Here's a screenshot of what it looks like for me, with SponsorBlock. The time text seems difficult to read, and the play button looks awkward in my opinion. It's got two rounded edges and one...
Here's a screenshot of what it looks like for me, with SponsorBlock. The time text seems difficult to read, and the play button looks awkward in my opinion. It's got two rounded edges and one sharp edge.
I blame Netflix for pioneering the "0.5pixels is enough for a uniform contrast outline" fad, which everyone else copies. Give me a thick black outline any day please. I attempted to send Netflix...
I blame Netflix for pioneering the "0.5pixels is enough for a uniform contrast outline" fad, which everyone else copies. Give me a thick black outline any day please. I attempted to send Netflix feedback on the accessibility issues caused by their uniform subtitle style, but was ignored. I guess only a tiny amount of users would change their subtitle style in the first place.
The old youtube player, which I still see for now, uses a semitransparent gradient, which will also do the job just fine. I guess the geniuses at Youtube removed the gradient and didn't think about making changes to compensate for low contrast between the time text and bright frames?
Ive had terrible buffering problems with Youtube on my PC for months even though I pay for premium. Now it loads 4k and has no issues keeping up the playback. Credit where it’s due they really...
Ive had terrible buffering problems with Youtube on my PC for months even though I pay for premium. Now it loads 4k and has no issues keeping up the playback. Credit where it’s due they really improved the service for me for a change
I believe this was just a UI change, nothing technical like a codec update, though a lot of videos are using AV1 and VP9 now. Not sure why this would suddenly make your videos work properly, I...
I believe this was just a UI change, nothing technical like a codec update, though a lot of videos are using AV1 and VP9 now. Not sure why this would suddenly make your videos work properly, I wonder if your browser wasn't properly configured to use the right codec. I've had issues like that before with YouTube where my Internet is fine but because of a configuration error somewhere, videos wouldn't load properly.
Youtube was fully down for a while on wednesday, and I read something about newer and exciting anti-download protections, so there just might have been a big backend upgrade too.
Youtube was fully down for a while on wednesday, and I read something about newer and exciting anti-download protections, so there just might have been a big backend upgrade too.
They've been rolling out the new Proof of Origin Token requirement for a while, now, and it appears to be applying to more videos by default. It's been a pain because I've used TubeSync—which uses...
I read something about newer and exciting anti-download protections
They've been rolling out the new Proof of Origin Token requirement for a while, now, and it appears to be applying to more videos by default.
It's been a pain because I've used TubeSync—which uses yt-dlp underneath—to automatically download videos from certain channels to my Plex library (so my son can still watch some of the quality content without having the algorithm's constant "Here's somethingelseyou'll like!" enticement) because YouTube was essentially banned from our home several years ago, and it hasn't been able to properly download anything for several weeks.
I spent some time trying to figure it out, but I think part of the problem is the yt-dlp version included in the Docker image needs to be updated but attempting to update the package from within the image somehow breaks the TubeSync processes from starting up correctly. I just need to get around to spending more time trying to figure it out.
Depends on who you ask, right? You're downloading it in the process of watching it in the first place, but youtube keeps doing their hardest to break yt-dlp and equivalent, thereby breaking a lot...
Depends on who you ask, right? You're downloading it in the process of watching it in the first place, but youtube keeps doing their hardest to break yt-dlp and equivalent, thereby breaking a lot of things that rely on youtube video "integration". I'm sure they don't care so much about the copying aspect of it rather than their primary goal of one day being able to force users to watch fifteen ads before every five minute video.
Always so annoying. The amazing part is that when YouTube debuts their new latest anti download technology, the absolute heroes over at youtube-dl and yt-dlp usually take maybe an hour or two to...
Always so annoying. The amazing part is that when YouTube debuts their new latest anti download technology, the absolute heroes over at youtube-dl and yt-dlp usually take maybe an hour or two to figure out how to defeat it and upload a patch to resolve it.
I've gotta wonder why Google even bothers to spend the no doubt gargantuanly expensive engineer time to try to stop downloading. It's clearly a battle they can't win and it just ends up wasting a lot of people's time.
