I went into this pretty skeptical and expecting dubious red string connections, however the author has absolutely done their homework. I think the title does the actual article a disservice...
I went into this pretty skeptical and expecting dubious red string connections, however the author has absolutely done their homework. I think the title does the actual article a disservice though. Trump IS building a ballroom (which will no doubt be his own brand of tacky extravagant). However, the construction of the ballroom is very likely a distraction (as is this administration's specialty) to draw attention away from the fact that under that ballroom they are probably also constructing a state of the art, hardened, military data center facility.
On one hand, trump doing something superficial and ego boosting in general just doesn't raise eyebrows because he does it constantly. On the other hand, because he does it constantly it would be very easy for the admin to slip stuff passed notice because it's now easy to dismiss "trump just being trump."
Short read and a pretty compelling idea. Hard to feel like any of this investment is worth while. Though it does worry me to see war mongers actively making preparations to be able to conduct even more aggressive conflicts.
A detail that the author doesn't cite, or if they do it's buried in the sources but not referenced: That any of this has anything at all to do with AI. Or autonomous decision making. Or anything...
however the author has absolutely done their homework.
A detail that the author doesn't cite, or if they do it's buried in the sources but not referenced: That any of this has anything at all to do with AI. Or autonomous decision making. Or anything like that. Data center? Sure. Quite possible. But AI? I mean, I won't categorically say no, but I see no indication of this being built with AI in mind.
I'm also unconvinced about the insinuation that the Jerusalem data center is doing any kind of AI decision making or targeting in Gaza. For all I know, the data center is just a normal government data center. Holding your tax records, allowing you to file for unemployment benefits, banale things like that. The intelligence branches are involved? Ok, sure, they probably need somewhere to store their satellite imagery.
Not that any of this dimishes the fucked-up-ness of the project by much, even if I feel AI is being invoked as the boogeyman here. Even if Trump just centralized tax records in the White House, that's already a bad sign for the US, but "the military is very much involved" just makes this even worse. I'm thinking this could be the DOGE data grab, except this time under a mantle of a bit more legitimacy, and even less actual accountability, and bigger.
Without a doubt this is well into educated speculation territory. That said, I think this administration is weirdly enthusiastic about the current AI hype. So to think trump's bought full force...
Without a doubt this is well into educated speculation territory. That said, I think this administration is weirdly enthusiastic about the current AI hype. So to think trump's bought full force into "the power of AI!" wouldn't be a surprising outcome here. I think the authors speculation about AI is really tied to the donor company's and their recent push for an AI arms race. Wouldn't be surprising if they're all collaborating with the admin to push full force into the next form of advanced weapons grade AI. Which I'm sure several other countries are quietly doing as well. Hard to say
This reads like a conspiracy theory to me. It makes sense for the government to build very secure data centers. It doesn't make sense to build it under the White House rather than, say, under...
This reads like a conspiracy theory to me.
It makes sense for the government to build very secure data centers. It doesn't make sense to build it under the White House rather than, say, under Cheyenne mountain. The US is a much larger country than Israel and there are more places to put things.
Particularly since Washington DC is built on a swamp. Going deep underground is very difficult.
And I expect Trump wants his ballroom finished before his term is up?
Agreed, though I'm not sure we can assume that Donald has a lick of sense, which means he's capable of even the most harebrained schemes. Of course, "Donald is a fucking idiot" isn't the most...
Agreed, though I'm not sure we can assume that Donald has a lick of sense, which means he's capable of even the most harebrained schemes.
Of course, "Donald is a fucking idiot" isn't the most compelling justification for a conspiracy. You could also use the same logic to explain him starting a war in South America, or annexing a peaceful and quiet foreign country, or renaming longstanding bodies of water for completely random reasons.
But there is one great reason that they can't put a datacenter in Cheyenne Mountain Complex: the Stargate already consumes a lot of energy and would put the data at risk of extraterrestrial exfiltration.
Putting it under the White House makes a ton of sense if you want it to be a secret project controlled exclusively by the president, with no oversight from Congress or involvement of military...
Putting it under the White House makes a ton of sense if you want it to be a secret project controlled exclusively by the president, with no oversight from Congress or involvement of military officials who have quaint ideas like loyalty to the constitution.
