I actually spent five years stationed at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs (was an enlisted medic in the hospital there). When you become a sergeant, you have to go through this six-week...
I actually spent five years stationed at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs (was an enlisted medic in the hospital there). When you become a sergeant, you have to go through this six-week course called ALS and I did mine down at Peterson. There were a couple cops from Cheyenne Mountain in my class and they had some funny stories about people trying to sneak in to see the Stargate. There was one family that came all the way from Sweden and climbed over the backside of the mountain to get on base. They got arrested and deported for that little stunt.
I watched a lot of reruns of it on my crappy CRT with a bunny ear antenna as a kid, never was a super fan or anything but it definitely seemed like the coolest show on any of the 5 channels we got...
I watched a lot of reruns of it on my crappy CRT with a bunny ear antenna as a kid, never was a super fan or anything but it definitely seemed like the coolest show on any of the 5 channels we got haha
As a lifelong fan of the three main series, I couldn't be more excited. SG-1 and Atlantis will always have a nostalgic sweet spot in my heart. Universe had so much potential, and helped give me an...
As a lifelong fan of the three main series, I couldn't be more excited. SG-1 and Atlantis will always have a nostalgic sweet spot in my heart. Universe had so much potential, and helped give me an appreciation for grittier science fiction. The franchise has great heart.
While I think older Star Treks (TNG and DS9 in particular) do a better job of exploring moral and philosophical problems through a technological lens, modern Star Trek is such bastardized action schlock, it's created a big opportunity to create modern optimistic science fiction. Let's hope they pull it off!
Yep. I especially remember my feelings of betrayal at the Section 42 trailer. That just screamed to me 'how low can Star Trek go?' I've only seen about 1/2 of season 1 of Strange New Worlds, but...
modern Star Trek is such bastardized action schlock
Yep. I especially remember my feelings of betrayal at the Section 42 trailer. That just screamed to me 'how low can Star Trek go?'
I've only seen about 1/2 of season 1 of Strange New Worlds, but that seemed good to me, though I've been told it goes downhill in later seasons?
I thought SNW S1 was great when I saw it a few years ago. Finally got around to S2 a few weeks ago, S2E1 lost me. Trying to decide if I should keep going.
I thought SNW S1 was great when I saw it a few years ago. Finally got around to S2 a few weeks ago, S2E1 lost me. Trying to decide if I should keep going.
I think SNW is worth it, for sure. In the latest season, Season 3, they genuinely reached their lowest point in a couple episodes in the middle. But they refound their footing and made some good...
I think SNW is worth it, for sure. In the latest season, Season 3, they genuinely reached their lowest point in a couple episodes in the middle. But they refound their footing and made some good episodes and I really appreciated where they left it and what they did with it by the time I could look at the season as whole.
I believe they've already outlined how many episodes are left, and they're of course going somewhere with Kirk and Spock for the successor show. Those teases have, for the most part, been enjoyable.
At the end of the day, I don't think of Star Trek as some untouchable thing up on a pedestal. I am appreciative of the fact that they're working on the IP and putting out new ideas. I'd generally prefer that than endlessly pining for something to happen.
Depends on what exactly it was that lost you with season 2, I suppose. I found this to be the weakest of the three seasons so far, but only in that I don’t find the episodes that memorable. I’m...
Depends on what exactly it was that lost you with season 2, I suppose. I found this to be the weakest of the three seasons so far, but only in that I don’t find the episodes that memorable. I’m struggling to recall more than a few snatches of events from various episodes, though the overall season arc is memorable. Only one episode really stands out to me as a whole, and that’s one that focuses primarily on Erica Ortegas. It’s not a bad season, just not as memorable.
It was very forgettable. I watched it when it came and couldn't tell you anything that happened aside from the general premise. Can't remember a thing that happened. I would say not worth it
It was very forgettable. I watched it when it came and couldn't tell you anything that happened aside from the general premise. Can't remember a thing that happened. I would say not worth it
I'd like to think the absurd amount of Stargate I've watched over the past few years is a major factor in this getting greenlit, lol. Jokes aside, it seems like Amazon has done well with its...
