It's a nice end product, but it's not really turning a KFC dinner into something new though--it's just making a dish and using elements from from the KFC dinner, in addition to a lot more new...
It's a nice end product, but it's not really turning a KFC dinner into something new though--it's just making a dish and using elements from from the KFC dinner, in addition to a lot more new ingredients. I was expecting something like, taking the breading and skin, roasting it to dry it out, grinding it up into a makeshift flour for biscuits or something like that. Using the mashed potatoes and maybe some of that breading to make latkes, maybe.
ooh I'm intrigued by the idea of this -- it's probably more outside the chef's wheelhouse, but I'd be interested in seeing someone's take on this type of more extreme challenge.
ooh I'm intrigued by the idea of this -- it's probably more outside the chef's wheelhouse, but I'd be interested in seeing someone's take on this type of more extreme challenge.
I watched this last night, it was great! I do kinda wish they had a challenge that they couldn't add anything but pantry staples, I feel like that would be a more interesting challenge. When Kush...
I watched this last night, it was great! I do kinda wish they had a challenge that they couldn't add anything but pantry staples, I feel like that would be a more interesting challenge. When Kush said to use sausage I was like, they don't sell sausage at KFC right??
I like the Sorted guys and while they tend to do the more "clickbait" titles and thumbnails, they do good and fun videos and just seem to be decent friends. I'd sign up for their app, they have...
I like the Sorted guys and while they tend to do the more "clickbait" titles and thumbnails, they do good and fun videos and just seem to be decent friends. I'd sign up for their app, they have enough cred with me, but being in the US makes it less immediately useful.
Dunno why, but I feel a bit put off by all those people doing the latest outrageous thing purely for the purpose of creating a clickbaity video about them doing it.
Dunno why, but I feel a bit put off by all those people doing the latest outrageous thing purely for the purpose of creating a clickbaity video about them doing it.
As I understand it, clickbait doesn't have to be dishonest. It is only merely subcategory of sensational headlines which are fighting even more savagely for the viewers attention. The headline may...
As I understand it, clickbait doesn't have to be dishonest. It is only merely subcategory of sensational headlines which are fighting even more savagely for the viewers attention. The headline may be dishonest, true, but it may also be that the content is created with a clickbaity headline in mind. I just told ChatGPT to come up with 30 Youtube clipbait titles. A lot of them followed the same "doing something outrageous" template (see below). You may not think using KFC as a basis for another dish falls into this category—I mean, maybe it doesn't—but this is still what I immediately thought of.
"24 Hours Overnight in a Trampoline Park - Caught by Security!"
"Testing Viral TikTok Life Hacks - Do They Really Work?"
"I Let My Instagram Followers Control My Life for a Day!"
"Epic Watermelon vs. Giant Rubber Band - EXPLOSION!"
"Trying Exotic Foods from Around the World - I Almost Puked!"
"I Built a Giant Candy Tower Using 10,000 Pieces! 🍭"
"Surviving 72 Hours in the Wilderness with Only a Swiss Army Knife!"
"I Bought Everything Amazon Recommended for a Week - Worth it or Waste?"
"Recreating Famous Movie Scenes with my Dog - Adorable Chaos!"
"Eating the World's Spiciest Hot Wings - FIRE in My Mouth!"
"24 Hours in a DIY Fort - Ultimate Cozy Challenge!"
"I Spent $1,000 on Mystery Tech Gadgets - Total Tech Overload!"
"Teaching My Grandma to Use Snapchat - Hilarious Results!"
"Trying Celebrity Workout Routines for a Week - Fitness Transformation!"
"24 Hours Eating ONLY Fast Food - Gained 10 Pounds?!"
"I Lived Like a Minimalist for 7 Days - Surprising Lessons Learned!"
I don't really see much of an issue with the title if it's not dishonesty - the lying, the "bait" part, is what I would take issue with, and it doesn't really apply here. Additionally, I don't...
I don't really see much of an issue with the title if it's not dishonesty - the lying, the "bait" part, is what I would take issue with, and it doesn't really apply here. Additionally, I don't think the title of this video fits with those ChatGPT titles at all.
