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The "Disney Vault" is open - Disney’s new streaming service will include "the entire Disney motion picture library"

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  1. [7]
    Rocket_Man Link
    Unfortunately I predict Disney is going to be very successful with this. They'll release a large library of high quality films; all of them will be free and the cost of the service will be fairly...

    Unfortunately I predict Disney is going to be very successful with this. They'll release a large library of high quality films; all of them will be free and the cost of the service will be fairly low. It'll do very well initially, but some people will leave due to a lack of new content. That wont matter however, because they'll see continuous growth from parents getting it for their kids.

    By then it'll be established as it's own thing and they'll slowly raise prices every once in a while. It wont overtake Netflix, but It'll become a real part of the streaming landscape.

    17 votes
    1. [4]
      mrbig Link Parent
      I think no other company has enough IP to pull that off, though.

      I think no other company has enough IP to pull that off, though.

      13 votes
      1. [2]
        SourceContribute Link Parent
        Yeah exactly, we'll see some kind of consortium or some other industry group form (maybe) that will allow standardized sharing of revenues in exchange for access to IP. Or we'll see more new...

        Yeah exactly, we'll see some kind of consortium or some other industry group form (maybe) that will allow standardized sharing of revenues in exchange for access to IP. Or we'll see more new content; I can see Netflix getting into streaming esports or sports in general, but I can't see Disney really doing that.

        2 votes
        1. jackson Link Parent
          Disney owns ESPN, so I can see that happening pretty easily.

          Disney owns ESPN, so I can see that happening pretty easily.

          5 votes
      2. Hypersapien Link Parent
        Especially with Disney's acquisition of Fox's entertainment library.

        Especially with Disney's acquisition of Fox's entertainment library.

        2 votes
    2. babypuncher (edited ) Link Parent
      I don't necessarily see this as a bad thing. People seem to be entitled to everything being available on a single $10/month service, which just isn't viable unless the global production of new...

      I don't necessarily see this as a bad thing. People seem to be entitled to everything being available on a single $10/month service, which just isn't viable unless the global production of new content gets cut drastically.

      People see it as a return to cable where you need to spend $100+/month to get your shows, but I don't think that's true. What we have now is what we all wanted back when we were forced into local cable monopolies: a la carte channels. You're only paying cable prices if for some reason you believe you need access to all the content at all times.

      On top of this, there is no longer a local monopoly (or any monopoly) to contend with; Netflix, HBO, Hulu, and Disney all have to compete with eachother. I think prices and service quality will be kept reasonably in check by this, since cancelling any one service is so trivially easy if the experience isn't up to par.

      4 votes
    3. SourceContribute Link Parent
      This is the power of the back-catalog, and why if you're a creator (writer, artist, whatever) you should just post all your in progress and finish works as soon as possible because in 5 years, 10...

      This is the power of the back-catalog, and why if you're a creator (writer, artist, whatever) you should just post all your in progress and finish works as soon as possible because in 5 years, 10 years or 50+ years later, someone somewhere will still pay for it.

      It's hard to compete with Disney's back-catalog. Creating more new content for Netflix is okay, but Disney has been doing it for decades and they've got the infrastructure for it while Netflix has to play catch-up. Possibly if Netflix's deal-makers/account execs are any good they'll be able to acquire more access to other films. We just watched Lord of the Rings again for example, I doubt Disney's service could give us access to that.

      1 vote
  2. [4]
    Tlon_Uqbar Link
    I'm going to go ahead and guess that doesn't include Song of the South.

    I'm going to go ahead and guess that doesn't include Song of the South.

    10 votes
    1. [2]
      Hypersapien Link Parent
      Or the original theatrical release version of Fantasia.

      Or the original theatrical release version of Fantasia.

      4 votes
      1. babypuncher Link Parent
        Honestly that segment from Fantasia has aged much worse than Song of the South. I'd be content with Disney releasing that scene as a separate extra on the DVD with a disclaimer similar to the one...

