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The Mandalorian | S02E08: The Rescue

The Mandalorian and the Child continue their journey through a dangerous galaxy.


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  1. [8]
    moocow1452
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    Maybe I don't have have the necessary tie to the Star Wars heartstrings for the ending to land, but it certainly felt like Luke Skywalker came in out of nowhere on his X-Wing, cleared out all the...

    Maybe I don't have have the necessary tie to the Star Wars heartstrings for the ending to land, but it certainly felt like Luke Skywalker came in out of nowhere on his X-Wing, cleared out all the bad guys, yoinked the most interesting character and relationship from the show, and left us with political drama set in the Star Wars universe that I didn't sign up for at all.

    11 votes
    1. [5]
      BlindCarpenter
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      I have to respectfully disagree. This hit all the beats for me. I doubt Grogu is gone, he must return in season 3. So far they seem to have a very cohesive story plan, so I am excited to see what...

      I have to respectfully disagree. This hit all the beats for me. I doubt Grogu is gone, he must return in season 3. So far they seem to have a very cohesive story plan, so I am excited to see what happens in S3. I really doubt they are just going to wing it. And that bit with Luke was amazing, its what I have been waiting for since Return of the Jedi. Makes me wish we could just forget about that sequel trilogy and start again from this point in the story.
      And I should add, they showed just the right amount of Luke here. This isn't a parlor trick they can abuse over and over again, but I thought it was very fitting at the end of this episode, it made for quite a finale.

      10 votes
      1. dubteedub
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        Luke's entrance was very reminiscent of Vader's hallway fight in Rogue One for me. Just showing how powerful he can be in his prime. I thought it was a great reveal.

        Luke's entrance was very reminiscent of Vader's hallway fight in Rogue One for me. Just showing how powerful he can be in his prime. I thought it was a great reveal.

        9 votes
      2. [3]
        moocow1452
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        Does he though? And even if he does return, and even he and Mando find a reason to party up again, there's a sense of finality in the scene that I'm picking up where it is no longer a simple "Lone...

        I doubt Grogu is gone, he must return in season 3.

        Does he though? And even if he does return, and even he and Mando find a reason to party up again, there's a sense of finality in the scene that I'm picking up where it is no longer a simple "Lone Wolf and Cub" show wandering unexplored corners of the Star Wars universe, and more of an extension of the Clone Wars cartoon that leads into more spinoffs with more characters and consequences that further add to the L O R E.

        Re: Luke (cc: @dubteedub): Luke showing up doesn't work for me for a few reasons,
        1. I'd rather have a new face and promote the idea that the galaxy is a big place, maybe have Luke's second or another force welder who had a different take on the Jedi.

        2. Vader and Luke tearing up a corridor work because it's indulgent, and while Vader's has the context of him being the monster that the Rebels barely get away from, Luke is just an ultimate summon or an ultra cutscene powered ally after you got the bosses health down to zero if "The Mandalorian" is in fact a video game.

        3. I'm not sure what changes if team Mando didn't show up. Luke could solo the Dark Troopers, so he probably could have taken the normal troopers and Moff Gideon too and he was following Grogu, so Mando's whole journey through episodes seven and eight was mostly incidental to Luke rescuing a new student.

        8 votes
        1. [2]
          Good_Apollo
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          What can you say? The diehards that care about lore and watch stuff like Clone Wars and Rebels? This is it man, this is the live action show we’ve been waiting for and it has Filoni involvement...

          What can you say? The diehards that care about lore and watch stuff like Clone Wars and Rebels? This is it man, this is the live action show we’ve been waiting for and it has Filoni involvement after all.

          I’m not a gatekeeper but if you’re a casual fan who doesn’t care much about the broader EU story then I think you’re going to be disappointed with a lot of their Star Wars “Phase II”.

          Look to Waititi’s stand-alone film for your look into unexplored parts of the Galaxy with a fresh story and take. I think The Mandalorian is just not that and wasn’t supposed to be.

          I get it though, my dad was constantly asking me “whose that, when does this take place? I thought Luke was the only Jedi?” and stuff when I watched some with him and my explanations just got kind of a “who gives a shit about the cartoons and comics?” attitude. I can empathize but this show has been fucking awesome to me.

          5 votes
          1. teaearlgraycold
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            For someone that’s watching an EU show, your dad really doesn’t seem to like the EU.

            For someone that’s watching an EU show, your dad really doesn’t seem to like the EU.

            1 vote
    2. [2]
      smoontjes
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      I feel much the same way. I really liked the episode and thought Luke's entrance was great, but it also felt kind of hamfisted and very fanservicy - I rolled my eyes when R2D2 came on screen. I...