And, as mentioned briefly in the article, its development and installation closest to the seat of government is specifically so that if the US was under attack, if DC was taken siege, or a civil...
And, as mentioned briefly in the article, its development and installation closest to the seat of government is specifically so that if the US was under attack, if DC was taken siege, or a civil war is being undertaken, you would have direct access to an airgapped, state of the art, AI control center, with the ability to make decisions autonomously, quickly, and efficiently for the protection of the country (or, the current government - two different things!) and the seat of power. In the case of war, and your capital is under risk of attack, do you want to be separated from your intelligence and AI capabilities - especially if your enemy has one?
This is quite literally a retrofit job, they are modernizing, enhancing, and extending the Presidential Emergency Operations Center. it's already there, they are just making it vastly more future-forward. When they started destroying the East Wing, this is precisely what I thought was the real reasoning, and I am more than happy to have some form of unauthorized validaiton of that.
This additionally makes the case that he abruptly stood up and stared out the meeting with his oil execs this week and remarked how beautiful all the work has been on the property - even though they haven't made any (visible) changes since the destruction of the east wing last month, make a lot of sense, even in his drug and dementia-riddled mind.
Bunker upgrades are what occurred to me, as well. We don't know what's going to happen after the next election, but considering what happened last time I'd be surprised if he didn't decide to dig...
Bunker upgrades are what occurred to me, as well. We don't know what's going to happen after the next election, but considering what happened last time I'd be surprised if he didn't decide to dig in and refuse to leave.
Physical proximity to a data center is basically irrelevant. The whole point of data centers is that they're places that information is processed. Information is very easy to move long distances....
Physical proximity to a data center is basically irrelevant. The whole point of data centers is that they're places that information is processed. Information is very easy to move long distances. There's no reason why a data center in VA or Maryland wouldnt be able to be every bit as connected to the president as one 150 feet underneath him.
It's a really nonsensical place to build one.
Upgrading and enhancing a command bunker? Sure. Building a massive data center? Pretty silly.
Hey, this looks familiar! š I debated whether I should make a full post about this, when I came across it last month. Ultimately decided not to because it appears so... nutty. But it's really...
Hey, this looks familiar! š
I debated whether I should make a full post about this, when I came across it last month. Ultimately decided not to because it appears so... nutty. But it's really compelling, and supported by a ton of actual evidence. At this point I'd say I'm won over. Not sure she's 100% right but there's certainly enough here to cast suspicion on the official narrative.
TBH though I'm just burned out on conspiracy theories since, I guess, when QAnon went mainstream and turned everybody's parents into MAGA brainrot and the evil elites decided to start doing their most evil stuff right in the open because, it turns out, nobody really cares enough to stop them anyway. Actually diving into a grounded, receipts-carrying new theory feels almost quaint these days. It reminds me of when I got into Loose Change and the 9/11 truth stuff 20 years ago. I'm still embarrassed about that, so I guess I don't want to be too quick to sign up for another of its ilk.
I'd feel a lot better if a credible news org picked up the story and did some proper journalistic investigation into this. I tried to tip off one of them, actually, but they never wrote me back.
That Loose Change stuff duped us all. It was fresh, interesting counter culture takes that didn't resemble the evening news. Don't be too hard on yourself.
That Loose Change stuff duped us all. It was fresh, interesting counter culture takes that didn't resemble the evening news. Don't be too hard on yourself.
outside of the damage a lot of that has lead to, Loose Change and the other big videos were pretty fun to watch and bullshit about. ā¦ but itās like how some people can do a little coke and it...
outside of the damage a lot of that has lead to, Loose Change and the other big videos were pretty fun to watch and bullshit about.
ā¦ but itās like how some people can do a little coke and it doesnāt consume their life. :)
.... and the 9/11 truth stuff is more and more believable everyday and likely a rather common belief now among the people. Even 20 years Trevor Moore (RIP) was playing on both the inherit...
.... and the 9/11 truth stuff is more and more believable everyday and likely a rather common belief now among the people.
Even 20 years Trevor Moore (RIP) was playing on both the inherit understanding and acceptance of the event in a conspiratorial view, and the fact you absolutely couldn't talk about that publicly without being ostracized. Video - always a rewatch when it comes up.
