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Weight loss drugs appear to be having an effect at the population level

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  1. [11]
    moocow1452
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    Given that not everyone who could use those drugs can afford them, I wonder if there’s more of a social effect to redouble effort to lose weight, as everyone knows someone who is losing weight and...

    Given that not everyone who could use those drugs can afford them, I wonder if there’s more of a social effect to redouble effort to lose weight, as everyone knows someone who is losing weight and they are hearing success stories that they considering giving some form of diet and exercise another go. Obviously this isn’t one size fits all, but enough people across the aggregate could make changes that could cause a trend, even if not everyone has access to the drugs?

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      Blakdragon
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      My perspective is Canadian, but I wonder if weight loss at a societal level is happening because people just can't afford the same food anymore? I doubt everyones "trying" to lose weight more....

      My perspective is Canadian, but I wonder if weight loss at a societal level is happening because people just can't afford the same food anymore? I doubt everyones "trying" to lose weight more. Everyone has always "tried" to be the ideal, but I think it's fairly obvious that doesn't work well for weight loss. But if you just plain can't afford takeout anymore, and groceries are getting more and more expensive, you end up eating less.

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      1. stu2b50
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        I doubt all that many people are actually going hungry, but eating out becoming more expensive could certainly be a cause. Especially fast food like McD.

        I doubt all that many people are actually going hungry, but eating out becoming more expensive could certainly be a cause. Especially fast food like McD.

        18 votes
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        Minori
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        I'm aware Canadian housing is tough, but Canadians are still spending roughly the same amount on food, adjusted for inflation. There is no evidence that people are eating less because they can't...

        I'm aware Canadian housing is tough, but Canadians are still spending roughly the same amount on food, adjusted for inflation. There is no evidence that people are eating less because they can't afford food. The only thing I can find evidence of is some Canadian shoppers are cutting back on expensive options like buying beef or eating out.

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        1. chocobean
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          2 thoughts: Stat can data goes to 2021. A lot has happened since the end of the pandemic, food prices being one, and How much Canadians spend also covers the rich as well as the poor. The elderly...

          There is no evidence that people are eating less because they can't afford food.

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          Stat can data goes to 2021. A lot has happened since the end of the pandemic, food prices being one, and

          In March 2023, there were almost 2 million visits to food banks across Canada, representing a 32 per cent increase compared to March 2022, and a 78.5 per cent increase compared to March 2019, which is the highest year-over-year increase in usage ever reported. (Food Banks Canada)

          How much Canadians spend also covers the rich as well as the poor.

          The elderly in my immediate community have definitely cut back on food, going from liquid milk to powder for example, and doing can veg instead of fresh. They might be spending the same amt but are they getting the same amt?

          At our food bank we have seen a substantial rise in number of clients since 2021.

          5 votes
      3. [2]
        teaearlgraycold
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        Usually cheaper foods are less healthy. So I don’t expect economically constrained people to get healthier or smaller.

        Usually cheaper foods are less healthy. So I don’t expect economically constrained people to get healthier or smaller.

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        1. vord
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          There is a distinct overlap between obesity and poverty in the USA, that's for sure.

          There is a distinct overlap between obesity and poverty in the USA, that's for sure.

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      4. updawg
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        Totally just a guess, but I wouldn't think so. Our countries care most about convenience. When food gets too expensive...we just keep buying the same food while blindly hoping we spend less elsewhere.

        I wonder if weight loss at a societal level is happening because people just can't afford the same food anymore?

        Totally just a guess, but I wouldn't think so. Our countries are lazy care most about convenience. When food gets too expensive...we just keep buying the same food while blindly hoping we spend less elsewhere.

        7 votes
    2. [2]
      OBLIVIATER
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      Exercise definitely got a big uptrend during covid, at least in my sphere. "Self improvement" in general has been growing in popularity with the rise of Tik Tok and social media making comparing...

      Exercise definitely got a big uptrend during covid, at least in my sphere. "Self improvement" in general has been growing in popularity with the rise of Tik Tok and social media making comparing yourself to others the norm.

      These are all idle speculations but I imagine there have been a lot of developments since COVID that have had an effect on obesity rates. Fast food and food delivery has gotten far more expensive, resulting in some people cutting back or quitting altogether. The fact that overweight people had a much higher mortality rate from COVID might have had both an impact on the stats itself, and the perception of the risks obesity poses to your body. All of these combined with the rise of Ozempic and its ilk are likely having an effect on society, I'll be interested to see if the downtrend continues, or if its just a statistical anomaly.

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      1. cloud_loud
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        Also something that blew up in 2023 on TikTok was the idea of “looksmaxxxing.” Which was a concept that was known on incel threads but only gained popularity after a few influencers blew up on...

        "Self improvement" in general has been growing in popularity with the rise of Tik Tok and social media making comparing yourself to others the norm.

        Also something that blew up in 2023 on TikTok was the idea of “looksmaxxxing.” Which was a concept that was known on incel threads but only gained popularity after a few influencers blew up on TikTok.

        The concept is about looking as good as you can, and the biggest idea to make yourself look better is losing fat and bloating.

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    3. Lyrl
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      6% of Americans are currently on the drugs. The obesity rate dropped by 2%. That kind of drop is easily explained by the number of people on the drugs alone.

      6% of Americans are currently on the drugs. The obesity rate dropped by 2%. That kind of drop is easily explained by the number of people on the drugs alone.

      4 votes
  2. skybrian
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    From the article - archive link:

    From the article - archive link:

    Around the world, obesity rates have been stubbornly climbing for decades, if anything accelerating in recent years. But now newly released data finds that the US adult obesity rate fell by around two percentage points between 2020 and 2023.

    We have known for several years from clinical trials that Ozempic, Wegovy and the new generation of diabetes and weight loss drugs produce large and sustained reductions in body weight. Now with mass public usage taking off — one in eight US adults have used the drugs, with 6 per cent current users — the results may be showing up at the population level.

    While we can’t be certain that the new generation of drugs are behind this reversal, it is highly likely. For one, the decline is steepest among college graduates, the group most likely to be using them.

    Crucially, the US National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, which reported the unprecedented decline in obesity levels, uses weight and height measurements taken by medical examiners, not self-reported values. This makes it far more reliable than other surveys. American waistlines really do seem to be shrinking.

    12 votes