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    1. Are there any current Kagi extended trial codes?

      Around this time last year, Kagi gave away extended (3-month) trial code for customers to share with others. I've done the standard Kagi trial (100 searches) and I like some of it, but I've been...

      Around this time last year, Kagi gave away extended (3-month) trial code for customers to share with others. I've done the standard Kagi trial (100 searches) and I like some of it, but I've been stingy in using my limited supply of searches, so I wasn't able to evaluate it in full day-to-day use.

      Are they offering the same extended trials this year? If so, would anyone here be willing to share one of their codes for my noble mediocre cause of evaluating if I'd like to pay for Kagi going forward?

      Thanks!

      20 votes
    2. Duck Duck Go search AI curiously cited Tildes

      I was trying to find out why Lidarr wasn't matching my copy of The Cure's Greatest Hits. Found out I've got some bootleg Russian release that's catalogued on discogs (I eventually found the...

      I was trying to find out why Lidarr wasn't matching my copy of The Cure's Greatest Hits. Found out I've got some bootleg Russian release that's catalogued on discogs (I eventually found the musicbrainz release and updated my profile to include bootlegs). So I search "Lidarr use specific discogs release" and the duck duck go search assist spat out some text about Lidarr not using discogs and cited this Tildes post.

      It's curious because that post is 3yrs old and doesn't talk about discogs integration in Lidarr, just one mention of discogs in the post and some folks talking about Lidarr in the comments (It did cite a relevant GitHub issue about it though). The AI response mentioned that some users track new releases with Lidarr and downloads disabled, while covered in the post, it seems fairly tangential to my query.

      I'm curious why it decided to check or cite a tildes post. No tildes posts came up in the first couple pages of search results. I use tildes from the same location, though on my phone where this query was on my desktop, and have done a couple DDG queries using "site:tildes.net" on my phone.

      Has anyone else seen a search assist cite an unexpected site? Not unexpected as in irrelevant, that's all too common, but small and specific sources.

      29 votes
    3. Why does this happen?

      A photographer I knew passed away, and I was trying to see if there was any information. This was the top result I got on google. The part after the ellipses says “killed in a plane accident in...

      A photographer I knew passed away, and I was trying to see if there was any information. This was the top result I got on google. The part after the ellipses says “killed in a plane accident in Pantanal.”

      He did not die in the plane accident! That’s another piece of Brazilian news, about the architect Kongjian Yu. The search result is even tagged with Yu’s Sponge City/Cidade Esponja.

      So why is this showing up for a post summary about José Bassit? There’s nothing in the post comments or the post itself saying anything like this.

      14 votes
    4. Long-term experiences with Google search alternatives?

      I've tried DDG for some time, but I keep finding myself using !g to find better results. I read a comment on Reddit that you just need to get used to searching things differently, but I'm starting...

      I've tried DDG for some time, but I keep finding myself using !g to find better results. I read a comment on Reddit that you just need to get used to searching things differently, but I'm starting to think that DDG just isn't very good. Kagi works well and I use the free version a bit for academic stuff, but I don't see myself paying for a search engine. Anyone have long-term reviews of search engines like Brave, Qwant, etc.?

      45 votes
    5. Anyone interested in trying out Kagi? (trial giveaway: round #2)

      We recently did a Kagi trial giveaway, and I have since received another email from Kagi with 3 additional trial codes. I'm assuming other Kagi subscribers also received the same thing (I got my...

      We recently did a Kagi trial giveaway, and I have since received another email from Kagi with 3 additional trial codes. I'm assuming other Kagi subscribers also received the same thing (I got my email on February 25 with the subject line "A treat from us"), so I figure we're due for another giveaway topic.

      As before, if you would like an invite, please request it in a comment.

      If you have invites to give, please PM them to requesters, then reply to their comment so that other givers will know they've been sent one and don't double up.

      50 votes
    6. To those who have been trying out Kagi: what do you think of it?

      It’s been about a month and a half since our big Kagi trial giveaway, which means most people are probably about halfway through their trial periods, so I figured we were due for a follow-up. To...

      It’s been about a month and a half since our big Kagi trial giveaway, which means most people are probably about halfway through their trial periods, so I figured we were due for a follow-up.

      To those who started using it recently, what are your thoughts?

      What do you like and dislike about Kagi?

      Do you think you will continue your subscription past the end of the trial?


      Note: I’m not affiliated with Kagi in any way besides being a happy customer myself. I’m asking this entirely out of curiosity.

      54 votes
    7. Walled gardens, privacy, SEO and the open internet

      Hey all! So I was thinking of how when looking at privacy, having a platform being a walled garden (i.e. data not being found on search engines) can feel like a worse experience for what is...

      Hey all!

      So I was thinking of how when looking at privacy, having a platform being a walled garden (i.e. data not being found on search engines) can feel like a worse experience for what is regarded as the open internet.

      I don't have a solid solution for this. So my question to you is,

      How do you respect privacy while sharing content for search engines on a platform?