I am one of those that believes that humans inherently need a few good conspiracy theories in their repertoire to have a more complete and grounded understanding of the world, it is a healthy coping method that teaches one to better question the world and learn more, better to be a skeptic than not. If you don't, you end up being enraptured by much worse conspiracies later as your default becomes to believe anything and take everything overly seriously. You need to have a little conspiracy, as a treat.
lol, I can see that. Maybe I'm too trusting of institutional media here in Canada, but I believe that with a big and broad enough information diet, the facts (as seen by journalists) are crazy...
lol, I can see that. Maybe I'm too trusting of institutional media here in Canada, but I believe that with a big and broad enough information diet, the facts (as seen by journalists) are crazy enough not to need conspiracies.
Personally, I think that those who become enraptured by conspiracies are simply people who have too naive a view of what truth is and in feeling betrayed by mainstream institutions, blindly land on the doorstep of subversive mainstream institutions.
That all said, if I had to choose a conspiracy to hitch my ride to it'd be that climate change is a hoax and that we can just keep-on keeping-on. It's bullshit, but my wishful thinking may help with the terror of this bus we're all in careening off a cliff in the next decades.
The important part is that they used private donations to prevent oversight so who knows what they are really doing in the foundation. The us government is incredibly broken from the perspective...
The important part is that they used private donations to prevent oversight so who knows what they are really doing in the foundation.
The us government is incredibly broken from the perspective of people who want a representative democracy. The president does something unconstitutional and damaging to the country, the citizens, and the world almost every day and somehow hasnāt been removed from office and jailed.
Iām sure the billionaire donors are pleased though.
Looks like this is maybe confirmed? Or at least now being speculatively reported on by CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/19/politics/east-wing-secret-bunker-construction-details And
Looks like this is maybe confirmed? Or at least now being speculatively reported on by CNN:
White House director of management and administration Joshua Fisher said broadly that the overall ballroom project will ā(enhance) mission critical functionality,ā āmake necessary security enhancementsā and ā(deliver) resilient, adaptive infrastructure aligned with future mission needs.ā
ā¦ he indicated that the ātop-secretā work taking place underground ā¦
āThere are some things regarding this project that are, frankly, of top-secret nature that we are currently working on. That does not preclude us from changing the above-grade structure, but that work needed to be considered when doing this project, which was not part of the NCPC process,ā he said.
And
āWith a high degree of confidence, I would say that all of the subterranean structures,ā including the PEOC, heating and air utilities, and underground facilities for the White House Military Office and US Secret Service Uniformed Division, āall of that seems to be gone,ā the second source said.
This is what Iāve been waiting for! Hereās hoping now that CNN is on the beat, other outlets will pick it up too. I know true Top Secret details arenāt going to leak but itās gratifying that...
This is what Iāve been waiting for! Hereās hoping now that CNN is on the beat, other outlets will pick it up too. I know true Top Secret details arenāt going to leak but itās gratifying that sources exist who are willing to confirm the basics.
Scary if true. The good thing though, is that he's old and unhealthy and has dementia, and that mega projects like this take a few years to build right? At the current recruitment rates they won't...
Scary if true. The good thing though, is that he's old and unhealthy and has dementia, and that mega projects like this take a few years to build right? At the current recruitment rates they won't be able to have enough ice police to defend against a sustained protest, and the regular police, military and national guards are unlikely to live round against American citizens. Let's see if the mid terms are called off first before being too worried about this.
Honestly if it wasn't this admin, having sovereign cloud that's crazy safe isn't by itself a bad idea. Nimbus is only evil because it's being used for genocide, not for existing
I went into this pretty skeptical and expecting dubious red string connections, however the author has absolutely done their homework. I think the title does the actual article a disservice though. Trump IS building a ballroom (which will no doubt be his own brand of tacky extravagant). However, the construction of the ballroom is very likely a distraction (as is this administration's specialty) to draw attention away from the fact that under that ballroom they are probably also constructing a state of the art, hardened, military data center facility.
On one hand, trump doing something superficial and ego boosting in general just doesn't raise eyebrows because he does it constantly. On the other hand, because he does it constantly it would be very easy for the admin to slip stuff passed notice because it's now easy to dismiss "trump just being trump."
Short read and a pretty compelling idea. Hard to feel like any of this investment is worth while. Though it does worry me to see war mongers actively making preparations to be able to conduct even more aggressive conflicts.