        Honestly that segment from Fantasia has aged much worse than Song of the South. I'd be content with Disney releasing that scene as a separate extra on the DVD with a disclaimer similar to the one WB uses for old Looney Tunes, but I don't blame them from taking it out of the current cut of the film.

    2. cgrrr Link Parent
      Clicked on the comments here to see this one, scrolling on with thumbs-up relief.

      Clicked on the comments here to see this one, scrolling on with thumbs-up relief.

      1 vote
  3. [11]
    escher (edited ) Link
    I'm very much not looking forward to this future where each and every studio has their own streaming account service. I'm already signed up with four (two regular, two anime) and that's really...

    I'm very much not looking forward to this future where each and every studio has their own streaming account service. I'm already signed up with four (two regular, two anime) and that's really pushing things. I'll not be signing up for a 5th.

    10 votes
    1. SusanStoHelit Link Parent
      Going down this path in future I can see myself swapping around between services in different months to try and keep my entertainment budget in check. No way can i let it get any higher than it...

      Going down this path in future I can see myself swapping around between services in different months to try and keep my entertainment budget in check. No way can i let it get any higher than it already is - and I only have a few services running.

      4 votes
    2. [6]
      teaearlgraycold Link Parent
      I'm sensing a boom in media piracy.

      I'm sensing a boom in media piracy.

      1 vote
      1. babypuncher Link Parent
        I don't think this is the case. Piracy was always more of an accessibility problem. I don't think most people will have a problem with only keeping 2-3 persistent streaming services then...

        I don't think this is the case. Piracy was always more of an accessibility problem. I don't think most people will have a problem with only keeping 2-3 persistent streaming services then occasionally subbing to others for a month or two at a time to catch a new show.

        I've done it two seasons in a row for Star Trek: Discovery, and it's just not enough of a hassle (or a cost) to make me consider going back to piracy.

        1 vote
      2. [4]
        RapidEyeMovement Link Parent
        Piracy isn't as easy as it used to be. You also need a VPN service which can cost as much as one of these content services.

        Piracy isn't as easy as it used to be.

        You also need a VPN service which can cost as much as one of these content services.

        1. teaearlgraycold Link Parent
          Why do you say that? Also, whether or not you need a VPN depends on your ISP.

          Piracy isn't as easy as it used to be.

          Why do you say that?

          Also, whether or not you need a VPN depends on your ISP.

          3 votes
        2. zendainc Link Parent
          Piracy has literally never been easier. It's 2019, and even old people are learning that they can just install an extension and boom....pirated content available at their fingertips, with the ease...

          Piracy has literally never been easier. It's 2019, and even old people are learning that they can just install an extension and boom....pirated content available at their fingertips, with the ease of using something like Netflix.

        3. Weldawadyathink Link Parent
          I pay around $2/month (albeit paid in a 2 year chunk up front) for my VPN. Show me a streaming service I can get for $2/month.

          I pay around $2/month (albeit paid in a 2 year chunk up front) for my VPN. Show me a streaming service I can get for $2/month.

    3. [3]
      RapidEyeMovement Link Parent
      Good luck, we killed cable but created a multi-headed Hydra of individual content silos all peddling their own services. Wonder how long it will take to get some of the smaller ones to start...

      Good luck, we killed cable but created a multi-headed Hydra of individual content silos all peddling their own services.

      Wonder how long it will take to get some of the smaller ones to start bundling together to compete with the big boys

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        edward Link Parent
        VRV

        Wonder how long it will take to get some of the smaller ones to start bundling together to compete with the big boys

        VRV

        2 votes
        1. babypuncher Link Parent
          VRV is a pile of hot trash. I subbed to them for about 6 months, mainly to get Funimation and Crunchyroll together at a discount. Their Roku app was (and probably still is) flat out broken,...

          VRV is a pile of hot trash.

          I subbed to them for about 6 months, mainly to get Funimation and Crunchyroll together at a discount. Their Roku app was (and probably still is) flat out broken, causing the entire device to crash when you click on a show from anywhere other than your watch list. In order to watch shows on my TV, I had to manually add episodes to my watchlist on my phone or through a web browser. How such a showstopping bug has lasted so long in production code is mind-boggling. I doubt Netflix would still be around if the Wii or Xbox 360 version of their app was this broken back in 2009.

