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Scientologists ask US Federal government to restrict right to repair

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  1. [11]
    Grimmcartel
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    I had a 100 in 1 electronic project as a kid that had a lie detector project as part of its function. Once assembled, the subject would hold a wire between their thumb and forefinger in each hand...

    I had a 100 in 1 electronic project as a kid that had a lie detector project as part of its function. Once assembled, the subject would hold a wire between their thumb and forefinger in each hand and respond to questions. The circuit measured the resistance encountered through the body and the results could be read on a vu meter style readout on the front of the kit. The idea being that if you lie, your body sweats just a little, dropping the resistance and spiking the meter. The meter will also spike if you squeeze the wires.

    This is exactly what an e-meter does. Imagine my surprise when confronted with one of those things when my parents decided that maybe Scientology would fix whatever was wrong with me in my teens. When they asked me to "squeeze the cans" to help calibrate the machine I actually laughed.

    We spent around a year in the church before I got us banned as SPs. One of my fondest memories. I still have the letter framed.

    52 votes
    1. [2]
      Adys
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      Desperate parents who don’t talk enough to their kid are the root of many evils. Sorry if I’m assuming too much — I got a similar treatment of “something must be wrong with him” because school was...

      when my parents decided that maybe Scientology would fix whatever was wrong with me in my teens

      Desperate parents who don’t talk enough to their kid are the root of many evils. Sorry if I’m assuming too much — I got a similar treatment of “something must be wrong with him” because school was a disaster.

      Turns out I am just not a morning person. At least they didn’t put me in a cult and merely wasted money on psychologists with useless opinions.

      26 votes
      1. Bohmbot
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        Therapist here. Would love to hear more about the psychologists with useless opinions! It's not uncommon for parents to bring a child into my office for a lack of motivation around school. I often...

        Therapist here. Would love to hear more about the psychologists with useless opinions! It's not uncommon for parents to bring a child into my office for a lack of motivation around school. I often wonder if a lot of time and money could be saved if the parents talked and listened to their child with the intent to understand.

        7 votes
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      1. Grimmcartel
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        Oh, just the standard juvenile delinquent stuff really. Setting off homemade fireworks, some light shoplifting and teaching some of the kids I was there with how to be better criminals. I lost a...

        Oh, just the standard juvenile delinquent stuff really. Setting off homemade fireworks, some light shoplifting and teaching some of the kids I was there with how to be better criminals. I lost a summer vacation because of those idiots So i had no fucks left to give. I called out everyone that tried to give me a reading by messing with the e-meter too. Super fun to watch the brows furrow when you answer "blue" to "what color is the sky", and the machine spikes.

        6 votes
    3. [2]
      unkz
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      For the curious, an SP is a “suppressive person”.

      For the curious, an SP is a “suppressive person”.

      The church's official glossary defines a suppressive person as being:

      a person who possesses a distinct set of characteristics and mental attitudes that cause him to suppress other people in his vicinity. This is the person whose behavior is calculated to be disastrous. Also called antisocial personality.

      8 votes
      1. Grimmcartel
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        In my case it was because I never fell for the bullshit and questioned them at every turn. Also, I was a bit salty at having to spend my summer in their school, as they ran on trimesters for some...

        In my case it was because I never fell for the bullshit and questioned them at every turn. Also, I was a bit salty at having to spend my summer in their school, as they ran on trimesters for some reason.

        3 votes
    4. [5]
      Toric
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      Im pretty sure I had the exact same kit growing up. Had little spring terminals to connect components up together, and the front panel had a knob, a momentary switch, a vu meter, and 6? leds? I...

      I had a 100 in 1 electronic project as a kid that had a lie detector project as part of its function. Once assembled, the subject would hold a wire between their thumb and forefinger in each hand and respond to questions.

      Im pretty sure I had the exact same kit growing up. Had little spring terminals to connect components up together, and the front panel had a knob, a momentary switch, a vu meter, and 6? leds? I remember that kit really fondly.