A detail that the author doesn't cite, or if they do it's buried in the sources but not referenced: That any of this has anything at all to do with AI. Or autonomous decision making. Or anything like that. Data center? Sure. Quite possible. But AI? I mean, I won't categorically say no, but I see no indication of this being built with AI in mind.
I'm also unconvinced about the insinuation that the Jerusalem data center is doing any kind of AI decision making or targeting in Gaza. For all I know, the data center is just a normal government data center. Holding your tax records, allowing you to file for unemployment benefits, banale things like that. The intelligence branches are involved? Ok, sure, they probably need somewhere to store their satellite imagery.
Not that any of this dimishes the fucked-up-ness of the project by much, even if I feel AI is being invoked as the boogeyman here. Even if Trump just centralized tax records in the White House, that's already a bad sign for the US, but "the military is very much involved" just makes this even worse. I'm thinking this could be the DOGE data grab, except this time under a mantle of a bit more legitimacy, and even less actual accountability, and bigger.
Without a doubt this is well into educated speculation territory. That said, I think this administration is weirdly enthusiastic about the current AI hype. So to think trump's bought full force into "the power of AI!" wouldn't be a surprising outcome here. I think the authors speculation about AI is really tied to the donor company's and their recent push for an AI arms race. Wouldn't be surprising if they're all collaborating with the admin to push full force into the next form of advanced weapons grade AI. Which I'm sure several other countries are quietly doing as well. Hard to say
This reads like a conspiracy theory to me.
It makes sense for the government to build very secure data centers. It doesn't make sense to build it under the White House rather than, say, under Cheyenne mountain. The US is a much larger country than Israel and there are more places to put things.
Particularly since Washington DC is built on a swamp. Going deep underground is very difficult.
And I expect Trump wants his ballroom finished before his term is up?
Agreed, though I'm not sure we can assume that Donald has a lick of sense, which means he's capable of even the most harebrained schemes.
Of course, "Donald is a fucking idiot" isn't the most compelling justification for a conspiracy. You could also use the same logic to explain him starting a war in South America, or annexing a peaceful and quiet foreign country, or renaming longstanding bodies of water for completely random reasons.
But there is one great reason that they can't put a datacenter in Cheyenne Mountain Complex: the Stargate already consumes a lot of energy and would put the data at risk of extraterrestrial exfiltration.
Putting it under the White House makes a ton of sense if you want it to be a secret project controlled exclusively by the president, with no oversight from Congress or involvement of military officials who have quaint ideas like loyalty to the constitution.
And, as mentioned briefly in the article, its development and installation closest to the seat of government is specifically so that if the US was under attack, if DC was taken siege, or a civil war is being undertaken, you would have direct access to an airgapped, state of the art, AI control center, with the ability to make decisions autonomously, quickly, and efficiently for the protection of the country (or, the current government - two different things!) and the seat of power. In the case of war, and your capital is under risk of attack, do you want to be separated from your intelligence and AI capabilities - especially if your enemy has one?
I am surprised the article didn't quite bring it up - but during WW2 they built the bunkers, called the Presidential Emergency Operations Center, secretly, using private funding (to skirt budgetary knowledge) underneath the east wing, in case of an attack on the US.
This is quite literally a retrofit job, they are modernizing, enhancing, and extending the Presidential Emergency Operations Center. it's already there, they are just making it vastly more future-forward. When they started destroying the East Wing, this is precisely what I thought was the real reasoning, and I am more than happy to have some form of unauthorized validaiton of that.
This additionally makes the case that he abruptly stood up and stared out the meeting with his oil execs this week and remarked how beautiful all the work has been on the property - even though they haven't made any (visible) changes since the destruction of the east wing last month, make a lot of sense, even in his drug and dementia-riddled mind.
Edit: links and words.
Bunker upgrades are what occurred to me, as well. We don't know what's going to happen after the next election, but considering what happened last time I'd be surprised if he didn't decide to dig in and refuse to leave.
The quality of our future depends heavily on the course of nature in the next 3 years.
Physical proximity to a data center is basically irrelevant. The whole point of data centers is that they're places that information is processed. Information is very easy to move long distances. There's no reason why a data center in VA or Maryland wouldnt be able to be every bit as connected to the president as one 150 feet underneath him.
It's a really nonsensical place to build one.
