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Super Mario Bros 35th Anniversary Direct

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  1. ali
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    That game and watch for 50 bucks would be an instant buy for me, but I imagine it will be mostly bought by scalpers Mario Battle Royale looks super funny and I’ll definitely try it. I don’t quite...

    That game and watch for 50 bucks would be an instant buy for me, but I imagine it will be mostly bought by scalpers

    Mario Battle Royale looks super funny and I’ll definitely try it. I don’t quite get why it would cease to exist in a few months though

    Augmented reality Mario cart looks very fun as well, might get it for the novelty factor at some point.
    Looking at it more I’m going to get it because I love the idea and I’m very curious how they incorporated ar into a game

    Some of those Mario themed products look really cool as well...

    Free Mario games in switch online are cool

    And holy shit they did it Mario 64 on switch yes!!!!! Omg fuck yes the rumors were true Mario sunshine as well. Stop I can only get so erect. Mario galaxy too omg I am going to buy this as soon as it comes out. Please give me this with Zelda as well.

    I am buying this day one for freaking sure. Limited time only woah.

    (These were my live comments while watching this)

    Pre ordered this on amazon I hope I’m not too late

    If anyone finds the game and watch for preorder in the eu or us please let me know!

    Edit: it’s available on amazon in Germany and France. I preordered one

    13 votes
  2. dubteedub
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    I am really excited for the Super Mario Trilogy game for Switch. I never got a chance to play Mario Sunshine so and I loved 64 and Galaxy.

    I am really excited for the Super Mario Trilogy game for Switch. I never got a chance to play Mario Sunshine so and I loved 64 and Galaxy.

    11 votes
  3. [5]
    moocow1452
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    What I noticed that hasn't been mentioned yet: Super Mario Maker 2 getting an anniversary speedrun means it's pretty much done as far as new content goes. Super Mario Bros 35 is the most blatant...

    What I noticed that hasn't been mentioned yet:

    • Super Mario Maker 2 getting an anniversary speedrun means it's pretty much done as far as new content goes.
    • Super Mario Bros 35 is the most blatant cribbing of a fan product from Nintendo since AM2R, and you could make the case that the two were developed independently.
    • Why limit how long SMB35 and 3D all stars are available for? If they want to break out rereleases into their own games, I get it, but why the limited time offer?
    9 votes
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      ducc
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      The limited time offer is probably to push people to buy it that wouldn't otherwise have, a la Disney Vault.

      The limited time offer is probably to push people to buy it that wouldn't otherwise have, a la Disney Vault.

      6 votes
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        Akir
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        I really wish they wouldn't. Every time they do that with their major IP they end up making a scalper's market because they can't produce enough of them for the demand.

        I really wish they wouldn't. Every time they do that with their major IP they end up making a scalper's market because they can't produce enough of them for the demand.

        3 votes
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          ali
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          Thinking about this made me decide that I’m just going to build a Retropie now. I am not in the mood to pay some assholes double the msrp if I can create a superior gaming device for essentially...

          Thinking about this made me decide that I’m just going to build a Retropie now. I am not in the mood to pay some assholes double the msrp if I can create a superior gaming device for essentially free since I have a pi and a ps4 controller here. I might get some nice 8bitdo controller at some point to keep it seperate from the ps4 though

          4 votes
          1. Akir
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            I wholeheartedly recommend 8bitdo controllers. Not only do they offer great quality at pretty low prices, they also work with just about everything.

            I wholeheartedly recommend 8bitdo controllers. Not only do they offer great quality at pretty low prices, they also work with just about everything.

            5 votes
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    Erik
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    I wonder if it's possible to play that Mario Kart game outside. As someone that lives in the city and really doesn't have the space for it in my home, I could definitely take it to the ally out...

    I wonder if it's possible to play that Mario Kart game outside. As someone that lives in the city and really doesn't have the space for it in my home, I could definitely take it to the ally out back and have plenty of room. But it probably needs wifi or something.