I'd like to think the absurd amount of Stargate I've watched over the past few years is a major factor in this getting greenlit, lol.
Jokes aside, it seems like Amazon has done well with its sci-fi series, so I'm cautiously optimistic that this will turn out good. As long as they keep the ensemble cast and "doesn't take itself too seriously" format, it has great potential.
The choice to officially announce it with a zoom call between the creators and a couple of fan site admins is what gives me real hope for this one. There would’ve been nothing wrong with a...
The choice to officially announce it with a zoom call between the creators and a couple of fan site admins is what gives me real hope for this one.
There would’ve been nothing wrong with a produced 30s teaser, as long as they got the tone right - but the janky, very human approach they took, with Joseph Mallozzi in the corner grinning like a kid at Christmas the whole time just felt genuine in a way that so much current media doesn’t.
As much as I love Universe, I have to agree. Love me some grit but I think we all need something upbeat these days. And there's very little competition in the sci fi space from the last few years!
As much as I love Universe, I have to agree. Love me some grit but I think we all need something upbeat these days. And there's very little competition in the sci fi space from the last few years!
From consulting producer Joseph Mallozzi's blog post:
Exact plot details for the series are being kept under wraps. The series will be produced by Amazon MGM Studios and air on Prime Video.
“Twenty years ago, my first real job in television was as a Story Editor on ‘Stargate: Atlantis,'” Gero said. “I spent five years at the franchise working across all three series, ‘Stargate’ taught me everything about making television — it’s written into my DNA...”
From consulting producer Joseph Mallozzi's blog post:
Now I obviously can’t say too much about the content at this point – but I can assure you that it embraces everything that made the original Stargates so great: heart, humor, rich mythology, exploration, action, adventure, compelling/endearing characters, and that overall sense of optimism and fun that made you fall in love with Stargate.
Now putting this production together is going to take some time even though Martin has already done a lot of the preliminary heavy lifting, writing the pilot script and series overview that details the show, its world and characters, as well as his plans for the first season and beyond. Between now and the series premiere somewhere down the line, the writers room must be assembled, stories need to be spun, scripts written, prep started, crew hired, actors cast and, eventually, a new Stargate series produced.
The only scifi show I'd rank above it is Babylon 5, and not by much. It's better than all of the others, has the best groundhog day episode of all time, and with 3 series at 10/5/2 seasons...
The only scifi show I'd rank above it is Babylon 5, and not by much. It's better than all of the others, has the best groundhog day episode of all time, and with 3 series at 10/5/2 seasons respectively, the whopping total of 354 episodes and six movies will keep you entertained for a long, long time. ;)
That’s a hell of a question, actually! TNG at its best beats Stargate at its best, but if I were to pick five random episodes of each I might actually bet on Stargate winning overall…
That’s a hell of a question, actually! TNG at its best beats Stargate at its best, but if I were to pick five random episodes of each I might actually bet on Stargate winning overall…
I'd agree with that assessment. I'd only rank it above TNG because there are more top tier Stargate episodes than there are top tier TNG episodes. There's so much Stargate, and now we'll get even...
I'd agree with that assessment. I'd only rank it above TNG because there are more top tier Stargate episodes than there are top tier TNG episodes. There's so much Stargate, and now we'll get even more. :)
Not a reboot. Original Stargate creators brought in. "Embraces everything that made the original Stargates..." You have my hopes up. Please don't let them down.
Not a reboot.
Original Stargate creators brought in.
"Embraces everything that made the original Stargates..."
This and Buffy going down the revival route fills me with nostalgic joy. I've longed for a (proper) continuation after that awkward Atlantis ending. I'm curious how any of the EU stuff gets...
This and Buffy going down the revival route fills me with nostalgic joy.
I've longed for a (proper) continuation after that awkward Atlantis ending. I'm curious how any of the EU stuff gets handled (or not).