Upgrading and enhancing a command bunker? Sure. Building a massive data center? Pretty silly.
Sure, but let's just say I would have trusted Roosevelt and Truman with a secret underground bunker a lot more than I think we should trust Trump.
Hey, this looks familiar! š
I debated whether I should make a full post about this, when I came across it last month. Ultimately decided not to because it appears so... nutty. But it's really compelling, and supported by a ton of actual evidence. At this point I'd say I'm won over. Not sure she's 100% right but there's certainly enough here to cast suspicion on the official narrative.
TBH though I'm just burned out on conspiracy theories since, I guess, when QAnon went mainstream and turned everybody's parents into MAGA brainrot and the evil elites decided to start doing their most evil stuff right in the open because, it turns out, nobody really cares enough to stop them anyway. Actually diving into a grounded, receipts-carrying new theory feels almost quaint these days. It reminds me of when I got into Loose Change and the 9/11 truth stuff 20 years ago. I'm still embarrassed about that, so I guess I don't want to be too quick to sign up for another of its ilk.
I'd feel a lot better if a credible news org picked up the story and did some proper journalistic investigation into this. I tried to tip off one of them, actually, but they never wrote me back.
That Loose Change stuff duped us all. It was fresh, interesting counter culture takes that didn't resemble the evening news. Don't be too hard on yourself.
outside of the damage a lot of that has lead to, Loose Change and the other big videos were pretty fun to watch and bullshit about.
ā¦ but itās like how some people can do a little coke and it doesnāt consume their life. :)
"Your party documentary is showing"
*Sniff sniff
Hahaha
i didnāt make that, but the reflection is really well done.
.... and the 9/11 truth stuff is more and more believable everyday and likely a rather common belief now among the people.
Even 20 years Trevor Moore (RIP) was playing on both the inherit understanding and acceptance of the event in a conspiratorial view, and the fact you absolutely couldn't talk about that publicly without being ostracized. Video - always a rewatch when it comes up.
I am one of those that believes that humans inherently need a few good conspiracy theories in their repertoire to have a more complete and grounded understanding of the world, it is a healthy coping method that teaches one to better question the world and learn more, better to be a skeptic than not. If you don't, you end up being enraptured by much worse conspiracies later as your default becomes to believe anything and take everything overly seriously. You need to have a little conspiracy, as a treat.
lol, I can see that. Maybe I'm too trusting of institutional media here in Canada, but I believe that with a big and broad enough information diet, the facts (as seen by journalists) are crazy enough not to need conspiracies.
Personally, I think that those who become enraptured by conspiracies are simply people who have too naive a view of what truth is and in feeling betrayed by mainstream institutions, blindly land on the doorstep of subversive mainstream institutions.
That all said, if I had to choose a conspiracy to hitch my ride to it'd be that climate change is a hoax and that we can just keep-on keeping-on. It's bullshit, but my wishful thinking may help with the terror of this bus we're all in careening off a cliff in the next decades.
Ok, too dark.
The important part is that they used private donations to prevent oversight so who knows what they are really doing in the foundation.
The us government is incredibly broken from the perspective of people who want a representative democracy. The president does something unconstitutional and damaging to the country, the citizens, and the world almost every day and somehow hasnāt been removed from office and jailed.
Iām sure the billionaire donors are pleased though.
Looks like this is maybe confirmed? Or at least now being speculatively reported on by CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/19/politics/east-wing-secret-bunker-construction-details
And
This is what Iāve been waiting for! Hereās hoping now that CNN is on the beat, other outlets will pick it up too. I know true Top Secret details arenāt going to leak but itās gratifying that sources exist who are willing to confirm the basics.
Scary if true. The good thing though, is that he's old and unhealthy and has dementia, and that mega projects like this take a few years to build right? At the current recruitment rates they won't be able to have enough ice police to defend against a sustained protest, and the regular police, military and national guards are unlikely to live round against American citizens. Let's see if the mid terms are called off first before being too worried about this.
Honestly if it wasn't this admin, having sovereign cloud that's crazy safe isn't by itself a bad idea. Nimbus is only evil because it's being used for genocide, not for existing
What an interesting read. At this point I don't know about anyone else but I hope for the best but preparing for the unimaginable.
I love this. It'd be quite smart to do this under the guise of the President's giant ego. Lol