      I feel much the same way. I really liked the episode and thought Luke's entrance was great, but it also felt kind of hamfisted and very fanservicy - I rolled my eyes when R2D2 came on screen. I know it makes sense for it to be there, but it still felt unnecessary in a way

      6 votes
      1. Good_Apollo
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        I just can’t disagree more. It’s like the people who rolled their eyes at the Death Star being involved in Rogue One or seeing X-Wings do their thing in a space battle again. They’re part of the...

        I just can’t disagree more. It’s like the people who rolled their eyes at the Death Star being involved in Rogue One or seeing X-Wings do their thing in a space battle again. They’re part of the story man, it’s not fan service everytime you see an ISD during the reign of the Empire. They’re just part of it.

        You want to talk about bullshit hollow fan service that serves nothing and deserves an eye roll it’s stuff like the Dr. Evazan/Ponda Baba cameo on Jedha or Cobb Vanth just happening to own Anakin’s Podracer converted to a speeder.

        Why wouldn’t Luke be the one to answer Grogu’s call? And why wouldn’t R2 be with him? It just makes sense.

        4 votes
  2. hamstergeddon
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    My wife and I had our twins a few months before the first season started releasing. Back when they were small and could be held, I'd watch each week's episode with them on the couch. So I can't...

    My wife and I had our twins a few months before the first season started releasing. Back when they were small and could be held, I'd watch each week's episode with them on the couch. So I can't help but draw parallels between my journey as a father with Din's. The details are nothing alike, obviously, but as a relatively new father I've always felt that connection to Din and I've always seen a little bit of my own kids in Grogu. The cooing, the awkward steps, the insatiable curiosity (and hunger). I even caught myself mentally referring to Grogu by my son's name once or twice before "Baby Yoda" got a proper name.

    So the final minutes of this episode just tore me up. Din reluctantly giving Grogu up, Grogu reluctantly going with Luke. Luke's line about Grogu basically wanting Din's permission to leave... gah. I wanted to run upstairs and wake my kids up so I could hug them. I teared up just typing this up.

    8 votes
  3. [2]
    nacho
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    I can't believe this is the end of this season. Just like with season 1, to me it feels like the show could greatly have benefitted from a couple more episodes at the very least to get more out of...

    I can't believe this is the end of this season. Just like with season 1, to me it feels like the show could greatly have benefitted from a couple more episodes at the very least to get more out of an interesting story.

    If more of the unsaid were fleshed out through just more scenes of the same things under the surface not being said (heh), the show'd be much more satisfying to those of us who don't intimately know the different characters from previous lore.

    7 votes
    1. Good_Apollo
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      My only problems are I could have used more stand-alone adventure episodes and more time with Gideon as a villain. You run the risk of the villain becoming a buffoon if he’s thwarted all the time...

      My only problems are I could have used more stand-alone adventure episodes and more time with Gideon as a villain. You run the risk of the villain becoming a buffoon if he’s thwarted all the time though, see: Rebels. I think we’re just so hype to see more and with all the shows coming that plan to intertwine a bit I think we’re going to get what we want eventually, and that’s more awesomeness. It’s just hard to wait a year.

      2 votes
  4. [3]
    dubteedub
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    Man, what an incredible episode. This was probably the single best piece of Star Wars in years. I am so glad that this show is taking off and launching now three separate spin off shows (Ahsoka,...

    Man, what an incredible episode. This was probably the single best piece of Star Wars in years. I am so glad that this show is taking off and launching now three separate spin off shows (Ahsoka, Rangers of the New Republic, and [from post-credits scence] Book of Boba Fett). This set up a really cool arc for Mando to retake Mandalore in season 3 too with some tension between him and Bo Katan over the Dark Saber. After how absolutely abysmal Rise of Skywalker was, I am actually excited about the future of Star Wars again.

    The highlight was obviously the <spoiler> LUKE </spoiler> reveal. It was so well done and great seeing a bad-ass Luke in action.

    Seeing the interplay between Bo Katan and Boba Fett, including the fact that she immediately clocked his voice for a clone, was really interesting and shows just a great appreciation for the lore and how well world-building is handled in this show.

    And man, that post-credits scene callback to ROTJ was just perfect really.

    7 votes
    1. [2]
      BlindCarpenter
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      Yes this got me pumped. I am really excited to see how the story unfolds from here. I can't help but feel disappointed that it all leads to the Sequel Trilogy, but at least there is a couple more...

      Yes this got me pumped. I am really excited to see how the story unfolds from here. I can't help but feel disappointed that it all leads to the Sequel Trilogy, but at least there is a couple more in-universe decades worth of stories between Mandalorian and the Force Awakens for some fun adventures.

