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‘Weapons’ ($42.5M DOM/$70M WW) freaks ‘Freakier Friday’ ($29M DOM/$45M WW) out a bit, Warner Bros’ 2025 box office rally continues
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Who will be the next Air Bud? Nationwide search for a star golden retriever begins.
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So what happened? Revisiting the superhero and box office questions.
Nearly two years ago, I made a post titled "On the superhero question" and three years ago I made a retrospective on the box office since theaters closed in 2020. So I figured it was time for an...
Nearly two years ago, I made a post titled "On the superhero question" and three years ago I made a retrospective on the box office since theaters closed in 2020.
So I figured it was time for an update.
Re-reading those posts makes me realize how optimistic the theatrical landscape seemed in the wake of Barbenheimer. I don't think I was alone in that; I think the industry felt optimism from that cultural moment as well. That same year was when superhero films imploded, so there was this idea that audiences wanted "real" films. They wanted films by "real" directors, and now there was some discernment from audiences. Grouping both Barbie and Mario, it spoke to the value that other IP now has.
The landscape became much more depressing in 2024. It seems like the idea of audiences flocking to other types of films did not happen. After consistent growth, the box office fell in 2024 from 2023. I remember the panic that the industry felt after both The Fall Guy and Furiosa: A Mad Max Story flopped at the box office. But Inside Out 2, Deadpool and Wolverine breaking out balanced out those disappointments.
Speaking of Deadpool and Wolverine, I remember my prediction of the film being that it would be the lowest-grossing of the Deadpool franchise. Not only that, but I predicted that Joker 2 would outgross it, and we all know how that played out.
Because Deadpool and Wolverine did so well, it delayed the narrative that had been forming throughout 2023, the "superhero fatigue" narrative. It wasn't until now that the narrative is back, and it seems like Deadpool and Wolverine was more of an exception. The film needed 20 years of nostalgia to power it to those numbers. Something under-discussed about D&W's performance is that it was more domestic-heavy than a lot of billion-dollar MCU films (47% DOM split when many of them were in the 30% range throughout the 2010s). Spider-Man: No Way Home also had a split in the 40s, which perhaps was an omen for what was to come.
There were other overperformers throughout 2024, don't get me wrong. Wicked, making over 400M DOM and 700M WW, was not something people were expecting early on. Mufasa: The Lion King still made over 700M WW despite a mediocre reception and a "why would you make this?" issue. But there was certainly a depth issue. Fewer films hit the 100M DOM mark in 2024 than in 2023, and the rest of the top 100 films made less in 2024 than in 2023. It did feel like many films underperformed or did not reach their full potential, which would have helped out the overall box office. Many horror films like Abigail, Night Swim, MaXXXine, could have done better but didn't. Gladiator II would have likely done better if it had been better received. Twisters and Beetlejuice Beetlejuice did well, but didn't get the late legs that would have driven it to 300M totals. Bad Boys: Ride or Die decreased from the previous film. Red One and Bob Marley: One Love didn't crawl past the 100M DOM mark. Little things like that that add up.
So how's 2025 looking so far?
In short, not great. We're currently lagging behind 2024 during the same calendar year. Inside Out 2 and Deadpool and Wolverine contributed over 600M DOM each, while our highest-grossing film this year so far is still A Minecraft Movie, and that didn't even hit 500M DOM (it probably would have if word of mouth wasn't horrendous). We do have three big films left for the year: Zootopia 2, Wicked: For Good, and Avatar: Ash and Fire. All three are potential 500M DOM grossers, although Avatar will be making a majority of its money in the 2026 calendar year. There are also smaller-scale studio films hoping to break out, such as The Running Man, Tron: Ares, and Predator: Badlands.
The issue, though, is that many of these films can underperform, and that's been a common theme this past year. The well-received Thunderbolts could not get in the black, and the much-anticipated Fantastic Four is going to barely break even theatrically. Even Superman, with its great legs, will end up below what many superhero films did during the peak, even mediocre or lesser-known superheroes. It does seem like the box office will continue to collapse since nothing is filling that Disney-sized void. Outside of superhero films, Lilo and Stitch didn't perform as well as it could have and neither did Minecraft.
So it's kind of grim. I mean, in reality, movie-going reached its peak in 2002. It has been declining in admissions ever since. So it was perhaps naive to think that the growth we experienced from 2021 to 2023 would continue. But it really seems like the domestic box office will continue to decline, and the international box office has collapsed for a lot of Hollywood films, specifically comic book films. So we're entering a very different landscape, a much more muted world for films from now on. And it will likely continue to shrink.
