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Nintendo Direct - February 17, 2021

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  1. [2]
    nothis
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    Ahh, that felt like the old times: All hopes crushed with just the tiniest of teases on stuff I might possibly maybe actually enjoy. Honestly, with 2019 eaten up by a weak Pokemon entry, a proper,...

    Ahh, that felt like the old times: All hopes crushed with just the tiniest of teases on stuff I might possibly maybe actually enjoy.

    Honestly, with 2019 eaten up by a weak Pokemon entry, a proper, big-scale AAA entry that is not a frickin' port is well overdue. I hoped (well, not really) they might have held back in 2020 due to corona and have a Mario Odyssey 2 up their sleeves. Maybe Bayonetta 3 would finally be ready. But no. We'll get Lee Carvallo’s Putting Challenge in June and might get Splatoon 3 in 2022, though!

    9 votes
    1. usr4746
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      Honestly there is no point for Nintendo to make big announcements as often as they did at Switch's earlier days. It sells like hot cakes anyway, why rush?

      Honestly there is no point for Nintendo to make big announcements as often as they did at Switch's earlier days. It sells like hot cakes anyway, why rush?

      3 votes
  2. [10]
    dubteedub
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    Pretty disappointing Direct considering its been like a year and a half since the last full one? I don't really think Skyward Sword is that big of a pull considering how panned it was critically....

    Pretty disappointing Direct considering its been like a year and a half since the last full one?

    I don't really think Skyward Sword is that big of a pull considering how panned it was critically. No one has exactly been clamoring for a new release of it. I would much rather have Twilight Princess or Windwaker HD releases. Or hell, just port over the Ocarina of Time 3DS release to Switch.

    Triangle Strategy is about the only game here that I am really interested in. I would love to have another strategy RPG to check out and I love the kind of Final Fantasy Tactics aesthetic they have going on. That being said, it's disappointing not having much else to look forward to on the Switch.

    6 votes
    1. Thales
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      Skyward Sword was actually quite well-received among critics: it holds a score of 93 ("Universal acclaim") on metacritic, for example. What you may be alluding to is how divisive it was among the...

      I don't really think Skyward Sword is that big of a pull considering how panned it was critically. No one has exactly been clamoring for a new release of it.

      Skyward Sword was actually quite well-received among critics: it holds a score of 93 ("Universal acclaim") on metacritic, for example. What you may be alluding to is how divisive it was among the fanbase, however.

      I fully agree that this was a disappointing direct, though (possibly the most disappointing general direct of the Switch era?). Re-releasing a barebones remaster of a 2011 game for 80 CAD is shameless.

      6 votes
    2. [2]
      hamstergeddon
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      I remember a lot of that being because of the motion controls and the introduction of some more traditional RPG elements. No motion controls, plus BotW cementing traditional RPG elements means...

      I don't really think Skyward Sword is that big of a pull considering how panned it was critically.

      I remember a lot of that being because of the motion controls and the introduction of some more traditional RPG elements. No motion controls, plus BotW cementing traditional RPG elements means there are probably a ton of people who skipped the game entirely on the Wii who are likely to give it another go now. Myself included. I'm pretty excited.

      5 votes
      1. treed
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        Having to actually wave your hand to swing the sword was the big reason I skipped it, but I'm honestly not sure I want to spend $60 for a decade old game.

        Having to actually wave your hand to swing the sword was the big reason I skipped it, but I'm honestly not sure I want to spend $60 for a decade old game.

        1 vote
    3. [6]
      nothis
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      I think them re-releasing Skyward Sword for fucking $60 is overstepping some line. They already had some bold re-release pricing but this takes the cake. This is arguably the least beloved 3D...

      I think them re-releasing Skyward Sword for fucking $60 is overstepping some line. They already had some bold re-release pricing but this takes the cake. This is arguably the least beloved 3D Zelda title and it's in the absolute worst bracket of old-but-not-quite-classic for a videogame. It was made to sell the Wii Motion Plus (and we know how well that turned out). Their sole mechanical improvement, apparently, is removing waggle controls. Them making these comparisons to BotW ("oh, this one had a stamina bar as well!") feels downright insulting, that's like praising the CD-i Zeldas for pioneering fully animated cut-scenes.

      Like, come on Nintendo, this goes too far.

      4 votes
      1. [4]
        stu2b50
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        It is what it is; Nintendo prices it at what the market can bear, and it can bear quite a bit. Speaking personally, even at $60, I am still going to buy it when it comes out, and I expect to get...

        It is what it is; Nintendo prices it at what the market can bear, and it can bear quite a bit.

        Speaking personally, even at $60, I am still going to buy it when it comes out, and I expect to get $60 worth of enjoyment out of it.

        3 votes
        1. [3]
          nothis
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          Really? Ok, I honestly thought this is where most folks would draw the line. Are you a massive Skyward Sword fan?

          Really? Ok, I honestly thought this is where most folks would draw the line. Are you a massive Skyward Sword fan?

          1 vote
          1. [2]
            stu2b50
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            Nope. Skyward Sword uniquely is the only 3D Zelda I've never played, since the Wiimotion+ requirement is a feat not even emulators can defeat. Why not? It's practically as if a new Zelda game has...