      5 votes
      1. Good_Apollo
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        Filoni (and Lucas to be fair) “fixed” the prequels so we can only hope that with a lot of care Disney can make us give even a tiny shit about the ST, even if we ultimately still think they’re bad....

        Filoni (and Lucas to be fair) “fixed” the prequels so we can only hope that with a lot of care Disney can make us give even a tiny shit about the ST, even if we ultimately still think they’re bad. I mean, the prequels are still really bad but at least I can care about the characters and situations better with added context and story.

        1 vote
  5. [4]
    autumn
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    Oh wow. That deep fake was something! My partner and I were convinced it was a lookalike actor.

    Oh wow. That deep fake was something! My partner and I were convinced it was a lookalike actor.

    7 votes
    1. [3]
      nothis
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      Any making ofs for this out yet? I'm curious how they did it. (To be perfectly honest, the eyes were still a bit lifeless, IMO)

      That deep fake was something!

      Any making ofs for this out yet? I'm curious how they did it.

      (To be perfectly honest, the eyes were still a bit lifeless, IMO)

      2 votes
      1. [2]
        Sand
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        IMO everything was a bit lifeless. His lips barely seemed to move.

        IMO everything was a bit lifeless. His lips barely seemed to move.

        4 votes
        1. swizzler
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          Yeah, I can't believe Matt Stone and Trey Parker are outdoing Disney when it comes to deep fakes.

          Yeah, I can't believe Matt Stone and Trey Parker are outdoing Disney when it comes to deep fakes.

          2 votes
  6. [5]
    nothis
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    Yea, ok, that was plain fun! This show is the best thing to come out of the Star Wars franchise since the original trilogy.

    Yea, ok, that was plain fun! This show is the best thing to come out of the Star Wars franchise since the original trilogy.

    5 votes
    1. [4]
      Sand
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      Heh, that's not saying much.

      This show is the best thing to come out of the Star Wars franchise since the original trilogy.

      Heh, that's not saying much.

      2 votes
      1. [3]
        tomf
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        If you're into Star Wars but want the prequels to be better, you should check out Hal9000's prequel edits (more info) These edits fix everything for me. :)

        If you're into Star Wars but want the prequels to be better, you should check out Hal9000's prequel edits (more info)

        These edits fix everything for me. :)

        3 votes
        1. [2]
          Sand
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          Thanks for the recommendation. I've heard of these. Didn't he make edits of the sequel films as well?

          Thanks for the recommendation. I've heard of these. Didn't he make edits of the sequel films as well?

          1 vote
          1. tomf
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            yup! they're all in there if you go up a level. If you hit transfer warnings, you might have to copy them to your own drive or get a friend who has more storage to copy them over, which is a bit...

            yup! they're all in there if you go up a level. If you hit transfer warnings, you might have to copy them to your own drive or get a friend who has more storage to copy them over, which is a bit of a hassle. But once you have them, you'll have them for life.

            He includes commentary tracks, but... well, I appreciate a good commentary track. Pretty much everything he goes through is covered in one of his posts.

            The overall pace is fixed by cutting out a lot of the drawn out political things, excessive Jar Jar, and more. I saw one Sequel edit that was alright, but I just don't like where they took it with those movies.

            quick edit: I think this should cover them all https://ifdb.fanedit.org/fanedit-search/tag/faneditorname/hal-9000/?criteria=2

            2 votes
  7. [7]
    tomf
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    What I loved most about this episode was how it gave context to the power of the Jedi. We often see the Jedi swoop in and destroy everything with grace, but seeing Mando, who until now has been...

    What I loved most about this episode was how it gave context to the power of the Jedi. We often see the Jedi swoop in and destroy everything with grace, but seeing Mando, who until now has been fairly indestructible, nearly get his ass handed to him by one Dark Trooper, it was just nice to see the overall imbalance of power between normal soldiers and the Jedi.

    I'd love to know what Moff Gideon was thinking when he saw Luke come in. I can only imagine that in his mind he's seeing the guy who defeated both Sith lords by himself (if there's any legends or new canon record that the truth of what happened got out, let me know and I'll read the books!) -- it makes sense that he'd immediately think to take the quick and easy way out. Pure dread.

    All in all, I liked the episode. Stupid move to keep your entire Dark Trooper force so close to an airlock, though. Between that and the lack of railings, there are sure a lot of design flaws that the Empire's team needs to address for the future (which we know they don't.)

    I wish they'd forget that the ST ever happened and go back to the Legends timeline. All of this leading into Thrawn, etc, and ultimately Jacen Solo and Ben Skywalker would have been so much better.

    4 votes
    1. [6]
      nothis
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      That show does this sometimes, but it might not be as stupid as it sounds: That airlock might have been a loading dock, basically, so they could be quickly deployed upon landing on a planet.