Will be hard not to get over excited. I just hope we get to see General Carter.
I'm cautiously optimistic. The reddit kids are already going wild, and that's cute and all but I have no demands or expectations other than that they'll try their best and deliver the best show...
I'm cautiously optimistic. The reddit kids are already going wild, and that's cute and all but I have no demands or expectations other than that they'll try their best and deliver the best show that they can.
My only demand is that they add a 4th-shot effect to the zat gun. Maybe it rewrites time to make sure the object or person never existed? Not sure how you can hit the target after the 3rd shot...
My only demand is that they add a 4th-shot effect to the zat gun. Maybe it rewrites time to make sure the object or person never existed? Not sure how you can hit the target after the 3rd shot disintegrates it, but I will leave that to the writers to figure out.
I'm in the other direction: get rid of the 3rd-shot disintegration. It never made sense and, as they say in the BTS of Wormhole X-Treme, it was just to avoid needing background bodies.
I'm in the other direction: get rid of the 3rd-shot disintegration. It never made sense and, as they say in the BTS of Wormhole X-Treme, it was just to avoid needing background bodies.
I'm so in for this, and with modern budget and effects it'll make for quite the spectacle. Hopefully they'll tie up the loose ends from Atlantis and Universe. I'm still ticked that they canned...
I'm so in for this, and with modern budget and effects it'll make for quite the spectacle. Hopefully they'll tie up the loose ends from Atlantis and Universe. I'm still ticked that they canned Universe just when it was threatening to turn into the best of the three series. Stargate is just too big and rich, a reboot would be a total waste of a mountain of delicious canon. A continuation is just what the doctor ordered.
Hey, Universe could always come back and respect the canon. Honestly, it would probably be the best way to "soft reboot" it with no Earth bodyswapping stone connection at all. They could probably...
Hey, Universe could always come back and respect the canon. Honestly, it would probably be the best way to "soft reboot" it with no Earth bodyswapping stone connection at all. They could probably build a whole season out of stasis hangover stuff, trying to figure out how much time has passed, where the Destiny wound up. It's also a really easy excuse to kill off any characters whose actors can't come back.
If it were up to me... *Spoilers for Stargate : Universe* I'd always assumed that they'd eventually walk the tone of SGU back towards the original SG1 and bring the hope back - not that I mind the...
If it were up to me...
*Spoilers for Stargate : Universe*
I'd always assumed that they'd eventually walk the tone of SGU back towards the original SG1 and bring the hope back - not that I mind the gritty, I just get tired of the dystopian. I'd have had them slowly uncovering the ship's secrets and restoring it piece by piece until it was back in great condition again throughout the series alongside the various episodic plots. That ship represents humanity's lost legacy, it's the story and the prize while they ride it around the galaxy. Eventually at the end I'd have liked to see them return the ship to Earth after finally getting it under control. It's Stargate's 'starship enterprise' in a sense, and it'd make the finest flagship for Earth's forces anyone could ever wish for. Great way to do a surprise evening of the odds if humanity finds themselves outgunned by events in the new series.
SGU's saving grace is that they left it parked perfectly to explain large time gaps and changes in the casting - though if Robert Carlyle isn't brought back as a recurring guest I'm going to be miffed, he's always been one of my absolute favorite actors and he was brilliant in SGU. I'd expect them to try to gate to the ship again if they can find a planet with a suitable quantity of naquadria to power the connection... hopefully this time without detonating the planet (which was a really tacky way to strand them on it at the beginning - do better this time). Also let's not blow the damn ship up either, Star Trek got into the habit of blowing up the enterprise all the time and that was also tacky as hell. Only done right once imo, in Star Trek III.
They could pick up something along these lines and weave it into the new series.
Was never really a Star Wars or Star Trek guy, but I spent 20 years in the Air Force because of this franchise. I'm fucking stoked.
Well??? Did you get to go inside the Cheyenne Mountain base and see the ring??
