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Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire | Official teaser trailer

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  1. [16]
    Rudism
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    I wish studios would put all this effort, money, and talent towards something novel instead of these nostalgia-driven cash grab reboot/sequels. Stop pillaging my childhood for content and build up...

    I wish studios would put all this effort, money, and talent towards something novel instead of these nostalgia-driven cash grab reboot/sequels. Stop pillaging my childhood for content and build up some new franchises that kids today can complain about when they're my age instead.

    32 votes
    1. [7]
      venn177
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      The problem is studios are only going to invest in something that they see as low-risk. Look at what happened with The Northman-- a studio threw an insane amount of money, a director created a...

      The problem is studios are only going to invest in something that they see as low-risk.

      Look at what happened with The Northman-- a studio threw an insane amount of money, a director created a GREAT movie, and it bombed really hard. Original IPs just don't make money.

      9 votes
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        BeardyHat
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        I haven't seen The Northman yet, though I've seen many of Eggers other work, which I love. The Northman and Eggers movies in general aren't the types of movies you turn to your partner and say,...

        I haven't seen The Northman yet, though I've seen many of Eggers other work, which I love.

        The Northman and Eggers movies in general aren't the types of movies you turn to your partner and say, "Hey, let's go see that tonight."

        If we had more original movies that were basic comedies, as the original Ghostbusters was, I'd agree with you a little more, but you can't throw a ton of money at director who makes pretty intense, niche movies and then expect it to do gangbusters with a general audience. Most people aren't up for that on a Saturday afternoon.

        10 votes
        1. [2]
          cloud_loud
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          Stuff like Free Guy, which did pretty well for the time period in which it released, is exactly the type of studio film that Ghostbusters was. I’m not sure anyone expected that to do as well as it...

          If we had more original movies that were basic comedies, as the original Ghostbusters was

          Stuff like Free Guy, which did pretty well for the time period in which it released, is exactly the type of studio film that Ghostbusters was.

          I’m not sure anyone expected that to do as well as it did though.

          8 votes
          1. BeardyHat
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            Still haven't seen that one, but my wife watched it while I was out of town earlier in the year and keeps suggesting it.

            Still haven't seen that one, but my wife watched it while I was out of town earlier in the year and keeps suggesting it.

            1 vote
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          babypuncher
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          well in the northman's case they don't even make enough to break even.

          well in the northman's case they don't even make enough to break even.

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            It made a ton in after market though

            It made a ton in after market though

      3. Necronomicommunist
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        I didn't like the Northman. The moment it was billed as "the next Gladiator" I started having reservations. Maybe I was just disappointed that it wasn't more in line with Eggers' other work.

        I didn't like the Northman. The moment it was billed as "the next Gladiator" I started having reservations. Maybe I was just disappointed that it wasn't more in line with Eggers' other work.

        3 votes
    2. [7]
      Omnicrola
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      OTOH, if there was a kid who was born in the 80s, and they grew up holding one of these franchises as their absolute favorite thing in the whole world, and now they're at the top of their game as...

      OTOH, if there was a kid who was born in the 80s, and they grew up holding one of these franchises as their absolute favorite thing in the whole world, and now they're at the top of their game as a writer/director/producer/etc, and they have the influence and talent to do that sequel they've been wanting to do for 30+ years ... can you blame them?

      Does it always work out? Of course not. Not all ideas are good, not all scripts remain untarnished by the greed of execs, and not all good ideas actually get made.

      Point is, I'm tired of every time a reboot or sequel debuts there's a crowd of folks lined up to decry the lack of originality in Hollywood. I'm not saying that isn't a valid criticism, or that we as audience members shouldn't demand original content. What I'm saying is that there are good reasons why people remake things, in addition to the very reasonable cynicism.

      Think of how many thousands of times a given Shakespeare play has been rebooted, remade, and re-imagined. If people make a good version of a story, people will enjoy watching it. Just because someone's already told that story doesn't mean it's not worth telling again.

      8 votes
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          BoomerTheMoose
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          The franchise doesn't mean as much to you as it does other people. To some people it means everything. To some, it was a source of childhood comfort in a scary world. Your entitled to your...

          The franchise doesn't mean as much to you as it does other people. To some people it means everything. To some, it was a source of childhood comfort in a scary world.

          Your entitled to your opinion, but I disagree with it. I'm happy to have had Ghostbusters in my life, and my first exposure was the cartoon, which wouldn't exist if you had your way.

          9 votes
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              BoomerTheMoose
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              If it "doesn't need to be made", then don't watch it. Coming into a thread and dunking on the collective IP just doesn't seem productive to me unless you want to stir up conflict. It sounds to me...

              If it "doesn't need to be made", then don't watch it. Coming into a thread and dunking on the collective IP just doesn't seem productive to me unless you want to stir up conflict.

              It sounds to me like a stuffy film student kidnapped your inner child and locked them away, or otherwise told them they shouldn't have liked what they liked.

              If it truly brought you joy, who cares if a Hollywood exec made money off it?

              6 votes
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                  BoomerTheMoose
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                  You're saying you don't want to fight... 2 posts after baiting for a fight. I'm confused as to how you didn't think your negative opinion wouldn't result in being challenged on it in a thread...

                  All I did was post my opinion. I'm not interested in fighting with people.

                  You're saying you don't want to fight... 2 posts after baiting for a fight.

                  I'm confused as to how you didn't think your negative opinion wouldn't result in being challenged on it in a thread dedicated to a new film in the franchise.

