39 votes

Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to all users worldwide

14 comments

  1. Eric_the_Cerise
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    This is how cookies were supposed to work in the first place, and I expect it is how most users intuitively assume they work now. The current state started out as a kind of hack-ish serendipity,...

    Total Cookie Protection works by creating a separate “cookie jar” for each website you visit. Instead of allowing trackers to link up your behavior on multiple sites, they just get to see behavior on individual sites.

    This is how cookies were supposed to work in the first place, and I expect it is how most users intuitively assume they work now. The current state started out as a kind of hack-ish serendipity, where Website A stores A-cookies and Website B stores B-cookies ... and at some point, the advertisers of Website A realized there was nothing stopping them from using the cookies stored by Website B, and the whole advertising industry just spiraled into the current situation based on this opportunity.

    16 votes
  2. [2]
    drannex
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    I think it's broken about 0.005% of the websites I've been to, and even then it's only minor. This is far better than when they first started testing, and I think it's a good thing they are...

    I think it's broken about 0.005% of the websites I've been to, and even then it's only minor. This is far better than when they first started testing, and I think it's a good thing they are rolling it out.

    12 votes
    1. JXM
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      I reported a few sites as broken in the first month or so that it rolled out and haven't had any issues since then. And I wholeheartedly agree that this is a good thing for consumers. It should...

      I reported a few sites as broken in the first month or so that it rolled out and haven't had any issues since then. And I wholeheartedly agree that this is a good thing for consumers. It should absolutely be on by default.

      3 votes
  3. monarda
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    Firefox has been my default browser for longer than I can remember. This looks like to be containers but site specific. One thing I would like is the ability to clear all in a container, or in...

    Firefox has been my default browser for longer than I can remember. This looks like to be containers but site specific. One thing I would like is the ability to clear all in a container, or in this case a site. For example Tildes, shopping, my bank, news etc, are all in separate containers. The rest of my browsing is general. I'd like to purge all general, and leave the rest alone since they hold my logins. Maybe this solves that issue. Does anyone know?

    8 votes
  4. [7]
    Pun
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    Fine, fine! I'll switch to Firefox already! But seriously, I keep hearing so many good things about it. I've tried it on occasion, but never stuck with it. It's great a big player is trying to...

    Fine, fine! I'll switch to Firefox already!

    But seriously, I keep hearing so many good things about it. I've tried it on occasion, but never stuck with it. It's great a big player is trying to fight whatever grubby things Google is doing.

    I'm going to miss the tab cycler in Vivaldi, though.

    5 votes
    1. [2]
      Eric_the_Cerise
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      As a bonus, Google is about to roll out a major upgrade that will completely break most (all?) adblockers, and make it difficult or impossible to fix 'em or create new ones (that work).

      As a bonus, Google is about to roll out a major upgrade that will completely break most (all?) adblockers, and make it difficult or impossible to fix 'em or create new ones (that work).

      7 votes
      1. Wes
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        I feel like that's stretching things a bit. Yes, extensions will have to port to the new API, but what is declarativeNetRequest still missing that webRequest could do?

        I feel like that's stretching things a bit. Yes, extensions will have to port to the new API, but what is declarativeNetRequest still missing that webRequest could do?

        3 votes
    2. [4]
      teaearlgraycold
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      I don’t think Firefox counts as a big player

      I don’t think Firefox counts as a big player

      4 votes
      1. [3]
        whbboyd
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        In terms of engine hegemony, which is probably more important to controlling Google's oppressive stranglehold on the web than individual browsers, among desktop browsers, Webkit (Safari) and Gecko...

        In terms of engine hegemony, which is probably more important to controlling Google's oppressive stranglehold on the web than individual browsers, among desktop browsers, Webkit (Safari) and Gecko (Firefox) both have about 10%, and Blink (essentially every other browser, particularly Chrome) has the remaining 80%. The only big player is Google.

        The situation is quite possibly worse than with IE, because Google is substantially less incompetent than 2000s Microsoft.

        4 votes
        1. [2]
          KapteinB
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          Can you elaborate? We're not seeing the stagnation or security issues we had back in the age of IE6 dominance.

          The situation is quite possibly worse than with IE, because Google is substantially less incompetent than 2000s Microsoft.

          Can you elaborate? We're not seeing the stagnation or security issues we had back in the age of IE6 dominance.

          2 votes
          1. petrichor
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            If Google wants to implement x terrible idea, they have both the competence and marketshare to do it. Chrome being a pretty good web browser, actually, along with Android's global dominance, means...

            If Google wants to implement x terrible idea, they have both the competence and marketshare to do it.

            Chrome being a pretty good web browser, actually, along with Android's global dominance, means that it's unlikely that its marketshare will ever decrease. There will be no "Internet Explorer is no longer supported; Please switch to a modern browser" popups on websites, no matter how invasive Chrome may or may not become.

            1 vote
  5. [3]
    BlindCarpenter
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    so is there any reason to keep containers enabled now?

    so is there any reason to keep containers enabled now?

    2 votes
    1. [2]
      Gecko
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      Multi-Account Containers cover a different use-case. Total Cookie Protection won't let you stay logged in with multiple accounts on the same webpage on different tabs for example. ^^

      Multi-Account Containers cover a different use-case. Total Cookie Protection won't let you stay logged in with multiple accounts on the same webpage on different tabs for example. ^^

      8 votes
      1. BlindCarpenter
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        ah ok I see, but in terms of cookie protection, there wouldn't really be much of a difference right? I was just using multi-account containers to keep my email segregated from the rest of the web

        ah ok I see, but in terms of cookie protection, there wouldn't really be much of a difference right? I was just using multi-account containers to keep my email segregated from the rest of the web

        2 votes