I assume that's the entire point? Sure server-side ad-injection is great for Google's bottom line, and that affects yt-dlp and Invidious, but anything exclusively "We'll use this to slow down...
it just ends up wasting a lot of people's time.
I assume that's the entire point? Sure server-side ad-injection is great for Google's bottom line, and that affects yt-dlp and Invidious, but anything exclusively "We'll use this to slow down piracy"? That feels designed to cause juuust enough pain that normal people will just throw up their hands and watch the damn ads.
That pain makes normal people give up and watch the ads, bumping ad revenue growth. But it's also just possible enough to work around that even the geeks will keep using YouTube, letting Google keep their network effect. Any easier and they lose ad revenue. Any harder and Peertube / Odysee start to attract the geeks - that is, the people most likely to be willing and able to submit PRs for UI / UX, or to cross-upload their videos out of spite.
IMO, pissing you off is Google's explicit goal here.
Maybe, but I think that may be both overestimating googles technical competence and long term planning skills. I don't really think that if Google had some foolproof way to stop people from being...
Maybe, but I think that may be both overestimating googles technical competence and long term planning skills.
I don't really think that if Google had some foolproof way to stop people from being able to download their content without inconveniencing their legitimate users, they'd hesitate in deploying it.
I just think it's a very difficult, if not impossible problem to permanently solve, but they spend lots of engineering time trying to anyway.
Well they certainly fixed something for me in the encoding or backend or something. I’ve spent so much time this year trying to figure out why videos load on my mac and TV but my beefy PC that is...
Well they certainly fixed something for me in the encoding or backend or something. I’ve spent so much time this year trying to figure out why videos load on my mac and TV but my beefy PC that is hardwired just wasn’t having it. Ive scoured the obscure reddit threads, tinkered with my ethernet settings, the codecs and the about:page. The update that brought the new UI fixed the issues I was having. So hooray!
Between this, which is just following Apple's liquid glass suit (I want to make an emperor's new clothes joke here and all the other emperors jumping on that guy's bandwagon), the terrible phone...
Between this, which is just following Apple's liquid glass suit (I want to make an emperor's new clothes joke here and all the other emperors jumping on that guy's bandwagon), the terrible phone redesign (which removed the ability to swipe to reject a call) and clock app redesign (which also removed the swipe to snooze and had the text not even fitting within the same line in some sections) they had done a while back, which they have fixed to some extent, I seriously doubt the capability of these UI/UX designers. It's user interface design and user experience, not just designing something that looks cool that messes with usability that's been working. Already. For ages. Not that tech companies calling themselves user-centric has ever meant user-friendly. But what is this level of competence?
I seriously feel that it's a case of "if we're not changing, we're not keeping up and keeping it interesting." I'm guessing there's studies performed that if a service keeps everything the same,...
I seriously feel that it's a case of "if we're not changing, we're not keeping up and keeping it interesting." I'm guessing there's studies performed that if a service keeps everything the same, UI wise, while others are changing things around, the users see that unchanging service as stagnating.
I would love to believe that they make research-backed decisions but I'm not entirely convinced that it doesn't have to do with some employees justifying their roles within the company.
I would love to believe that they make research-backed decisions but I'm not entirely convinced that it doesn't have to do with some employees justifying their roles within the company.
That's the business idea of continuous improvement. Everything can be changed or improved at any point in time and we should continuously look for opportunities to do so. It's part of my job...
That's the business idea of continuous improvement. Everything can be changed or improved at any point in time and we should continuously look for opportunities to do so.
It's part of my job description, continuous improvement, and while it has its merits, you mostly see wasteful efforts towards something that needs no change.
This one annoys me the most. They truly have made a perfectly fine application worse in every way possible. I could also swear that alarms previously didn't have a save button when making changes....
clock app redesign (which also removed the swipe to snooze and had the text not even fitting within the same line in some sections)
This one annoys me the most. They truly have made a perfectly fine application worse in every way possible.