The format isn't even the same. Many of those have stronger bait elements - in particular, whatever is after the dash, like "EXPLOSION", "I Almost Puked", and so forth. The title of the video is merely
"Can a Chef turn KFC into a completely different dish?"
Like, if you consider this clickbait, or misleading, or offensive in some way then almost all headlines are the latter to you. It seems extremely innocuous to me.
Looks like you're mostly addressing my use of the word "clickbait". So what if I just skip that term?
Looks like you're mostly addressing my use of the word "clickbait". So what if I just skip that term?
Dunno why, but I feel a bit put off by all those people doing the latest outrageous thing purely for the purpose of creating a somewhat sensational video about them doing it.
That doesn’t really help. I don’t see how making dishes with KFC is outrageous, “the latest thing”, or sensationalist. I don’t see how it seems like they’re only making the video to be...
That doesn’t really help. I don’t see how making dishes with KFC is outrageous, “the latest thing”, or sensationalist. I don’t see how it seems like they’re only making the video to be sensationalist - it’s literally a channel about cooking, cooking food. Not just that, but a focus on home cooking.
This is yet another case where I can't fathom how anyone could see it any different from myself. To me, it is just so obvious. They literally does that making-cutesy-weird-faces on their youtube...
This is yet another case where I can't fathom how anyone could see it any different from myself. To me, it is just so obvious. They literally does that making-cutesy-weird-faces on their youtube title screens, and a lot of their videos follows the same doing-silly-things-for-its-own-sake formula.
We cooked using only BABY FOOD. But can a CHEF tell??
“IT’S SALTY?!” | British Chef Tries Indian Coca-Cola
Testing ANTIQUE Kitchen Gadgets
MOST DANGEROUS KITCHEN GADGETS Recipe Relay Challenge | Pass It On S3 E11
Make a dish using 3 RANDOM tins | Tin Can Roulette 2
What does Squirrel taste like?!
Chef Honestly Reviews TikTok Food Trends
POKER FACE 2.0 Extreme Flavour Food Challenge (Group Game)
Can a Chef turn a SUBWAY into a completely different dish?
UNPLANNED FRIES BATTLE
5 Kitchen Gadgets NOBODY Needs!!!
6 Fruit Hacks That'll BLOW YOUR MIND But You'll Never Use!
62 Inch Pizza Review
I agree they're less overt than the average clickbait. With the "But You'll Never Use!" they even kind of subvert the clickbaity. But even so, the formula is still the same; doing something strange for the sake of clicks. Mind, I don't think this is neccesarily a bad thing. If someone saw that Chef Honestly Reviews TikTok Food Trends and enjoyed it, good for them. I just don't see it as fundamentally different from the ChatGPT generated clickbait title Testing Viral TikTok Life Hacks - Do They Really Work?
I don't think they wanted to try eating squirrel, and then thought, "Hey, maybe we could do at video on our youtube channel?" Neither do I think any of their viewers go out asking for squirrel in their local supermarket. The entire purpose is that doing-a-silly-thing video.
You say that all headlines follow this patterns, but I don't see it that way. Most headlines are news stories, where the stories are what they are, and the headlines have to fit this to some degree. This it the exact opposite of creating a headline first, and then do semething peculiar which fit into that. The last youtube video I watched was Exploring the Tech and Design of Noita. The game Noita was not developed to create this video, so again, the headline came last. Likewise with the video Envy which were about the concept of envy. The video We made Vampire Survivors BUT in 10 Lines of Code was did follow the doing-something-silly formula, but that is one of the few exceptions when it comes to Godot instruction videos.
You're moving the goalposts quite a bit, though. We're talking about this specific video, Not their channel as a whole. For this video, I don't think it's clickbait, or sensationalist, or some...
You're moving the goalposts quite a bit, though. We're talking about this specific video,
"Can a Chef turn KFC into a completely different dish?"
Not their channel as a whole. For this video, I don't think it's clickbait, or sensationalist, or some attempt to get you with "shock value", or an appeal to the latest trends.
