16 votes

What do you think about reddits thebanout? Are you supporting it or not, and why?

I personally think that if it doesn't get reigned in, it will destroy a LOT about reddit.

35 comments

  1. [3]
    dubteedub
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    It's a pretty transparent joke that a lot of people believe is real. Edit: subs closed now

    It's a pretty transparent joke that a lot of people believe is real.

    Edit: subs closed now

    18 votes
    1. BuckeyeSundae
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      The tell for me, outside of automod and n8theg8 (who for his part seems to trigger t_d types everywhere), was including r/drama and r/lol as “hate subs.” That said, if I didn’t have those clues,...

      The tell for me, outside of automod and n8theg8 (who for his part seems to trigger t_d types everywhere), was including r/drama and r/lol as “hate subs.”

      That said, if I didn’t have those clues, the shittiness of people on Reddit generally would’ve potentially had me seeing it as a pointless protest, like so many others on Reddit.

      4 votes
    2. Kijafa
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      I talked to n8 yesterday on slack and up until then I didn't realize it was a joke either.

      I talked to n8 yesterday on slack and up until then I didn't realize it was a joke either.

      4 votes
  2. [23]
    Tenar
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    I don't reddit anymore, could you (or someone else) provide a bit more context?

    I don't reddit anymore, could you (or someone else) provide a bit more context?

    16 votes
    1. [17]
      starchturrets
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      Racist subs made racist remarks against reddit admin's wife Serena Willams. Did not end well for the subs.

      Racist subs made racist remarks against reddit admin's wife Serena Willams. Did not end well for the subs.

      8 votes
      1. [15]
        Pilgrim
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        Could we get a little more detail? Is this related to the /r/greatawakening ban?

        Could we get a little more detail? Is this related to the /r/greatawakening ban?

        7 votes
        1. [13]
          starchturrets
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          It is, but my comment was mistaken. Apparently, thebanout refers to a subreddit (r/thebanout2018) trying to get what it views as hate subs banned. A bit like r/againsthatesubreddits, which...

          It is, but my comment was mistaken. Apparently, thebanout refers to a subreddit (r/thebanout2018) trying to get what it views as hate subs banned.

          A bit like r/againsthatesubreddits, which @dubteedub mods, but way more extreme, judging by how many comments they remove.

          4 votes
          1. [6]
            Hypersapien
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            What does it view as "hate subs" and is it any different from what everyone else views as hate subs?

            What does it view as "hate subs" and is it any different from what everyone else views as hate subs?

            4 votes
            1. [5]
              starchturrets
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              It has come to my attention that dubteedub also mods that sub and regards it as a "transparent joke." So I guess it's just a troll version of r/againsthatesubreddits, using the same criteria?

              It has come to my attention that dubteedub also mods that sub and regards it as a "transparent joke."

              So I guess it's just a troll version of r/againsthatesubreddits, using the same criteria?

              2 votes
              1. [3]
                dubteedub
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                Correct, but don't tell reddit

                Correct, but don't tell reddit

                6 votes
                1. [2]
                  MotherIrony
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                  I personally appreciated Banoween

                  I personally appreciated Banoween

                  5 votes
                  1. dubteedub
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                    People are calling greatawakening's ban Quistallnacht which I think is pretty solid

                    People are calling greatawakening's ban Quistallnacht which I think is pretty solid

                    3 votes
              2. clerical_terrors
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                It's basically a rif on /r/blackout2015, probably because that sub ended up being taken over by Meta-Reddit conspiracy nuts.

                It's basically a rif on /r/blackout2015, probably because that sub ended up being taken over by Meta-Reddit conspiracy nuts.

                4 votes
          2. BuckeyeSundae
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            He also mods the rthebanout2018 sub last I checked.

            He also mods the rthebanout2018 sub last I checked.

            3 votes
          3. [5]
            frickindeal
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            They apparently auto-mod remove any comment that isn't a specific phrase. I don't get that. Are they not encouraging discussion concerning how they might go about being effective in getting those...

            They apparently auto-mod remove any comment that isn't a specific phrase. I don't get that. Are they not encouraging discussion concerning how they might go about being effective in getting those subs banned? Or is that discussion elsewhere? I'm interested more in the social dynamic that exists on reddit from a scientific point-of-view, and would have liked to see those discussions.

            But, they're apparently effecting change, so despite their methods, it somehow appears to be working to an extent.

            2 votes
            1. [4]
              dubteedub
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              It's a joke sub claiming responsibility for all the subs banned this week retroactively and claiming they have the admins ear and threatening a load of other subs It's pretty funny since all the...

              It's a joke sub claiming responsibility for all the subs banned this week retroactively and claiming they have the admins ear and threatening a load of other subs

              It's pretty funny since all the hate subs are freaking out that they are on "the list"

              12 votes
              1. frickindeal
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                Oh wow, I think that qualifies as my first "whoosh" on Tildes. That is pretty funny, now that I see what they're doing. It's actually pretty damn creative.

                Oh wow, I think that qualifies as my first "whoosh" on Tildes.

                That is pretty funny, now that I see what they're doing. It's actually pretty damn creative.

                4 votes
              2. Petril
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                I agree that it is transparently a joke!! And a hilarious one, at that! Nice work.

                I agree that it is transparently a joke!! And a hilarious one, at that! Nice work.

                3 votes
              3. CALICO
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                I was certainly scratching my head when I found r/thebanout2018 on r/DrainTheSwamp, when a ton of people were melting down about it.

                I was certainly scratching my head when I found r/thebanout2018 on r/DrainTheSwamp, when a ton of people were melting down about it.

                3 votes
        2. PatrickRes
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          I actually think @starchturrets is getting one piece of Reddit drama confused for another. I actually got about halfway through typing a response in this thread talking about the r/greatawakening...