            Nope. Skyward Sword uniquely is the only 3D Zelda I've never played, since the Wiimotion+ requirement is a feat not even emulators can defeat.

            Why not? It's practically as if a new Zelda game has released from my PoV. I suppose graphically it is not to the modern par, but I've never really cared.

            4 votes
            1. Icarus
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              This is my perspective as well. I never played Skyward Sword beyond the initial hour or two since the set-up on PC was such a pain in the ass back in the day. There was some quality of life...

              This is my perspective as well. I never played Skyward Sword beyond the initial hour or two since the set-up on PC was such a pain in the ass back in the day. There was some quality of life improvements to Twilight Princess on Wii U that made it a better game to play. I hope Skyward Sword has some as well beyond the new play styles.

              Plus, I kind of prefer the older 3D Zeldas over the open-world approach from Breath of the Wild.

              2 votes
      2. Icarus
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        If I recall correctly, not only was waggle controls a downside to this game, but Fi was extremely in your face and annoying?

        This is arguably the least beloved 3D Zelda title and it's in the absolute worst bracket of old-but-not-quite-classic for a videogame. It was made to sell the Wii Motion Plus (and we know how well that turned out). Their sole mechanical improvement, apparently, is removing waggle controls

        If I recall correctly, not only was waggle controls a downside to this game, but Fi was extremely in your face and annoying?

        2 votes
  3. [3]
    stu2b50
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    Impressions Smash - I liked XC2, although it was very cheesy, so am fairly happy with the new character. Also the first female only DLC character - prior it was only the alt costumes "Triangle...

    Impressions

    • Smash - I liked XC2, although it was very cheesy, so am fairly happy with the new character. Also the first female only DLC character - prior it was only the alt costumes

    • "Triangle Strategy" - name aside, a new FFT style SRPG is appreciated. Hopefully only having 3 paths, rather than 8, will allow them to have a more cohesive game

    • No BOTW2 - that's fine, although I wish MP4 also got the "we're working on it" updates

    • Skyward Sword - actually pretty hyped, this thing is like impossible to play without either actually having the stupid attachment or using a very janky dolphin controller setup, so Nintendo made button mode is a big deal

    4 votes
    1. misty
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      The Skyward Sword port hopefully shows that they're probably going to rerelease more Wii games (I was semi-expecting Galaxy 2 in the Direct but ah well). Disappointed about how they've priced...

      The Skyward Sword port hopefully shows that they're probably going to rerelease more Wii games (I was semi-expecting Galaxy 2 in the Direct but ah well). Disappointed about how they've priced SSHD, though.

      3 votes
    2. Sand
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      Min Min? We already know they're working on it. They tend to only share news when a game is close to being finished.

      Also the first female only DLC character - prior it was only the alt costumes

      Min Min?

      although I wish MP4 also got the "we're working on it" updates

      We already know they're working on it. They tend to only share news when a game is close to being finished.

      2 votes
  4. herson
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    I wasn't expecting anything, really, maybe just more info on SMT5, but I knew they weren't going to say anything about it. But... It's nice to see Skyward Sword finally on switch and I'm looking...

    I wasn't expecting anything, really, maybe just more info on SMT5, but I knew they weren't going to say anything about it. But... It's nice to see Skyward Sword finally on switch and I'm looking forward for the physical release of Hades, also I ran to download the demo for the Triangle Strategy game which I'm loving already.

    So yeah, it was ok at the end.

    3 votes
  5. Seven
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    I did not expect Splatoon 3 at all, and I can't wait! Super hyped for it.

    I did not expect Splatoon 3 at all, and I can't wait! Super hyped for it.

    3 votes
  6. petrichor
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    Nintendo has a handy-dandy overview for those who don't feel like watching the full Direct. It was a little disappointing. The only games that caught my attention were Project Triangle Strategy,...

    Nintendo has a handy-dandy overview for those who don't feel like watching the full Direct.

    It was a little disappointing. The only games that caught my attention were Project Triangle Strategy, Outer Wilds, and the Legend of Mana remaster. I tried the demo for Triangle Strategy and didn't like it - Final Fantasy Tactics style gameplay just isn't for me. Bravely Default would be my cup of tea - I love turn-based RPGs with Jobs systems - but I really can't get over the art style. Fall Guys and Apex Legends look fun, but my internet's too slow for anything like that.

    Still, there's a bunch of great games already on the Switch that I haven't played or finished. And I'm sure anybody a fan of Skyward Sword, Splatoon, Monster Hunter, or Ninja Gaiden is pretty happy right now.

    Quick-fire takes on games not mentioned in the Direct that I'm looking forward to:

    • Breath of the Wild 2: Probably coming in the second half of 2022, if the Hyrule Warriors DLC doesn't arrive until November.
    • Shin Megami Tensei V: Strange that we didn't get a release date - maybe it's going to be a holiday title?
    • Super Mario Odyssey 2: No news, and Splatoon 3's reveal, makes me think 2023 (if they're working on it).
    • Octopath Traveler 2: Likely still coming - I kind of doubt that this is Project Triangle Strategy. Still unclear.
    • Persona 5: Boy howdy, I'd like this to come to the Switch. It can easily handle it and Atlus has already ported a similar game, so I suspect the only roadblocks would be conflict with SMT V and any Sony exclusivity deals. Not getting my hopes up, though.
    3 votes