Now markets shift, they can shift back up. The international market can be brought up again (Superhero movies used to always play better with domestic audiences). But I'm certainly not as optimistic as I once was.
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Box office: ‘Fantastic Four’ craters by 66% in second weekend
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Adam Sandler’s ‘Happy Gilmore 2’ debuts to 46.7 million views, biggest Netflix US film opening ever
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Box office: ‘The Fantastic Four: First Steps’ lifts off with heroic $118 million domestic debut, $100 million overseas, $218 million worldwide
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US Federal Communications Commission approves Paramount-Skydance merger following protracted political tug-of-war
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‘Superman’s $57m second weekend propels Warner Bros. to top of YTD studio marketshare with $1.32b
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Billie Eilish announces James Cameron 3D collab in Manchester
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‘The Odyssey’ 70mm IMAX tickets are going on sale a year in advance — This Thursday, July 17
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Legendary is mulling acquisition of Lionsgate Studios
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Studios decry cinemas’ ad-filled preshows as AMC warns of “25-30 extra minutes”: Here are the consequences for movie biz
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Michael Madsen, ‘Reservoir Dogs’ actor, dies at 67
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After ‘M3GAN 2.0,’ Blumhouse’s box office slump is at eighteen months and counting
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Inside ‘Elio’s’ “catastrophic” path: America Ferrera’s exit, director change and erasure of queer themes
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Matt Reeves finally completes ‘The Batman 2’ script
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‘Elio’ box office flop: Why can’t Pixar launch original films?
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Johnny Depp says he has “no regrets” about Amber Heard trial and was a “crash test dummy for #MeToo”
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Most US exhibition execs think traditional moviegoing has less than twenty years as ‘viable business model,’ according to new survey
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A24 sets horror movie ‘The Backrooms’ from 19-year-old Kane Parsons, youngest director in studio’s history
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‘How To Train Your Dragon’ fires up franchise best $83m+ opening
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Everyone in Hollywood is already using AI (and hiding it)
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Every Wes Anderson movie, explained by Wes Anderson
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The Lost Bus | Official teaser
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‘Texas Chainsaw Massacre’ bidding war begins – Taylor Sheridan, Neon and Jordan Peele’s Monkeypaw Productions among names in the mix
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Hollywood has left Los Angeles. For years, studios found it cheaper to shoot elsewhere. Post-industry-collapse, elsewhere is the only place they’ll shoot.
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Amazon MGM Studios in talks to acquire hot video game package ‘Split Fiction’ teaming Jon M. Chu and Sydney Sweeney
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Jerry Lewis' lost 1972 comedy film on Nazism discovered in Sweden
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Paramount offers millions to US President Donald Trump to end $20B ‘60 Minutes’ suit and let Skydance merger go through
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Record $322m Memorial Day weekend: ‘Lilo & Stitch’ dancing to $180m holiday high, ‘Mission: Impossible 8’ $77m
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Marvel and Disney VFX workers ratify first union contract
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AMC to slash movie ticket prices by 50% on Wednesdays
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Ryan Coogler’s ‘Sinners’ is the first Oscar movie of 2025
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How Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood discovered a new generation of stars
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First look at Stephen King's 'The Long Walk'
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Four fanboy flicks bomb out in Deadline’s 2024 most valuable blockbuster tournament
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The icy glamour of Greta Garbo's doomed heroines is genuinely iconic – over a century after her first appearance, here's why Hollywood missed her so badly
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Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith to have a limited theatrical re-release beginning April 25th
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Oscars finally give stunts their day, will add category beginning in 2027
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‘A Minecraft Movie’ at $157m a record opening for videogame pic, toppling ‘Super Mario Bros’; Warner Bros brings the box office back alive
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Val Kilmer, film star who played Batman and Jim Morrison, dies at 65
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Amazon’s new movie strategy starts with theaters
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Warner Bros negotiating big sale of shelved ‘Coyote Vs. Acme’ movie
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‘Legend of Zelda’ film sets March 2027 theatrical release from Sony Pictures
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Mike De Luca and Pam Abdy under fire at Warner Bros. amid box office flops: ‘We didn’t want to fail’ David Zaslav
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It’s Boulder! Sundance exits Utah for 2027 move to blue state Colorado.
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Ho-hum, ho-hum: ‘Snow White’ opens to $43m — what poisoned this princess at the box office
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Hollywood’s IP dilemma | Whether it’s “Novocaine,” “Mickey 17” or the “Oceans” director’s latest, audiences are slow to show up for original films
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Disney scales back ‘Snow White’ Hollywood premiere amid Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot controversies
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