          I actually think @starchturrets is getting one piece of Reddit drama confused for another. I actually got about halfway through typing a response in this thread talking about the r/greatawakening whatnot before I realized it was the wrong subject.

          I'm pretty sure what @Akronymus is referring to is the movement associated with r/TheBanOut2018.

          3 votes
      2. [2]
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        1. dubteedub
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          He is still Reddit's board and is Reddits Executive Chairman

          He is still Reddit's board and is Reddits Executive Chairman

          5 votes
    2. [4]
      PatrickRes
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      I haven't been following closely, but here goes. Essentially, moderators from several large subreddits and a handful of smaller ones have taken it upon themselves to ban users in bulk based on...

      I haven't been following closely, but here goes.

      Essentially, moderators from several large subreddits and a handful of smaller ones have taken it upon themselves to ban users in bulk based on their participation in "hate speech" subreddits. Their motivation is

      "to force the admins to take action on the hatefilled subreddits that they currently allow to get away with sitewide rule violations"

      To the best of my knowledge, this is against Reddit's site-wide rules, but I'm not too certain about that. Obviously though, it's rubbing people the wrong way for a whole variety of reasons.

      4 votes
      1. dubteedub
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        Yeah, no one has actually bulk banned anyone If it were true you would have seen a bunch of people freaking out from getting banned from r/pics or something

        Yeah, no one has actually bulk banned anyone

        If it were true you would have seen a bunch of people freaking out from getting banned from r/pics or something

        5 votes
      2. [2]
        Wes
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        It's against moddiquette, but not any site-wide rule that I know of.

        It's against moddiquette, but not any site-wide rule that I know of.

        3 votes
        1. PatrickRes
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          Thanks for the info! I had heard something about how this was a rule that the admins made, but that was second hand, and it's clear how they could have been confused!

          Thanks for the info! I had heard something about how this was a rule that the admins made, but that was second hand, and it's clear how they could have been confused!

          1 vote
  3. [3]
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    1. [2]
      dubteedub
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      The actual serious anti hatesub spot is r/againsthatesubreddits

      The actual serious anti hatesub spot is r/againsthatesubreddits

      8 votes
      1. [2]
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        1. dubteedub
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          Yes, it is basically a joke version of AHS that claims to have the admins ear in banning hate subs. We are not actually doing that. A very small number of subreddits had implemented the saferbot...

          /r/TheBanout2018 is a sort of "joke subreddit"

          Yes, it is basically a joke version of AHS that claims to have the admins ear in banning hate subs.

          what about the idea of targeting and preemptively banning users based on their activity in specific subreddits?

          We are not actually doing that.

          Has something like this ever been tossed around as a serious idea, or is it also a joking red flag to get alt-right subs riled up?

          A very small number of subreddits had implemented the saferbot maybe a month or so ago to solely target folks who were active on /r/milliondollarextreme as they were constantly brigading other subs and were some of the most notorious racist users who would run around across Reddit to troll. Now that MDE is banned, there is no active discussion on mass-banning hate users from subs.

          As far as I know, the only bot able to do that is the /u/saferbot which will automatically ban users from the subs it targets for only a single comment / post. That means that it has a lot of false-positives, and would be even more so on some of the broader hate subs like T_D, which would ban every user that went there to troll one time and got banned immediately.

          I do use the Reddit masstagger, available at /r/masstagger, which tracks users who participate in hatesubs and lets you set the limit for the number of comments / posts that it activates a tag. You can also whitelist certain users or select the different subs you want to track. Here is an example of what you see when you click on someone's tag if they participate in a hate sub.

          https://masstagger.com/user/MUSTAKA

          What do you think the admins would do if several large subreddits actually took a preemptive ban into consideration?

          They would probably remove us all as moderators, or at least the ones that pushed for the mass ban.

          There are obviously subreddits that still have no place existing as they do and seeing the amount of participation that they do, which is why I ironically support the idea of exercising early censorship against these groups.

          I fully agree with you and is why I spend much of my time on Reddit at this point on /r/againsthatesubreddits.

          3 votes
  4. clerical_terrors
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    I've looked at it for two seconds and it just seems like a circle-jerky joke. Maybe it's going to get hijacked by people who mean it but IMO the Reddit admins aren't going to listen to them. If...

    I've looked at it for two seconds and it just seems like a circle-jerky joke. Maybe it's going to get hijacked by people who mean it but IMO the Reddit admins aren't going to listen to them. If they were in the business of listening to that kind of talk they would have banned a bunch of subs waaaaaaaaaay back when.

    4 votes
  5. [6]
    nothis
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    I have no idea what "thebanout" is but it sounds like a bunch of assholes who had their feelings hurt because their favorite edgy sub was banned.

    I have no idea what "thebanout" is but it sounds like a bunch of assholes who had their feelings hurt because their favorite edgy sub was banned.

    3 votes
    1. [5]
      Algernon_Asimov
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      Actually, it seems to be the opposite. From what I've seen, it's a group of people who are actively trying to get the Reddit admins to ban subreddits they class as "hate subreddits".

      Actually, it seems to be the opposite. From what I've seen, it's a group of people who are actively trying to get the Reddit admins to ban subreddits they class as "hate subreddits".

      6 votes
      1. [3]
        BuckeyeSundae
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        People might also notice a mod in those top users who shares the same characters as @dubteedub. Not that the users are identical or anything

        People might also notice a mod in those top users who shares the same characters as @dubteedub. Not that the users are identical or anything

        5 votes
      2. Layla
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        many of those subreddits are hate subs, though.

        many of those subreddits are hate subs, though.

        2 votes