I actually spent five years stationed at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs (was an enlisted medic in the hospital there). When you become a sergeant, you have to go through this six-week course called ALS and I did mine down at Peterson. There were a couple cops from Cheyenne Mountain in my class and they had some funny stories about people trying to sneak in to see the Stargate. There was one family that came all the way from Sweden and climbed over the backside of the mountain to get on base. They got arrested and deported for that little stunt.
Never did get inside the mountain myself though.
I watched a lot of reruns of it on my crappy CRT with a bunny ear antenna as a kid, never was a super fan or anything but it definitely seemed like the coolest show on any of the 5 channels we got haha
As a lifelong fan of the three main series, I couldn't be more excited. SG-1 and Atlantis will always have a nostalgic sweet spot in my heart. Universe had so much potential, and helped give me an appreciation for grittier science fiction. The franchise has great heart.
While I think older Star Treks (TNG and DS9 in particular) do a better job of exploring moral and philosophical problems through a technological lens, modern Star Trek is such bastardized action schlock, it's created a big opportunity to create modern optimistic science fiction. Let's hope they pull it off!
Yep. I especially remember my feelings of betrayal at the Section 42 trailer. That just screamed to me 'how low can Star Trek go?'
I've only seen about 1/2 of season 1 of Strange New Worlds, but that seemed good to me, though I've been told it goes downhill in later seasons?
I thought SNW S1 was great when I saw it a few years ago. Finally got around to S2 a few weeks ago, S2E1 lost me. Trying to decide if I should keep going.
I think SNW is worth it, for sure. In the latest season, Season 3, they genuinely reached their lowest point in a couple episodes in the middle. But they refound their footing and made some good episodes and I really appreciated where they left it and what they did with it by the time I could look at the season as whole.
I believe they've already outlined how many episodes are left, and they're of course going somewhere with Kirk and Spock for the successor show. Those teases have, for the most part, been enjoyable.
At the end of the day, I don't think of Star Trek as some untouchable thing up on a pedestal. I am appreciative of the fact that they're working on the IP and putting out new ideas. I'd generally prefer that than endlessly pining for something to happen.
Season one of SNW had me soooooo happy.
S2E1 is mediocre, the rest of S2 is good
Depends on what exactly it was that lost you with season 2, I suppose. I found this to be the weakest of the three seasons so far, but only in that I don’t find the episodes that memorable. I’m struggling to recall more than a few snatches of events from various episodes, though the overall season arc is memorable. Only one episode really stands out to me as a whole, and that’s one that focuses primarily on Erica Ortegas. It’s not a bad season, just not as memorable.
Don't even mention Stargate Origins? Ouch :p
No hate, I just never got around to it. Should I?
It was very forgettable. I watched it when it came and couldn't tell you anything that happened aside from the general premise. Can't remember a thing that happened. I would say not worth it
I am still sad that Universe got canned just as it really hit its stride.
I'd like to think the absurd amount of Stargate I've watched over the past few years is a major factor in this getting greenlit, lol.
Jokes aside, it seems like Amazon has done well with its sci-fi series, so I'm cautiously optimistic that this will turn out good. As long as they keep the ensemble cast and "doesn't take itself too seriously" format, it has great potential.
Martin Gero was at pains to stress how much fans re-watching the show actually did matter in the announcement video which just dropped
The choice to officially announce it with a zoom call between the creators and a couple of fan site admins is what gives me real hope for this one.
There would’ve been nothing wrong with a produced 30s teaser, as long as they got the tone right - but the janky, very human approach they took, with Joseph Mallozzi in the corner grinning like a kid at Christmas the whole time just felt genuine in a way that so much current media doesn’t.
Yeah, if they go the gritty dark route like Universe I think it will flop. Something closer to Atlantis is the right direction.
As much as I love Universe, I have to agree. Love me some grit but I think we all need something upbeat these days. And there's very little competition in the sci fi space from the last few years!
From consulting producer Joseph Mallozzi's blog post:
That is one of the major sci-fi franchises I know nothing about. Maybe it is time to correct that.