Cooking with KFC isn't weird or outrageous, I use to do it all the time in college when I would buy fried chicken from publix and cook a meal around it so I could avoid making a protein. No one is going to be shocked at the idea of cooking with fried chicken. That's just not a shocking thing. There is no trend that I'm aware of about recycling KFC.
It's a very normal and mundane video. If you click on it, it's because you want to see what the professional chef does to dress up parts from a KFC order. It's what you expect, and it's exactly what you get. It's not shocking to you, nor otherwise attention grabbing.
It seems like you're ranting more about current entertainment trends than addressing the content of this video itself, which is fine, I guess... but it might be considered somewhat off-topic for a...
It seems like you're ranting more about current entertainment trends than addressing the content of this video itself, which is fine, I guess... but it might be considered somewhat off-topic for a thread specifically discussing this video. Perhaps you could initiate a separate thread to delve into this topic more broadly and engage in a more meaningful discussion.
A gentle reminder that on Tildes you'd normally say why you think something sucks, rather than leaving an empty comment. Kush is someone who worked as a development chef for some very high end...
A gentle reminder that on Tildes you'd normally say why you think something sucks, rather than leaving an empty comment.
Kush is someone who worked as a development chef for some very high end restaurants (notably, Le Manoir aux Quat'Saisons). In this video we see him respect the concept of fast food, and then work creatively to make something completely new from it.
The video is obviously meant to be on the entertainment end of the teaching vs fun spectrum, but there's knowledge to be gained here.
He starts with mis en place and setting up his station. He tastes the food to see what he's working with. He talks about his thinking. He talks about adding texture. He mentions cleaning up as you go. There's a bunch of really good information hidden throughout the video.
What's clickbait ("deceptive, sensationalized, or otherwise misleading") about it? Kush literally treated a KFC meal as if it were ingredients by deconstructing the components, and then tried to...
What's clickbait ("deceptive, sensationalized, or otherwise misleading") about it? Kush literally treated a KFC meal as if it were ingredients by deconstructing the components, and then tried to turn them into a totally different dish... which is exactly what the title says it's going to be.
Regardless of how you feel about the video though, I'm not going to stop posting them because I really enjoy Sorted's videos, as do a bunch of other long-time users here. So again, if you don't want to see more of their videos, feel free to add sorted food to your topic tag filters. Same for you too, @Halfdan.
Hi there. Just wanna say I'm very much against the downvote feature in any shape and form. Whereas upvoting show that you get the post, that you share common ground, downvoting is telling that you...
Hi there. Just wanna say I'm very much against the downvote feature in any shape and form. Whereas upvoting show that you get the post, that you share common ground, downvoting is telling that you disagree, but without telling why, or even putting your own name on it. It's an anti-social social media feature, the digital equalent to a lynch mob.
For what it's worth I don't wish you to stop posting videos. They are not to my taste, sure, but I can just, y'know, not watch them. I only commented because that I had this peculiar distate for the format, and never really wondered much about why. So I wrote a one sentence reply which, yeah, would had been better suited at being an new post which didn't targeted a specific user. I mean, I didn't set out to target you specifically, but that's the overall effect. (I just added this to my growing list of How to avoid making other people angry on the internet) EDIT: Not that you sound angry, that just the headline I use
I already wrote a multi-post wall of text on why I consider the marketing side of Sorted Food to fall within the clickbait umbrella, pointing to various properties. If I was smart, I'd just let it go. Guess I'm not. So, I think arguing that clickbait must be deceptive a bit rigid approach to language. Definitions are descriptive, not prescriptive; while they help us understanding words by dumping them down to a short definition, they do not define them. Sure, there are properties which are intrinsic, like that a circle has exactly zero corners, but I feel that clickbait is a more in the fluffy or holistic territory, where you have to consider the whole cluster.
I'm not angry, but I definitely am extremely frustrated that the topic got derailed by complaints and arguments over it being clickbait. As for what clickbait is, if there is no element of...
I'm not angry, but I definitely am extremely frustrated that the topic got derailed by complaints and arguments over it being clickbait.
