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Mark Zuckerberg defends Meta's latest pivot in three-hour Joe Rogan interview

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  1. JXM
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    The title of The Verge’s article is a bit more direct and blunt: Mark Zuckerberg lies about content moderation to Joe Rogan’s face

    The title of The Verge’s article is a bit more direct and blunt:

    Mark Zuckerberg lies about content moderation to Joe Rogan’s face

    35 votes
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    DefinitelyNotAFae
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    In my experience you could say all that stuff on Facebook anyway, I almost never had anything successfully removed when I reported it. If it wasn't an explicit slur it didn't matter how many times...

    In my experience you could say all that stuff on Facebook anyway, I almost never had anything successfully removed when I reported it. If it wasn't an explicit slur it didn't matter how many times I had it reviewed.

    10 votes
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      TheD00d
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      Yeah, not sure what kind of content moderation was actually occurring... This is hyper specific and anecdotal but I happen to be in a group for a game about tabletop miniatures that revolves...

      Yeah, not sure what kind of content moderation was actually occurring...

      This is hyper specific and anecdotal but I happen to be in a group for a game about tabletop miniatures that revolves around vikings. It's pretty fun and mostly harmless (a lot of bad viking jokes), dad humor, miniatures being painted and some history. However one post happened to be random selfie from a guy with a bunch of Nazi tattoos that wasn't even related to the game or anything. Just out of the blue.

      So naturally I reported it, since it was pretty clearly in violation of the groups rules and also Facebooks stance on hate symbols and speech. It got "reviewed" by eh Facebook content moderation team and found nothing to be wrong with the post. Which I found pretty alarming. But I guess since it was just a guy and his tats, I guess it was okay - who knows, maybe I'm overreacting. It was only when I messaged the groups mods that they took the post down.

      So yeah, not really sure what kind of censorship or moderation they were doing.

      Honestly - this whole thing seems like a giant PR stunt to get on the good side of Donny-boy before he gets into office and starts swinging hammers.

      8 votes
      1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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        Yeah reporting it became mostly my way of getting it hidden for a few minutes. I'm talking awful stuff about trans people for example. It's clearly automated as quickly as most reports came back...

        Yeah reporting it became mostly my way of getting it hidden for a few minutes. I'm talking awful stuff about trans people for example.

        It's clearly automated as quickly as most reports came back and in such a way that almost anything is allowed.

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  3. Grumble4681
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    Moves like this only further support what others already suspected was behind the news orgs suddenly deciding that editors publishing endorsements for Presidential candidates was no longer going...

    Moves like this only further support what others already suspected was behind the news orgs suddenly deciding that editors publishing endorsements for Presidential candidates was no longer going to happen and any other big about-faces these businesses and people have been making. These people are either running scared of the new administration, or are seeing a gigantic opportunity to capitalize off the new administration, or probably even a bit of both. The people on an individual, personal level, probably were running scared in fear of retaliation, but they're also cold-hearted businesspersons and on that level they decide the solution to being scared is to run into the cover of Trump's shit-covered coattails.

    9 votes
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    Bullmaestro
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    This is a very convoluted 3 hour way for Zuck to say he wants to be on the winning side, especially when that side now controls the judicidary, controls the executive, controls both legislative...

    This is a very convoluted 3 hour way for Zuck to say he wants to be on the winning side, especially when that side now controls the judicidary, controls the executive, controls both legislative houses, basically got away with an attempted insurrection of Congress four years ago and has openly pledged to wage a war upon DEI and LGBTQ rights.

    I wonder how long it'll be until Spez follows suit with Reddit.

    I do not have kind words for Reddit's Tintin-looking CEO. He is probably an even bigger snake than Mark Zuckerberg, and only purges content when it starts to look really bad to the company's shareholders. See for example: jailbait, creepshots, fatpeoplehate, the_donald, watchpeopledie, theredpill and the tonnes of racial hate and incel subreddits that once existed. Yes, some of these bans were during interim years where Spez wasn't involved, but the Jailbait sub existed, and was nominated "subreddit of the year" one year before he initially left Reddit.

    6 votes
    1. slashtab
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      Well, after the election result was declared those voices have embolden on all of the subreddit. They're out of woodworks and the confidence in being racist and calling other territory American is...

      Well, after the election result was declared those voices have embolden on all of the subreddit. They're out of woodworks and the confidence in being racist and calling other territory American is troubling. They get downvoted but also awarded.

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    slashtab
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    I'm not sure if I should add politics tag, there are some part which might be triggering for folks who have not subscribed to politics topic. I leave it on mods to decide.

    I'm not sure if I should add politics tag, there are some part which might be triggering for folks who have not subscribed to politics topic.

    I leave it on mods to decide.

    4 votes
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      BeanBurrito
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      Let people who filter on "politics" see it until the mods do something?

      Let people who filter on "politics" see it until the mods do something?

      1. slashtab
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        See I'm not an expert on this and this topic is more about where social media will head under GOP regime for next decade maybe. This is why I left a comment for better people to decide on this....

        See I'm not an expert on this and this topic is more about where social media will head under GOP regime for next decade maybe.

        This is why I left a comment for better people to decide on this.

        This was/is not in bad faith, I was/am just unsure about this.

        edit: tag is already edited and I think they have concluded the same.

        1 vote