Looking to hear experiences about Laser Facial Hair Removal
I am a guy (I don't really feel as being very masculine at all, but also not feminine, and I do feel kinda close to the nonbinary community, but I just don't really care, so I just stick with the default that was assigned to me to make things easy for me), but I don't really like my facial hair at all. Even when I do (what I think is) a pretty smooth shave in the morning it just ends up being ugly again by the evening. I'd much prefer to not have to deal with facial hair at all. So I was wondering if laser facial hair removal might be an option for me. I have dark hair and light skin, which from what I've read should be the combination on which it works the best.
I am a huge overthinker of everything, so I already did quite a bit of research myself, and thought about it for a number of weeks, but as with most things it's not easy to find a conclusive simple answer that it's good or bad. I've seen people say that it works amazing, others that it didn't do much, I've seen a lot of people say that it's not permanent, I've seen people say that it damaged/scarred their skin, I've even seen people say that it made them have more facial hair instead!
So I'd kind of like to hear if the people of Tildes have any experience with it. Did it work well for you? Do you still need to shave your face every day afterwards? Did it cause any issues?
AMAB gender nonconforming person here! I had it done 2 years ago, 8 sessions total, face only (upper lip, cheeks, chin, and neck). I'm also white with dark hair, and as you described, my technician told me that I was pretty much the ideal client. I explicitly went to a trans-oriented clinic (Bluebird Laser in Toronto), and my experience was very positive. I'd highly recommend checking out their website even if you aren't in the area, as I very much agree with a lot of what they've written on their site about laser hair removal.
I think I started out with a below-average amount of facial hair to begin with? I was never going to be able to grow a beard (not that I would have ever tried), but there was enough hair for it to be unpleasant and require daily shaving.
After my 8 sessions, and two years later, I no longer have to shave my cheeks or neck at all. Not a single hair remains in those areas. I still get a few pale hairs on my chin, but they're invisible enough that I shave my chin maybe once a month. Unfortunately, I still do have to shave my upper lip... There are a couple dozen patchy hairs left, and if I leave it for a few days/a week, then they become noticeable. But, this is fully expected, as the upper lip is the most difficult area, and my laser technician warned me ahead of time that it's typical to be referred to electrolysis to fully clear out the remaining upper lip hairs. I've just been lazy slash satisfied enough with the minimal shaving I have to do, and so I haven't taken the time to pursue it further. I haven't gone for any touch-ups, and I haven't felt the need tbh?
As far as satisfaction with the cost, the process, and the end result, I'm over the moon. I would do it all again in a heartbeat. It's lovely to not really have to shave, purely from a convenience standpoint. But, it's also done wonders for my discomfort re: facial hair. I'm also in a similar boat re: gender ambiguity. In terms of identity labels, I've waffled between transfem, demigender, nonbinary, bigender, etc. But the common thread between all of my feelings is that I don't want to be seen as a capital 'M' man. I don't want people to interpret me as manly -- I'd rather be read as soft and unthreatening. And over the years I've tried to accomplish this by gradually minimizing male sexual dimorphic characteristics where possible -- facial hair fits right into this.
I haven't fully transitioned to presenting as female, and I'm not 100% sure I ever will. I still 'boymode' so to speak, and people who aren't my fiance still view me as a (boyish) male, and that's... Mostly fine! But, just because I'm not a binary trans woman doesn't mean that the 'in between' options are off the table. :)
Based on your post, and how similar you sound to how I was a few years ago, I really think you'd benefit from it! It's painful and expensive, but imo wholly worth every cent. I look back at pics of myself pre-laser and it's shocking how much of a ghastly shadow I used to have on my face in every pic. I would never go back.
EDIT: I'd be happy to fetch some before and after pics when I get home? I haven't shaved in a few days, so it'll be perfect for demoing exactly what I'm talking about.
Thank you for the response (and also from everyone else who responded!). The constant shadow on my face does make me unhappy, so getting rid of that would be amazing. That does sound amazing.
Your mileage may vary indeed. I know some that have had 6 sessions and that's been it for them and they like @evie rarely need to shave. I also know someone who got scarred from it (electrolysis). Never heard of anyone getting more hair from it though. Personally I have had 12 sessions of IPL (light, not laser) and approximately 15 with diode laser and while it has been treated about 80-90% - so you can argue that it did work well - it is for me not fully permanent. It looks great 2 weeks after a session but 2 months later I need to go again.. I need to shave every other day at least but I'm always a bit nervous about that second day, so if I have some sort of plans then I do it every day. I have never had any issues with either IPL nor laser.