As for what clickbait is, if there is no element of deception/dishonesty required to make something clickbait then is everything meant to garner viewer attention/interest or entice an audience considered clickbait in your eyes? Is any content that is "doing-silly-things-for-its-own-sake" considered clickbait in your eyes? Is anything posed as a question which is then explored, rather than stating the outcome immediately considered clickbait in your eyes? Because if that's the case then nearly everything other than totally dry, serious content is clickbait, and it's a totally meaningless/pointless complaint since it becomes entirely subjective and down to personal taste at that point.
I agree that their use of bold in their titles is annoying, but that's precisely why I remove that element when I submit them here. But their titles are still descriptive, even when posed as rhetorical questions, and accurately convey what to expect in the videos.
This is a bit late late, but I actually do feel bad about that. I think we have different understanding of the term, your very specific, mine broader, and debates over different idea of term...
but I definitely am extremely frustrated that the topic got derailed by complaints and arguments over it being clickbait.
This is a bit late late, but I actually do feel bad about that.
is everything meant to garden viewer attention or entice an audience, regardless of its descriptive accuracy, considered clickbait in your eyes?
I think we have different understanding of the term, your very specific, mine broader, and debates over different idea of term seldom ends with any kind of mutual understanding.
But in my understanding, no, marketing as such (AKA meant to garden viewer attention) is not clickbait, clickbait is a more or less specific subcategory of marketing. Like, I think High Concept is a intrinsic property in all clickbait, but the Barbie movie, despite being high concept, is not clickbait.
Anyhow, the 'bait' metaphor does heavily build an image of deceit, so this kinda suggest you're at least on to something.
It's okay. Don't worry about it. It's not the end of the world. p.s. I don't think the debate about what is/isn't clickbait isn't worth having. It's an interesting topic. But I just wish it had...
This is a bit late late, but I actually do feel bad about that.
It's okay. Don't worry about it. It's not the end of the world.
p.s. I don't think the debate about what is/isn't clickbait isn't worth having. It's an interesting topic. But I just wish it had taken place in its own topic. ;)
Probably I'll just post better food videos instead. You can add sorted food to your topic tag filters if you don't like them. Also it is totally fine if you like a guy. He's probably made some...
Probably I'll just post better food videos instead. You can add sorted food to your topic tag filters if you don't like them.
Also it is totally fine if you like a guy. He's probably made some very good and valuable videos.
They can't all be hits though and this one was low quality. Youtubers often run out of material. They end up resorting to this kind of "remade fast food" drivel. Because clicks and views and money and such. That does not make it educational or useful.
It's a nice end product, but it's not really turning a KFC dinner into something new though--it's just making a dish and using elements from from the KFC dinner, in addition to a lot more new ingredients. I was expecting something like, taking the breading and skin, roasting it to dry it out, grinding it up into a makeshift flour for biscuits or something like that. Using the mashed potatoes and maybe some of that breading to make latkes, maybe.
ooh I'm intrigued by the idea of this -- it's probably more outside the chef's wheelhouse, but I'd be interested in seeing someone's take on this type of more extreme challenge.
I watched this last night, it was great! I do kinda wish they had a challenge that they couldn't add anything but pantry staples, I feel like that would be a more interesting challenge. When Kush said to use sausage I was like, they don't sell sausage at KFC right??
I like the Sorted guys and while they tend to do the more "clickbait" titles and thumbnails, they do good and fun videos and just seem to be decent friends. I'd sign up for their app, they have enough cred with me, but being in the US makes it less immediately useful.
Dunno why, but I feel a bit put off by all those people doing the latest outrageous thing purely for the purpose of creating a clickbaity video about them doing it.
Is cooking with KFC “outrageous”? What is the clickbait? The video ended up being exactly what I thought was going to be in the video.
As I understand it, clickbait doesn't have to be dishonest. It is only merely subcategory of sensational headlines which are fighting even more savagely for the viewers attention. The headline may be dishonest, true, but it may also be that the content is created with a clickbaity headline in mind. I just told ChatGPT to come up with 30 Youtube clipbait titles. A lot of them followed the same "doing something outrageous" template (see below). You may not think using KFC as a basis for another dish falls into this category—I mean, maybe it doesn't—but this is still what I immediately thought of.