      Stupid move to keep your entire Dark Trooper force so close to an airlock, though.

      That show does this sometimes, but it might not be as stupid as it sounds: That airlock might have been a loading dock, basically, so they could be quickly deployed upon landing on a planet.

      2 votes
      1. [3]
        tomf
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        ha. yeah, it makes sense -- especially seeing as they can zoop around space and stuff. If I ever design a cruiser or any sort of space ship, I'll definitely have some sort of safety in place so my...

        ha. yeah, it makes sense -- especially seeing as they can zoop around space and stuff.

        If I ever design a cruiser or any sort of space ship, I'll definitely have some sort of safety in place so my death bots can't be sucked out into the void so easily. Maybe a railing...

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          nothis
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          Heh, absolutely. Also why did the guy take off the helmet last episode? I believe a show like this can only work with a certain amount of silliness like that, as did, arguably, the original Star Wars.

          If I ever design a cruiser or any sort of space ship, I'll definitely have some sort of safety in place so my death bots can't be sucked out into the void so easily. Maybe a railing...

          Heh, absolutely. Also why did the guy take off the helmet last episode? I believe a show like this can only work with a certain amount of silliness like that, as did, arguably, the original Star Wars.

          2 votes
          1. tomf
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            yeah, I could justify the helmet thing a thousand times... but ultimately there isn't any reason for him to take it off once they're out of the transport. I think the only proper way out of it is...

            yeah, I could justify the helmet thing a thousand times... but ultimately there isn't any reason for him to take it off once they're out of the transport.

            I think the only proper way out of it is if Cara Dune had broken the guy's helmet. Then when they're changing he tells Din to take the helmet since he believes it doesn't matter if he wears it or not since he's going back to jail anyway, etc. Still convenient, though.

            There's a lot of convenient luck in this universe.... like unjamming your gun at the last second by slamming it against the floor. :)

      2. [2]
        hamstergeddon
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        I was thinking maybe they could even be deployed from orbit. Their armor seems impervious to blaster fire and the one Din fought didn't seem to be slowed down by a direct hit from a flamethrower....

        I was thinking maybe they could even be deployed from orbit. Their armor seems impervious to blaster fire and the one Din fought didn't seem to be slowed down by a direct hit from a flamethrower. Might mean they could be deployed from space and survive at atmospheric entry.

        1. BlindCarpenter
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          well they were deployed from a low orbit in the 6th episode right?

          well they were deployed from a low orbit in the 6th episode right?

          4 votes
  8. screenbeard
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    I loved the episode, and I was cheering and hoping the Jedi was the person it turned out to be BUT Spoilers As soon as he revealed his face and I realised they were deepfaking it, I realised that...

    I loved the episode, and I was cheering and hoping the Jedi was the person it turned out to be BUT

    Spoilers

    As soon as he revealed his face and I realised they were deepfaking it, I realised that this is well and truly it for Luke and Leia and all our favourites.

    Originally fans had the extended universe to enjoy stories with these characters, but they're no longer canon, and the sequels aren't what they could have been.

    But by making the choice to use a CGI Luke, instead of going with a new actor, it's like they're telling us these characters are tied to their actors. Maybe it's just respect for Mark Hamill and maybe there's still time to make a new show or movie with new faces for beloved characters, but they're currently not slated to come back as far as I'm aware.

    Which means I'm worried all we're going to get from now on are stories tangential to the characters we love. And they can be good and enjoyable like the Mandalorian has been, but doing it this way was not just a nice send off to Mark Hamill, it was a send off to Luke as well, because it's clear they're not planning to use his character much moving forward.

    3 votes
  9. [4]
    Sand
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    How the hell did Bib Fortuna survive the exploding ship in Return of the Jedi?

    How the hell did Bib Fortuna survive the exploding ship in Return of the Jedi?

    2 votes
    1. [2]
      hamstergeddon
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      In "Tales from Jabba's Palace", which is non-canonical now, Bib escaped on a private skiff and booked it back to the palace to take control. Although in that book, Bib's comeuppance was a little...

      In "Tales from Jabba's Palace", which is non-canonical now, Bib escaped on a private skiff and booked it back to the palace to take control. Although in that book, Bib's comeuppance was a little more dark. He took back control only for the B'omarr monks (the spider droids with brain jars) to overtake him and make him a member of their order (which is to say they removed his brain and put it in a jar).

      3 votes
      1. BlindCarpenter
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        oh jesus that is dark but I like it

        oh jesus that is dark but I like it

        3 votes
    2. BlindCarpenter
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      was he on board? I don't remember. But I loved that scene where he was slowly morphing into Jabba. I lol'd

      was he on board? I don't remember. But I loved that scene where he was slowly morphing into Jabba. I lol'd

      1 vote