    5 votes
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      what
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      That's a good point, I wonder if the Switch's Bluetooth has enough bandwidth for webcam streaming, controlling the car, and connecting a controller, or if it has enough range to do so from a...

      But it probably needs wifi or something.

      That's a good point, I wonder if the Switch's Bluetooth has enough bandwidth for webcam streaming, controlling the car, and connecting a controller, or if it has enough range to do so from a comfortable distance.

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      1. Akir
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        Well, to be fair, the IR camera used in one Joycon is connected via bluetooth. But that's just a low-resolution black-and-white image. I would imagine that this will use WiFi, unless the...

        Well, to be fair, the IR camera used in one Joycon is connected via bluetooth. But that's just a low-resolution black-and-white image.

        I would imagine that this will use WiFi, unless the commercial was shot cleverly to disguise the fact that you'd need some other kind of dongle on the Switch side.

        1 vote
  5. [10]
    hook
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    To someone who never played a 3D Mario game before Odyssey (apart from 64 a bit in a shop), how would you pitch the 3D collection? I know they’re groundbreaking classics of their own times, but...

    To someone who never played a 3D Mario game before Odyssey (apart from 64 a bit in a shop), how would you pitch the 3D collection? I know they’re groundbreaking classics of their own times, but neither the NES nor the Switch versions I really love – Mario just feels like constantly on ice to me. I know I’m in the minority …

    I probably should have rephrased my question more in the sense of “how would you sell these three games to someone who finished Odyssey, recognises its superb qualities, but neither loves it nor holds any nostalgia towards those games?”
    4 votes
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      1. [4]
        hook
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        I agree that Mario has some momentum and there’s nothing wrong with that. Sonic and Donkey Kong have it as well (probably even more so), but for some reason Mario’s momentum just isn’t my cuppa,...

        I agree that Mario has some momentum and there’s nothing wrong with that. Sonic and Donkey Kong have it as well (probably even more so), but for some reason Mario’s momentum just isn’t my cuppa, while I totally understand DK’s and Sonic’s (although, truth be told, Sonic 1’s level design made his momentum quite annoying at times). And DK definitely has more gravitas to him, while Sonic builds up momentum quite slowly, which in theory should arguably be worse, but I like them more. I guess the momentum with those two matches their characters.

        I haven’t played A Hat in Time yet, but it’s on my wishlist. What I did play already was the demo of Super Lucky’s Tale and loved it. Those controls seem perfectly spot on to me for a 3D platformer.

        Ultimately, it’s not Mario, it’s me. I just wanted to know what makes these 3D Mario games so great and see if it makes sense for me to try them out. I quite like the premise of both Sunshine and Galaxy.

        1 vote
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          viridian
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          Just a fair bit of warning then, the platforming and level design in a hat in time are very, very evocative of super mario sunshine. In spite of that fact though, the controls are very precise and...

          Just a fair bit of warning then, the platforming and level design in a hat in time are very, very evocative of super mario sunshine. In spite of that fact though, the controls are very precise and the nightmare challenges are brutal. Hat girl is pretty floaty and has very commital movement options, just like mario, but very rarely will you feel like it was the game's fault when you die. Unless you dash -> bonk -> die off of some weird 3d geometry, but all the mario games have that same issue as well.

          2 votes
          1. [2]
            hook
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            The level design in Mario Odyssey (only 3D I properly played), I actually like. The character controls are what I don't as much. Too bad there is no demo for A Hat in Time. Thank you for the...

            The level design in Mario Odyssey (only 3D I properly played), I actually like. The character controls are what I don't as much. Too bad there is no demo for A Hat in Time. Thank you for the warning though.

            1. viridian
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              I'd recommend watching this specifically for the movement, to get a feeling for what high level A hat in time play would feel like: https://youtu.be/909d_2yhl98 That's the current world record...