I don't really see much of an issue with the title if it's not dishonesty - the lying, the "bait" part, is what I would take issue with, and it doesn't really apply here. Additionally, I don't think the title of this video fits with those ChatGPT titles at all.
The format isn't even the same. Many of those have stronger bait elements - in particular, whatever is after the dash, like "EXPLOSION", "I Almost Puked", and so forth. The title of the video is merely
Like, if you consider this clickbait, or misleading, or offensive in some way then almost all headlines are the latter to you. It seems extremely innocuous to me.
Looks like you're mostly addressing my use of the word "clickbait". So what if I just skip that term?
That doesn’t really help. I don’t see how making dishes with KFC is outrageous, “the latest thing”, or sensationalist. I don’t see how it seems like they’re only making the video to be sensationalist - it’s literally a channel about cooking, cooking food. Not just that, but a focus on home cooking.
This is yet another case where I can't fathom how anyone could see it any different from myself. To me, it is just so obvious. They literally does that making-cutesy-weird-faces on their youtube title screens, and a lot of their videos follows the same doing-silly-things-for-its-own-sake formula.
I agree they're less overt than the average clickbait. With the "But You'll Never Use!" they even kind of subvert the clickbaity. But even so, the formula is still the same; doing something strange for the sake of clicks. Mind, I don't think this is neccesarily a bad thing. If someone saw that Chef Honestly Reviews TikTok Food Trends and enjoyed it, good for them. I just don't see it as fundamentally different from the ChatGPT generated clickbait title Testing Viral TikTok Life Hacks - Do They Really Work?
I don't think they wanted to try eating squirrel, and then thought, "Hey, maybe we could do at video on our youtube channel?" Neither do I think any of their viewers go out asking for squirrel in their local supermarket. The entire purpose is that doing-a-silly-thing video.
You say that all headlines follow this patterns, but I don't see it that way. Most headlines are news stories, where the stories are what they are, and the headlines have to fit this to some degree. This it the exact opposite of creating a headline first, and then do semething peculiar which fit into that. The last youtube video I watched was Exploring the Tech and Design of Noita. The game Noita was not developed to create this video, so again, the headline came last. Likewise with the video Envy which were about the concept of envy. The video We made Vampire Survivors BUT in 10 Lines of Code was did follow the doing-something-silly formula, but that is one of the few exceptions when it comes to Godot instruction videos.
You're moving the goalposts quite a bit, though. We're talking about this specific video,
Not their channel as a whole. For this video, I don't think it's clickbait, or sensationalist, or some attempt to get you with "shock value", or an appeal to the latest trends.
Cooking with KFC isn't weird or outrageous, I use to do it all the time in college when I would buy fried chicken from publix and cook a meal around it so I could avoid making a protein. No one is going to be shocked at the idea of cooking with fried chicken. That's just not a shocking thing. There is no trend that I'm aware of about recycling KFC.
It's a very normal and mundane video. If you click on it, it's because you want to see what the professional chef does to dress up parts from a KFC order. It's what you expect, and it's exactly what you get. It's not shocking to you, nor otherwise attention grabbing.
It seems like you're ranting more about current entertainment trends than addressing the content of this video itself, which is fine, I guess... but it might be considered somewhat off-topic for a thread specifically discussing this video. Perhaps you could initiate a separate thread to delve into this topic more broadly and engage in a more meaningful discussion.
I suddenly wish we could downvote things on tildes
A gentle reminder that on Tildes you'd normally say why you think something sucks, rather than leaving an empty comment.
Kush is someone who worked as a development chef for some very high end restaurants (notably, Le Manoir aux Quat'Saisons). In this video we see him respect the concept of fast food, and then work creatively to make something completely new from it.
The video is obviously meant to be on the entertainment end of the teaching vs fun spectrum, but there's knowledge to be gained here.