      13 votes
    8. Anyone interested in trying out Kagi?

      Edit: I have sent my link to three different people and I am out. Assuming they sign up. However, a lot of people also have invite links that commented. I guess a system would be for the...

      Edit: I have sent my link to three different people and I am out. Assuming they sign up. However, a lot of people also have invite links that commented. I guess a system would be for the invite-giver to reply to the comment of the invite-receiver to keep track?

      —-

      I received a link during Thanksgiving that lets me invite several people to a free trial of Kagi.

      I tried convincing friends to try it out but most of them were not even interested in a free trial to a paid search engine.

      If any of you are interested, please let me know.

      I'll give you my link in private and you can register yourself to the free trial.

      Posting just in case people are on the same boat as me.

      --

      Also, I hope it's appropriate to start a topic on this?
      Let me know if this is frowned upon.

      58 votes
    9. Very unusual behaviour trying to use Duck Duck Go. Any suggestions for what to do?

      Solution I added 20.43.161.105 duckduckgo.com to my hosts file and everything is working fine now. I also changed DNS servers away from my ISPs, thanks to all the recommendations in this thread....

      Solution

      I added 20.43.161.105 duckduckgo.com to my hosts file and everything is working fine now.
      I also changed DNS servers away from my ISPs, thanks to all the recommendations in this thread.

      cat /etc/resolve.conf
      nameserver 1.1.1.1
      nameserver 1.0.0.1
      

      That seems to be working

      > nslookup duckduckgo.com
      Server:		1.1.1.1
      Address:	1.1.1.1#53
      
      Non-authoritative answer:
      Name:	duckduckgo.com
      Address: 202.39.62.156
      Name:	duckduckgo.com
      Address: 2001:b000:1a0:3505:202:39:62:15d
      

      except (note that non-autoratative IP address which belongs to my ISP) ...

      > ping -4 duckduckgo.com 
      PING duckduckgo.com (202.39.62.156) 56(84) bytes of data.
      

      My ISPs address again. More...

      traceroute to duckduckgo.com (202.39.62.156), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
       1  * * *
       2  * * *
       3  * * *
      ...
      30 * * * *
      

      Why do ping and traceroute not use the new DNS server's I've configured (after re-booting too_)
      The only thing to work is to add

      20.43.161.105 duckduckgo.com
      

      to my hosts file and now everything seems to be working as expected, though I have doubts now that changing the DNS configuration has done any good.

      I know ISPs cache things like youtube to reduce costs so I'm wondering if 202.39.62.156 handled caching of duckduckgo, and they pointed their nameservers there and that box is broken.

      Thanks for everyone's input and patience (lol are you still reading???)


      Original Question

      I've used Duck Duck Go as my main search engine for many, many years.
      I have several search engines installed in Firefox including 2 for duck duck go. One for the /lite version and one for the full version.

      [See update at bottom]

      In recent days neither of these work. I would type my query into the search engine, press enter as I have done for years.

      All I see is a blank page.

      The latest development is that when I try and enter ANY search to either of those engines I get a GOOGLE 404 not found page.

          
          traceroute duckduckgo.com                                                                                                             ─╯
          traceroute to duckduckgo.com (216.239.38.120), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
           1  * * *
           2  * * *
           3  The usual internal routing of my ISP
           4  ""          ""            ""
           5  ""          ""            ""
           6  ""          ""            ""
           7  ""          ""            ""
           8  * * *
           9  any-in-2678.1e100.net (216.239.38.120)  4.089 ms  4.077 ms  4.181 ms
          
          ping duckduckgo.com                                                                                                                   ─╯
          PING duckduckgo.com (2001:4860:4802:32::78) 56 data bytes
          64 bytes from any-in-2001-4860-4802-32--78.1e100.net (2001:4860:4802:32::78): icmp_seq=1 ttl=117 time=10.1 ms
          64 bytes from any-in-2001-4860-4802-32--78.1e100.net (2001:4860:4802:32::78): icmp_seq=2 ttl=117 time=8.52 ms
          64 bytes from any-in-2001-4860-4802-32--78.1e100.net (2001:4860:4802:32::78): icmp_seq=3 ttl=117 time=6.87 ms
          64 bytes from any-in-2001-4860-4802-32--78.1e100.net (2001:4860:4802:32::78): icmp_seq=4 ttl=117 time=8.83 ms
          
          --- duckduckgo.com ping statistics ---
          4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3005ms
          rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 6.873/8.584/10.118/1.155 ms
      
      cat /etc/resolv.conf
      > MY ISPs name servers
      > MY ISPs name servers
      

      Sure enough I cannot find any pages on the site 2001-4860-4802-32--78.1e100.net which is obviously belongs to google.

      This is very very strange.

      Could someone verify if they can use DDG or whether they see the same as me?
      Does anyone have any idea what's happening?


      UPDATE
      I can connect to and use DuckDuckGo using a browser VPN. This appears to be a mess made by my ISP.
      I'd still like suggestion to overcome the problem though.

      14 votes