Whatever you do, do not get IPL as that is not permanent. Also do not get an at-home laser as they are not powerful enough for beard hair - ask me how I know, €500 later..
Diode laser is the most affordable of the treatments that work, but it might take a very long time and at least in my case, like I said, I have to go back every so often for touch-ups as things come do back. It also depends on your skin tone and the colour of your hair. If you are pale and have black hair, it will be the most effective. The darker your skin and lighter your hair, the less effective it is.
If you have a high budget for this, go for electrolysis,
that stuff is mostly permanent and nothing will ever come back(edit: nvm @x08 can weigh in). It does however require a lot of hours of stabbing pain. Well all permanent hair removal is painful as fuck.this typically happens because the technician is not competent. either they have poor needle technique, or they remove hairs in a cluster, which focuses the trauma rather than spreading it out. permanent cosmetic procedures are not something to cheap out on!
electrolytic hair removal is no more permanent than laser; its effects are just differently distributed. optimum (cost, time, pain, results) in most cases is to do laser hair removal till diminishing returns and then switch to electrolysis
Oof, where to start on electrolysis. Well, yes it's painful, horribly painful, as in, you get stabbed, shocked and then the hair is pulled out for EACH hair. I only lasted 20mins each session out of 30mins planned. Horribly painful for me and not worth it.
IPL on the other hand, smooth sailing, just a few big warm flashes and done. No dark hairs left after a TON of sessions.
I'm currently undergoing laser hair removal (6 sessions so far) for a few areas but the face isn't one of them. However, here are a few things I've learned or been told by my practitioner about laser hair treatment in general:
Overall I'm happy with the experience, but I'm not done and there's still some ways to go. I do notice the difference, but only time will tell if it really sticks long term. I hope this helps!
I'm curious about this myself. I'm a guy and moderately ok being so, but there are sections of my face that will never grow a proper beard, and I've often pondered whether it would be worth getting my neck and the patchy sections of my face lasered. If anyone has experiences, I'm all ears. The laser hair removal places will promise the moon, but the experience of someone who's actually had experience with it would be invaluable.
Trans woman who finished laser on my face ~2 months ago with a total of i think 10 sessions. My facial hair is a mix of light & dark hairs so I went into it with the understanding that not all of it would get zapped. So far its been pretty successful. I still have to shave and there are a few darker hairs that are coming back, but before I would get ~12 hours out of shaving I can now get away with a couple of days before I feel it and a day or two after that before its visible. Previously i wasnt able to shave more than once every 3 or 4 days because it would really irritate my skin and give me a big red mustache if i shaved too soon, but now I can shave without any issues almost as soon as i feel hair so even though i still need to shave, I dont have to plan my life around only being clean shaven once a week.
Overall its been totally worth it even if it wasnt 100% or even really 60% successful at getting rid of my facial hair. It brought it down to a level thats manageable and stays nearly invisible if i keep on top of it, versus constant facial hair shadow and regrowing within a day.
I've had laser on my face and legs. I went to I think three biweekly sessions? I have fair skin and very light, wispy hair, so the effectiveness wasn't as high as it would be for you (probably gonna do electrolysis eventually). In terms of sensation, it feels like getting flicked hard by a rubber band repeatedly during the session, and like having a mild sunburn after. It hurts, but hurts in a way that had me giggling; it isn't so bad. This was a few years ago now. It worked alright for me -- I only have to shave my face once or twice a week now, and my legs every couple weeks -- but didn't totally stop all growth, and I think the effectiveness has definitely diminished with time. That said I did fewer than the recommended number of sessions so that could play a role too. Me and two of my family members did it and none of us have had any damage or health issues from it.
I've had about a dozen sessions on my face and entire body. I also have dark hair and light skin. It's not permanent in that you won't kill every hair, but you will kill a lot of them. I used to be very hairy, thick beard, etc. I still shave but way less. I'm doing electro to clear up the white hairs and the hairs that still exist.
The nicest part has been doing it all over my entire body. I shave much more rarely now and don't even bother shaving many areas because the hairs still around are all white or much thinner.