He starts with mis en place and setting up his station. He tastes the food to see what he's working with. He talks about his thinking. He talks about adding texture. He mentions cleaning up as you go. There's a bunch of really good information hidden throughout the video.
Wow, thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. :/
p.s. Feel free to add
sorted foodto your topic tag filters if you don't want to see any more.Most posts here are not clickbait.
What's clickbait ("deceptive, sensationalized, or otherwise misleading") about it? Kush literally treated a KFC meal as if it were ingredients by deconstructing the components, and then tried to turn them into a totally different dish... which is exactly what the title says it's going to be.
Regardless of how you feel about the video though, I'm not going to stop posting them because I really enjoy Sorted's videos, as do a bunch of other long-time users here. So again, if you don't want to see more of their videos, feel free to add
sorted foodto your topic tag filters. Same for you too, @Halfdan.Hi there. Just wanna say I'm very much against the downvote feature in any shape and form. Whereas upvoting show that you get the post, that you share common ground, downvoting is telling that you disagree, but without telling why, or even putting your own name on it. It's an anti-social social media feature, the digital equalent to a lynch mob.
For what it's worth I don't wish you to stop posting videos. They are not to my taste, sure, but I can just, y'know, not watch them. I only commented because that I had this peculiar distate for the format, and never really wondered much about why. So I wrote a one sentence reply which, yeah, would had been better suited at being an new post which didn't targeted a specific user. I mean, I didn't set out to target you specifically, but that's the overall effect. (I just added this to my growing list of How to avoid making other people angry on the internet) EDIT: Not that you sound angry, that just the headline I use
I already wrote a multi-post wall of text on why I consider the marketing side of Sorted Food to fall within the clickbait umbrella, pointing to various properties. If I was smart, I'd just let it go. Guess I'm not. So, I think arguing that clickbait must be deceptive a bit rigid approach to language. Definitions are descriptive, not prescriptive; while they help us understanding words by dumping them down to a short definition, they do not define them. Sure, there are properties which are intrinsic, like that a circle has exactly zero corners, but I feel that clickbait is a more in the fluffy or holistic territory, where you have to consider the whole cluster.
I'm not angry, but I definitely am extremely frustrated that the topic got derailed by complaints and arguments over it being clickbait.
As for what clickbait is, if there is no element of deception/dishonesty required to make something clickbait then is everything meant to garner viewer attention/interest or entice an audience considered clickbait in your eyes? Is any content that is "doing-silly-things-for-its-own-sake" considered clickbait in your eyes? Is anything posed as a question which is then explored, rather than stating the outcome immediately considered clickbait in your eyes? Because if that's the case then nearly everything other than totally dry, serious content is clickbait, and it's a totally meaningless/pointless complaint since it becomes entirely subjective and down to personal taste at that point.
I agree that their use of bold in their titles is annoying, but that's precisely why I remove that element when I submit them here. But their titles are still descriptive, even when posed as rhetorical questions, and accurately convey what to expect in the videos.
This is a bit late late, but I actually do feel bad about that.
I think we have different understanding of the term, your very specific, mine broader, and debates over different idea of term seldom ends with any kind of mutual understanding.
But in my understanding, no, marketing as such (AKA meant to garden viewer attention) is not clickbait, clickbait is a more or less specific subcategory of marketing. Like, I think High Concept is a intrinsic property in all clickbait, but the Barbie movie, despite being high concept, is not clickbait.
Anyhow, the 'bait' metaphor does heavily build an image of deceit, so this kinda suggest you're at least on to something.
It's okay. Don't worry about it. It's not the end of the world.
p.s. I don't think the debate about what is/isn't clickbait isn't worth having. It's an interesting topic. But I just wish it had taken place in its own topic. ;)
Probably I'll just post better food videos instead. You can add sorted food to your topic tag filters if you don't like them.
Also it is totally fine if you like a guy. He's probably made some very good and valuable videos.
They can't all be hits though and this one was low quality. Youtubers often run out of material. They end up resorting to this kind of "remade fast food" drivel. Because clicks and views and money and such. That does not make it educational or useful.