      7 votes
      1. Grrbrr
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        I still have this thing. https://i.imgur.com/vCKn7IG.jpg One of the few things i just had to keep.

        I still have this thing. https://i.imgur.com/vCKn7IG.jpg

        One of the few things i just had to keep.

        6 votes
      2. [3]
        Grimmcartel
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        Sounds very close to the one I had, though if I remember correctly it had a power/volume knob, then the meter, then a tuning knob (used in the project for sensitivity), one character led digit...

        Sounds very close to the one I had, though if I remember correctly it had a power/volume knob, then the meter, then a tuning knob (used in the project for sensitivity), one character led digit display, spring switch, CDS cell, a/b switch, 6 standalone LEDs and antenna connectors. I spent a LOT of time with that thing...

        4 votes
        1. [2]
          Toric
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          Thats the one! Its been so long since I had acess to it, I forgot about some of the other stuff. I found a scanned pdf of the manual online once, I should have it kicking around somwhere on my...

          Thats the one! Its been so long since I had acess to it, I forgot about some of the other stuff. I found a scanned pdf of the manual online once, I should have it kicking around somwhere on my filesystem if you want.

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          1. Grimmcartel
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            That's awesome. I was actually tempted a little last night. I went searching for the kit after I posted, and found it was actually the 200, not 100 in 1 that I had, and someone has one for sale on...

            That's awesome. I was actually tempted a little last night. I went searching for the kit after I posted, and found it was actually the 200, not 100 in 1 that I had, and someone has one for sale on eBay for a hundred bucks. Not sure if the nostalgia is worth it just yet lol

  2. Amun
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    Jason Koebler Link to archived version

    Jason Koebler


    A group representing L. Ron Hubbard asked the Copyright Office to alter a repair exemption that makes it legal to hack Scientology's E-Meter—and lots of other electronics, too. According to a letter reviewed by 404 Media.

    The letter doesn’t refer to any single device, but experts say the petition covers Scientology’s “E-Meter,” a “religious artifact” and electronic that is core to Scientology. The Church of Scientology uses an “electropsychometer” or “E-Meter” to “measure the spiritual state or change of state of a person” and is used in the course of “auditing,” which in the religion is the process in which a pathway to higher spiritual awareness is created.

    The Church of Scientology says only specific Scientologists should use the E-Meter, which can cost thousands of dollars (though there are less expensive ones on eBay).

    Special exemptions to copyright law make it legal for farmers to hack past John Deere’s DRM to fix their tractors, consumers to use software tools to help them repair certain parts of game consoles, or use third-party software to circumvent repair locks on printers, air conditioners, laptops, etc.

    The Church of Scientology notes “in itself, the E-Meter does nothing … The E-Meter is not intended or effective for the diagnosis, treatment or prevention of any disease.”

    The U.S. Copyright Office will review Author Services’ petition and others over the following months and will determine whether it will remain legal to hack an E-Meter to fix it among other perhaps more pressing legal conundrums.

    Link to archived version

    16 votes
  3. [2]
    Eric_the_Cerise
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    Honestly a little bit surprised to be reminded that this still exists. SC hasn't been in the news (that I've noticed, at least) long enough that I kinda subconsciously thought it had died out....

    Honestly a little bit surprised to be reminded that this still exists. SC hasn't been in the news (that I've noticed, at least) long enough that I kinda subconsciously thought it had died out.

    Edit: Still "early days" but so far, I am really loving 404Media.

    For anyone unaware, 4 of the top staffers at Vice's Motherboard went off on their own and started this media company, just a couple weeks ago.

    10 votes
    1. UP8
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      … this guy writes about it every single day https://tonyortega.substack.com/ i think the thing we are all waiting for is for David Miscavige to be finally served process and brought in to testify...

      … this guy writes about it every single day

      https://tonyortega.substack.com/

      i think the thing we are all waiting for is for David Miscavige to be finally served process and brought in to testify at a lawsuit.

      7 votes