              I'd recommend watching this specifically for the movement, to get a feeling for what high level A hat in time play would feel like: https://youtu.be/909d_2yhl98

              That's the current world record speedrun for deathwish mode, which is 101 optional hourglasses (star equivalents) that are about 100x harder than those in the base game. There's a lot more active momentum in play than something like odyssey, because that's just sort of the nature of hat girl's hat switching and badges (ice hat, sprint hat, grapple badge, bonk badge) , whereas mario is pretty limited to his fairly solid options the game teaches you (and a bunch of cancel techniques).

              2 votes
    2. [3]
      kfwyre
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      I like the feel of Mario's controls a lot better in the 3D Marios than in the 2D ones. I played both versions growing up and have gone back to both as an adult, and I don't enjoy the 2D ones...

      I like the feel of Mario's controls a lot better in the 3D Marios than in the 2D ones. I played both versions growing up and have gone back to both as an adult, and I don't enjoy the 2D ones nearly as much now because of Mario's momentum and the slippery "ice" feeling you identified. I still love the 3D ones though.

      They're also a fundamentally different style of game. 2D Marios are very linear, whereas the 3D Marios are much more of an open-world, exploration-type experience than a pure platformer. @viridian's description of them as a "platforming canvas" is really great. There's a lot more leeway for how you get somewhere than there is in the 2D ones (which is what makes their speedruns so impressive).

      If you're on the fence, it might be worth firing one up in an emulator for a bit and seeing how it feels to you as a "try before you buy".

      5 votes
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        hook
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        I definitely agree that Odyssey’s (and 64’s AFAICR) controls are much better than 2D Mario. I beat the NES original on the Switch Online, just to honour Mario. Yesterday I tried both the 1 and 3...

        I definitely agree that Odyssey’s (and 64’s AFAICR) controls are much better than 2D Mario. I beat the NES original on the Switch Online, just to honour Mario. Yesterday I tried both the 1 and 3 on the SNES All Stars and while it may have been a tiny bit better, I still did not like it.

        Odyssey plays a lot nicer, and I did beat it already, and the game definitely oozes quality and charm, and the attention to detail is amazing. I draw my hat before everyone who can slide and throw 3D Mario around in those wonderful multi-jump ballets, but me and Mario somehow don’t get along that well.

        I probably should have rephrased my question more in the sense of “how would you sell these three games to someone who finished Odyssey, recognises its superb qualities, but neither loves it nor holds any nostalgia towards those games?”

        1 vote
        1. kfwyre
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          Ah, that makes sense. I think it's safe to say that if you didn't love Odyssey you're safe to skip the others.

          Ah, that makes sense. I think it's safe to say that if you didn't love Odyssey you're safe to skip the others.

          2 votes
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      mrbig
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      It seems like you already answered your question—you don’t like 3D Mario. That’s fine. I did not play all of them, nor have I played them for very long, but I find them superb.

      It seems like you already answered your question—you don’t like 3D Mario. That’s fine. I did not play all of them, nor have I played them for very long, but I find them superb.

      1. hook
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        I like Mario Odysssey, I just don’t love it. Regarding 2D Marios I recognise their importance in gaming, but hold no nostalgia towards them (I was a PC gamer as a kid), and if we’re talking about...

        I like Mario Odysssey, I just don’t love it. Regarding 2D Marios I recognise their importance in gaming, but hold no nostalgia towards them (I was a PC gamer as a kid), and if we’re talking about older platformers I prefer the momentum of other characters like Sonic, DK, Rayman, even Zool. (Madeline in Celeste is in its own league of course, and a completely different type.)

        Thinking a bit back, from all the 2D Marios I tried so far, I think I liked Super Mario Land on GameBoy the most.

        2 votes
  6. kfwyre
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    I have been telling my husband that I want a re-release of Sunshine for years, and it's finally here! I am beyond stoked. We both preordered copies of the 3D All-Stars collection. My only...

    I have been telling my husband that I want a re-release of Sunshine for years, and it's finally here! I am beyond stoked. We both preordered copies of the 3D All-Stars collection.

    My only complaint is that it's time-limited. Why, Nintendo? Give the people what they want and keep it that way indefinitely!

    2 votes