          Late last year they lost Funimation and I told them to fuck off.

          3 votes
  4. [5]
    little_bowser Link
    honestly depends on the price point for the service. If it's $10 a month I'd totally get it. If it's $15-20 I'd have a long think. Maybe get in on occasion when I'm feeling a Disney movie itch. If...

    honestly depends on the price point for the service. If it's $10 a month I'd totally get it. If it's $15-20 I'd have a long think. Maybe get in on occasion when I'm feeling a Disney movie itch. If it's $20-40 that will be a hard pass for me.

    5 votes
    1. [4]
      mrbig Link Parent
      I think it carries a greater value for anyone who has kids.

      I think it carries a greater value for anyone who has kids.

      8 votes
      1. Sahasrahla Link Parent
        That's a good point. I could see myself going on a nostalgic binge every now and then or trying to find something new but it doesn't seem like a subscription service I'd want to pay for every...

        That's a good point. I could see myself going on a nostalgic binge every now and then or trying to find something new but it doesn't seem like a subscription service I'd want to pay for every month. For people with kids though that could be great. (Especially since you wouldn't have to worry about what they'd find on it like you would with YouTube.)

        2 votes
      2. [2]
        babypuncher Link Parent
        This is actually pretty huge. With most services there is a lot of adult and children's content, and separating the two can be difficult. Letting your kids just roam free on the Disney service...

        This is actually pretty huge. With most services there is a lot of adult and children's content, and separating the two can be difficult.

        Letting your kids just roam free on the Disney service without having to worry about them stumbling into Game of Thrones or Mindhunter would be pretty liberating.

        I don't have kids, so I just see myself only subscribing occasionally to catch the one or two things that might interest me.

        1 vote
        1. elcuello Link Parent
          That's why you have different profiles for you children so I don't see how this is an issue.

          Letting your kids just roam free on the Disney service without having to worry about them stumbling into Game of Thrones or Mindhunter would be pretty liberating.

          That's why you have different profiles for you children so I don't see how this is an issue.

          2 votes
  5. [4]
    base_class Link
    When I was a kid movies were special in that we couldn't see any movie at anytime. I remember waiting forever to see some movies because I couldn't get a hold of the VHS tape anywhere and you...

    When I was a kid movies were special in that we couldn't see any movie at anytime. I remember waiting forever to see some movies because I couldn't get a hold of the VHS tape anywhere and you couldn't just order one on Amazon. I wonder if all these streaming services will make them be less special for future generations.
    I don't think I would have loved Disney movies so much if I could just watch them at anytime with a click of a button.

    5 votes
    1. [2]
      UniquelyGeneric Link Parent
      Even the ritual of rewinding and playing a vhs made that moment more special. I think with the accessibility of streaming services, we’ve lost a little bit of the experience of watching motion...

      Even the ritual of rewinding and playing a vhs made that moment more special. I think with the accessibility of streaming services, we’ve lost a little bit of the experience of watching motion pictures. I think the medium lends itself well for tv shows, but movies seem too much of a time investment for many people. I tend to have to watch movies alone, because the only movies people want to sit down for are usually some blockbuster at the theatre.

      Disney certainly has monumental cultural value with its classics, but I feel they also lead the way in making big budget cheap thrills. Maybe I’m attributing to one company what an entire industry is reflecting with the average American’s attention span, but the rise of streaming services is surely changing viewing behavior and therefore the content made for it.

      2 votes
      1. base_class Link Parent
        You're right. I'd totally forgotten about rewinding! There was even always a debate about whether to rewind the movie after it's over or let the next guy rewind... I find myself in a similar...

        Even the ritual of rewinding and playing a vhs made that moment more special.

        You're right. I'd totally forgotten about rewinding! There was even always a debate about whether to rewind the movie after it's over or let the next guy rewind...