I could also swear that alarms previously didn't have a save button when making changes. Which tripped me up when I thought I had changed the alarm sounds recently.
It did auto-save previously. They've added additional clicks. I'm also pretty sure the edit alarm used to expand below instead of being in a new pop-up screen. And inexplicably, the font used for...
It did auto-save previously. They've added additional clicks. I'm also pretty sure the edit alarm used to expand below instead of being in a new pop-up screen. And inexplicably, the font used for time in the edit alarm section is different from the font used on the list of alarms screen.
If anyone using a Mac doesn't like the new controls (or any of the other weird stuff YouTube does with their players, I highly recommend something like Stop the Madness or Vinegar, both of which...
If anyone using a Mac doesn't like the new controls (or any of the other weird stuff YouTube does with their players, I highly recommend something like Stop the Madness or Vinegar, both of which replace the YouTube player with the default OS controls.
The like/dislike buttons in fullscreen make sense, as does the comments panel. It looks sleeker, and I'm seeing a little benefit to my CPU on 4k vids as well, which is welcome. I can't speak to...
The like/dislike buttons in fullscreen make sense, as does the comments panel. It looks sleeker, and I'm seeing a little benefit to my CPU on 4k vids as well, which is welcome. I can't speak to who they've copied but this is alright by me. Credit where it's due.
Edit: my satisfaction ultimately hinges upon how resistant this new UI is to my YT improvement addons. I just realized DeArrow is broken and I hate seeing clickbait thumbnails again.
Here's a screenshot of what it looks like for me, with SponsorBlock. The time text seems difficult to read, and the play button looks awkward in my opinion. It's got two rounded edges and one sharp edge.
Edit: I made a userstyle to recreate the old look called Old School YouTube Player
I blame Netflix for pioneering the "0.5pixels is enough for a uniform contrast outline" fad, which everyone else copies. Give me a thick black outline any day please. I attempted to send Netflix feedback on the accessibility issues caused by their uniform subtitle style, but was ignored. I guess only a tiny amount of users would change their subtitle style in the first place.
The old youtube player, which I still see for now, uses a semitransparent gradient, which will also do the job just fine. I guess the geniuses at Youtube removed the gradient and didn't think about making changes to compensate for low contrast between the time text and bright frames?
Ive had terrible buffering problems with Youtube on my PC for months even though I pay for premium. Now it loads 4k and has no issues keeping up the playback. Credit where it’s due they really improved the service for me for a change
I believe this was just a UI change, nothing technical like a codec update, though a lot of videos are using AV1 and VP9 now. Not sure why this would suddenly make your videos work properly, I wonder if your browser wasn't properly configured to use the right codec. I've had issues like that before with YouTube where my Internet is fine but because of a configuration error somewhere, videos wouldn't load properly.
Youtube was fully down for a while on wednesday, and I read something about newer and exciting anti-download protections, so there just might have been a big backend upgrade too.
They've been rolling out the new Proof of Origin Token requirement for a while, now, and it appears to be applying to more videos by default.
It's been a pain because I've used TubeSync—which uses
yt-dlpunderneath—to automatically download videos from certain channels to my Plex library (so my son can still watch some of the quality content without having the algorithm's constant "Here's something else you'll like!" enticement) because YouTube was essentially banned from our home several years ago, and it hasn't been able to properly download anything for several weeks.I spent some time trying to figure it out, but I think part of the problem is the
yt-dlpversion included in the Docker image needs to be updated but attempting to update the package from within the image somehow breaks the TubeSync processes from starting up correctly. I just need to get around to spending more time trying to figure it out.Nothing says Sunday afternoon quite like cursing your way through 40 errors in someone else's code
Oh noes.
Is downloading YT vids considered piracy?
Depends on who you ask, right? You're downloading it in the process of watching it in the first place, but youtube keeps doing their hardest to break yt-dlp and equivalent, thereby breaking a lot of things that rely on youtube video "integration". I'm sure they don't care so much about the copying aspect of it rather than their primary goal of one day being able to force users to watch fifteen ads before every five minute video.