It definitely is. SG-1 and Atlantis are fantastic shows if you enjoy sci-fi. Highly recommend.
The only scifi show I'd rank above it is Babylon 5, and not by much. It's better than all of the others, has the best groundhog day episode of all time, and with 3 series at 10/5/2 seasons respectively, the whopping total of 354 episodes and six movies will keep you entertained for a long, long time. ;)
"Better than TNG" sounds like blasphemy!
That’s a hell of a question, actually! TNG at its best beats Stargate at its best, but if I were to pick five random episodes of each I might actually bet on Stargate winning overall…
I'd agree with that assessment. I'd only rank it above TNG because there are more top tier Stargate episodes than there are top tier TNG episodes. There's so much Stargate, and now we'll get even more. :)
Not a reboot.
Original Stargate creators brought in.
"Embraces everything that made the original Stargates..."
You have my hopes up. Please don't let them down.
This and Buffy going down the revival route fills me with nostalgic joy.
I've longed for a (proper) continuation after that awkward Atlantis ending. I'm curious how any of the EU stuff gets handled (or not).
Will be hard not to get over excited. I just hope we get to see General Carter.
I'm cautiously optimistic. The reddit kids are already going wild, and that's cute and all but I have no demands or expectations other than that they'll try their best and deliver the best show that they can.
My only demand is that they add a 4th-shot effect to the zat gun. Maybe it rewrites time to make sure the object or person never existed? Not sure how you can hit the target after the 3rd shot disintegrates it, but I will leave that to the writers to figure out.
“What’s that?”
“A zat’nik’tel.”
“What does it do?”
“Solves immediate plot holes at the cost of opening bigger ones later.”
“Groovy.”
I'm in the other direction: get rid of the 3rd-shot disintegration. It never made sense and, as they say in the BTS of Wormhole X-Treme, it was just to avoid needing background bodies.
I'm so in for this, and with modern budget and effects it'll make for quite the spectacle. Hopefully they'll tie up the loose ends from Atlantis and Universe. I'm still ticked that they canned Universe just when it was threatening to turn into the best of the three series. Stargate is just too big and rich, a reboot would be a total waste of a mountain of delicious canon. A continuation is just what the doctor ordered.
Would say a Cheyenne Mountain of canon?
Hey, Universe could always come back and respect the canon. Honestly, it would probably be the best way to "soft reboot" it with no Earth bodyswapping stone connection at all. They could probably build a whole season out of stasis hangover stuff, trying to figure out how much time has passed, where the Destiny wound up. It's also a really easy excuse to kill off any characters whose actors can't come back.
If it were up to me...
*Spoilers for Stargate : Universe*
I'd always assumed that they'd eventually walk the tone of SGU back towards the original SG1 and bring the hope back - not that I mind the gritty, I just get tired of the dystopian. I'd have had them slowly uncovering the ship's secrets and restoring it piece by piece until it was back in great condition again throughout the series alongside the various episodic plots. That ship represents humanity's lost legacy, it's the story and the prize while they ride it around the galaxy. Eventually at the end I'd have liked to see them return the ship to Earth after finally getting it under control. It's Stargate's 'starship enterprise' in a sense, and it'd make the finest flagship for Earth's forces anyone could ever wish for. Great way to do a surprise evening of the odds if humanity finds themselves outgunned by events in the new series.
SGU's saving grace is that they left it parked perfectly to explain large time gaps and changes in the casting - though if Robert Carlyle isn't brought back as a recurring guest I'm going to be miffed, he's always been one of my absolute favorite actors and he was brilliant in SGU. I'd expect them to try to gate to the ship again if they can find a planet with a suitable quantity of naquadria to power the connection... hopefully this time without detonating the planet (which was a really tacky way to strand them on it at the beginning - do better this time). Also let's not blow the damn ship up either, Star Trek got into the habit of blowing up the enterprise all the time and that was also tacky as hell. Only done right once imo, in Star Trek III.
They could pick up something along these lines and weave it into the new series.