        I think the medium lends itself well for tv shows, but movies seem too much of a time investment for many people. I tend to have to watch movies alone, because the only movies people want to sit down for are usually some blockbuster at the theatre.

        I find myself in a similar situation, and because I don't enjoy watching movies alone I almost never see those movies until years later when their on HBO and I'm just chilling in front of the TV with my laptop open, not giving it the attention it deserves. With all the options available, everyone always has "something better" to watch or do. I always enjoyed the social aspect of watching movies or TV shows in a group and I really miss that now.

        2 votes
    2. SourceContribute Link Parent
      There definitely needs to be a physical version of movies that can be purchased; for example, being able to get an LOTR poster or book of art from the movie after or before watching the movie...

      There definitely needs to be a physical version of movies that can be purchased; for example, being able to get an LOTR poster or book of art from the movie after or before watching the movie would be awesome. Just like with bands that offer vinyls or expensive collectible packages with album art, lyrics, t-shirts, whatever.

      Maybe that's the missing link; being able to order up a t-shirt through Netflix and when it arrives, having Netflix show a notification saying "hey, hope you enjoy the shirt, want to watch the movie again?'.

      2 votes
  6. [8]
    DonQuixote Link
    My guess is most of the good stuff will be pay for view. It's annoying, but so many of the streaming services are doing this now. 1) Pay for internet/data 2) Pay for the specialized service 3)Pay...

    “It’s going to combine both the old and the new,” Iger continued. “All of the films that we’re releasing this year, [starting] with Captain Marvel, will also be on the service.”

    My guess is most of the good stuff will be pay for view. It's annoying, but so many of the streaming services are doing this now. 1) Pay for internet/data 2) Pay for the specialized service 3)Pay to view/own. Most likely, within a generation, content will be more expensive than going to Redbox, which won't exist of course.

    3 votes
    1. [5]
      SmithMcMagnum Link Parent
      Can you list an example? I haven't heard of a streaming service that operates this way. The most I've seen are the extra add-on channels. But, I've never seen a set-up of having to pay for the...

      Can you list an example? I haven't heard of a streaming service that operates this way. The most I've seen are the extra add-on channels. But, I've never seen a set-up of having to pay for the service and then pay extra to view the content.

      4 votes
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        1. SmithMcMagnum Link Parent
          But, those streams are available without the subscription to Prime. Those are just movies to rent/buy through Amazon.

          But, those streams are available without the subscription to Prime. Those are just movies to rent/buy through Amazon.

          9 votes
        2. Whom Link Parent
          Those don't require Prime Video to buy though, do they?

          Those don't require Prime Video to buy though, do they?

          5 votes
        3. babypuncher Link Parent
          They aren't locked behind an additional charge, renting or purchasing those streams doesn't require Amazon Prime. Disney has made it pretty clear that this will be a subscription based service, I...

          there's a whole extra catalog of streams that are locked behind an additional charge.

          They aren't locked behind an additional charge, renting or purchasing those streams doesn't require Amazon Prime.

          Disney has made it pretty clear that this will be a subscription based service, I think they will leave paid rentals and purchases to Movies Anywhere platforms like Vudu and iTunes.

          2 votes
      2. DonQuixote Link Parent
        Amazon Prime if I'm not mistaken. Thought I saw this at a friend's last weekend.

        Amazon Prime if I'm not mistaken. Thought I saw this at a friend's last weekend.

    2. Cosmos Link Parent
      It'll be more expensive than cable too.

      It'll be more expensive than cable too.

      1 vote
    3. babypuncher Link Parent
      Disney hasn't said anything about pulling their movies from pay-per-view/Movies Anywhere services like Vudu or iTunes. In fact, it's highly unlikely they would since Disney created the Movies...

      Disney hasn't said anything about pulling their movies from pay-per-view/Movies Anywhere services like Vudu or iTunes. In fact, it's highly unlikely they would since Disney created the Movies Anywhere program.

      My guess is that films will arrive on the streaming service some time after they've been released for purchase on Blu-Ray and Movies Anywhere, just like they currently do with Netflix.

      1 vote