Always so annoying. The amazing part is that when YouTube debuts their new latest anti download technology, the absolute heroes over at youtube-dl and yt-dlp usually take maybe an hour or two to figure out how to defeat it and upload a patch to resolve it.
I've gotta wonder why Google even bothers to spend the no doubt gargantuanly expensive engineer time to try to stop downloading. It's clearly a battle they can't win and it just ends up wasting a lot of people's time.
I assume that's the entire point? Sure server-side ad-injection is great for Google's bottom line, and that affects yt-dlp and Invidious, but anything exclusively "We'll use this to slow down piracy"? That feels designed to cause juuust enough pain that normal people will just throw up their hands and watch the damn ads.
That pain makes normal people give up and watch the ads, bumping ad revenue growth. But it's also just possible enough to work around that even the geeks will keep using YouTube, letting Google keep their network effect. Any easier and they lose ad revenue. Any harder and Peertube / Odysee start to attract the geeks - that is, the people most likely to be willing and able to submit PRs for UI / UX, or to cross-upload their videos out of spite.
IMO, pissing you off is Google's explicit goal here.
Maybe, but I think that may be both overestimating googles technical competence and long term planning skills.
I don't really think that if Google had some foolproof way to stop people from being able to download their content without inconveniencing their legitimate users, they'd hesitate in deploying it.
I just think it's a very difficult, if not impossible problem to permanently solve, but they spend lots of engineering time trying to anyway.
Well they certainly fixed something for me in the encoding or backend or something. I’ve spent so much time this year trying to figure out why videos load on my mac and TV but my beefy PC that is hardwired just wasn’t having it. Ive scoured the obscure reddit threads, tinkered with my ethernet settings, the codecs and the about:page. The update that brought the new UI fixed the issues I was having. So hooray!
Between this, which is just following Apple's liquid glass suit (I want to make an emperor's new clothes joke here and all the other emperors jumping on that guy's bandwagon), the terrible phone redesign (which removed the ability to swipe to reject a call) and clock app redesign (which also removed the swipe to snooze and had the text not even fitting within the same line in some sections) they had done a while back, which they have fixed to some extent, I seriously doubt the capability of these UI/UX designers. It's user interface design and user experience, not just designing something that looks cool that messes with usability that's been working. Already. For ages. Not that tech companies calling themselves user-centric has ever meant user-friendly. But what is this level of competence?
I seriously feel that it's a case of "if we're not changing, we're not keeping up and keeping it interesting." I'm guessing there's studies performed that if a service keeps everything the same, UI wise, while others are changing things around, the users see that unchanging service as stagnating.
I would love to believe that they make research-backed decisions but I'm not entirely convinced that it doesn't have to do with some employees justifying their roles within the company.
That's the business idea of continuous improvement. Everything can be changed or improved at any point in time and we should continuously look for opportunities to do so.
It's part of my job description, continuous improvement, and while it has its merits, you mostly see wasteful efforts towards something that needs no change.
This one annoys me the most. They truly have made a perfectly fine application worse in every way possible.
I could also swear that alarms previously didn't have a save button when making changes. Which tripped me up when I thought I had changed the alarm sounds recently.
It did auto-save previously. They've added additional clicks. I'm also pretty sure the edit alarm used to expand below instead of being in a new pop-up screen. And inexplicably, the font used for time in the edit alarm section is different from the font used on the list of alarms screen.
If anyone using a Mac doesn't like the new controls (or any of the other weird stuff YouTube does with their players, I highly recommend something like Stop the Madness or Vinegar, both of which replace the YouTube player with the default OS controls.
Edit: Both work with SponsorBlock.
The like/dislike buttons in fullscreen make sense, as does the comments panel. It looks sleeker, and I'm seeing a little benefit to my CPU on 4k vids as well, which is welcome. I can't speak to who they've copied but this is alright by me. Credit where it's due.
Edit: my satisfaction ultimately hinges upon how resistant this new UI is to my YT improvement addons. I just realized DeArrow is broken and I hate seeing clickbait thumbnails again.