth.

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    snake_case
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    Its kind of hard to take the governor seriously when the LA fire chief is going scorched earth on the guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XldrFfST848

    Its kind of hard to take the governor seriously when the LA fire chief is going scorched earth on the guy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XldrFfST848

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    1. Unsorted
      Link Parent
      Except that the fire chief either has her own political opinion of Newsom or her own political aspirations. Because her angle that the budget was cut is extremely misleading....
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