                  5 votes
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                    1. BoomerTheMoose
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                      Agree to disagree. I found the way you wrote your opinion to be the "inflammatory statement" in this conversation. 🤷 If you don't want your opinion challenged, why share it?

                      Agree to disagree. I found the way you wrote your opinion to be the "inflammatory statement" in this conversation. 🤷

                      If you don't want your opinion challenged, why share it?

                      4 votes
        2. zipf_slaw
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          But the final product is not always up to the director. Studio execs and producers have sway over the product, much to the chagrin of directors, actors, editors, etc.

          If they're at the "top of their game", they could do far better.

          But the final product is not always up to the director. Studio execs and producers have sway over the product, much to the chagrin of directors, actors, editors, etc.

          3 votes
      2. zipf_slaw
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        Everything is a remix. All the stories have been told for a long time now, just with different skins and settings. And considering the rate that new content is being created relative to the 80's...

        Everything is a remix. All the stories have been told for a long time now, just with different skins and settings. And considering the rate that new content is being created relative to the 80's is it any wonder that we're "complaining" about lack of originality more and more and more these days?

        Everything is a remix, pt 1

        2 votes
    3. Eji1700
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      That's just it. This is basically 0 effort. You take a script somewhere that's a generic action plot. You then find and replace anything unique about it with "ghostbusters". From there you farm...

      all this effort

      That's just it. This is basically 0 effort.

      You take a script somewhere that's a generic action plot. You then find and replace anything unique about it with "ghostbusters". From there you farm out the trailer to "generic action trailer co limited" and it sounds like every other trailer you've ever heard.

      The costs aren't even high vs expected returns. Afterlife cost 75 million and took in 200 million.

      If this works, why would you do anything else? That is the unfortunate issue for the rest of us who have seen this kind of movie for the 100th time, but it's worth remembering that on some level these movies are made for the vast majority. People who either don't care, or who for them it is the first time.

      And getting to slap a label everyone knows on it ensures it succeeds when it's fail miserably otherwise. I don't like it, but it's not about to stop until they figure out how to make new content that catches on to the levels Marvel did.

      2 votes
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    BoomerTheMoose
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    I disagree with some of the other comments here, I'm stoked for a new Ghostbusters movie, and I think that some of the ideas presented are unique. The villain looks visually striking, and the idea...

    I disagree with some of the other comments here, I'm stoked for a new Ghostbusters movie, and I think that some of the ideas presented are unique. The villain looks visually striking, and the idea of folks frozen to death with fear is pretty spooky.

    Glad to see it's a continuation with the cast of Afterlife, excited to see more with the new kids. Paul Rudd is always a joy and the addition of Patton Oswalt is quite welcome.

    Overall I'm excited to see how this movie is. I found Afterlife to be quite enjoyable and I'm glad to see it's storyline continue on.

    Bustin' makes me feel good! 👻

    15 votes
    1. Icejacket
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      I agree. Someone pointed out somewhere else that part of what made the original Ghostbusters good is that it's a comedy superimposed on top of an apocalyptic horror movie. I think apocalyptic...

      I agree. Someone pointed out somewhere else that part of what made the original Ghostbusters good is that it's a comedy superimposed on top of an apocalyptic horror movie. I think apocalyptic disaster movie has the potential to work well. I really thought that Afterlife worked and I'm excited for this one too.

      9 votes
    2. DavesWorld
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      Totally onboard. I really dug Afterlife, all except Wolfhard's arc. The actor was fine, he did what the script and project wanted him to; it's just I'm totally over the "awkward teenage boy with...

      Totally onboard. I really dug Afterlife, all except Wolfhard's arc.

      The actor was fine, he did what the script and project wanted him to; it's just I'm totally over the "awkward teenage boy with hormones finding out girls are girls" arcs. Which was the only thing he had to do in Afterlife. And, as far as I can tell, the only real reason for that arc was to try and inject some sort of stakes into the third act by having his romantic interest be one of the hellhounds, because we needed/wanted Mom to be Mom during the big reveal when Egon shows up.

      I want more Mckenna Grace. She was even more fantastic in Afterlife than she was in *Gifted. Throughout the movie she was funny and interesting. She was ready to believe, and had the skills to make all the big things happen. Basically, every other character would have been eaten if she hadn't been herself, which was super cool and I want more of that in Frozen Empire. A smart character being smart. Would it be nice if they made less fun of her, yes. But it's sort of okay because every time things get actually important, they turn to her to unlock progress which is the part she cares about. And is ready to kick ass at.

      I'm ready to enjoy Frozen Empire. I thought, for a teaser, it was good; it's got me interested. They're back in New York, and shit's gonna go down. Somehow, somewhere, the Ghostbusters are gonna be mixed up in it.

      That's enough for me, really. I'm good. Write a solid script with spooky ghosts Doing Stuff and the Ghostbusters have to figure it out and stop it. That's a Ghostbusters story. I'm sold, let's do it. The OGs will be in there somewhere, and that'll be fun, but let's follow Egon's granddaughter leading the way into the next chapter of Ghostbusting. She's the one who gets it, and she's the fun part.

      4 votes
  3. JXM
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    I don't see anything visually inventive or exciting here. Just the same generic destruction of a city that we get in every disaster movie trailer. I've liked all of the director's previous films...

    I don't see anything visually inventive or exciting here. Just the same generic destruction of a city that we get in every disaster movie trailer. I've liked all of the director's previous films (especially Monster House) and think he has a very good eye for visuals, but I'm not really seeing any of that come through here.

    10 votes
  4. mild_takes
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    Shut up and take my money

    Shut up and take my money

    3 votes