every Republican candidate is doing their best to appear "moderate" on the issue of abortion. it's all a smoke screen. every single one of them would appoint Supreme Court and lower court judges...
every Republican candidate is doing their best to appear "moderate" on the issue of abortion.
it's all a smoke screen. every single one of them would appoint Supreme Court and lower court judges who have been vetted by the Federalist Society to be forced-birth hardliners.
In an interview with Kristen Welker during her Sunday debut as the new Meet the Press moderator on NBC, Trump refused to say whether he’d sign a 15-week federal abortion ban if it came across his desk as president. “I would sit down with both sides, and I’d negotiate something, and we'll end up with peace on that issue for the first time in 52 years. I’m not going to say I would or I wouldn’t,” Trump said.
this is just Trump's standard narcissistic "I alone can fix it" bullshit. disappointing, but not surprising, that the media is still falling for it.
Of course I doubt he had any particular opinion on abortion, he’s just trying out opinions to see how they play. He’ll walk back his latest remark too if it polls poorly (and by that I mean he sees criticism on Twitter or whatever cable news channel he is watching these days). In any case, Trump is excellent at being able to take multiple contradictory opinions and have many of his fans only listen to what they want to hear.
It's really remarkable that any news agency gives him air time anymore given how nothing he says carries any weight beyond what's immediately profitable for him. But I suppose 'news' today is more...
It's really remarkable that any news agency gives him air time anymore given how nothing he says carries any weight beyond what's immediately profitable for him. But I suppose 'news' today is more driven by clicks than distributing factual information.
It's because half the country despises him, and the other half despise any media outlet that doesn't fellate him. Hatred drives engagement, as Orwell would probably say were he alive today.
It's because half the country despises him, and the other half despise any media outlet that doesn't fellate him. Hatred drives engagement, as Orwell would probably say were he alive today.
Pretty sure Trump had tried to get one but Tiffany exists in spite of it. The issue always ends up whether poorer people can get one or if they're doomed to be impoverished and unfortunately...
Pretty sure Trump had tried to get one but Tiffany exists in spite of it.
The issue always ends up whether poorer people can get one or if they're doomed to be impoverished and unfortunately account for higher crime rates.
Very interested in how anti-abortion single issue voters will respond to this. Trump kind of got lucky/unlucky that the Supreme Court overturned rvw for him and he could receive credit without...
Very interested in how anti-abortion single issue voters will respond to this. Trump kind of got lucky/unlucky that the Supreme Court overturned rvw for him and he could receive credit without claiming it.
It's strange to think out of the GOP "candidates", Trump would be a moderate, with DeSantis, Vivek, etc. further to the right, and Nikki Hailey to the left. Well, not that surprising, I suppose,...
It's strange to think out of the GOP "candidates", Trump would be a moderate, with DeSantis, Vivek, etc. further to the right, and Nikki Hailey to the left.
Well, not that surprising, I suppose, it makes sense that the would-be's would try to out-Trump Trump to have a chance at winning.
I don't think he's necessarily lying in this case but he clearly just says whatever (he thinks) benefits him the most at that time. There's really no reason to trust him to do anything but help...
I don't think he's necessarily lying in this case but he clearly just says whatever (he thinks) benefits him the most at that time. There's really no reason to trust him to do anything but help himself.
Is it lying if he has no position and was basically saying he has no position? Ya, I know he's full of shit.
Is it lying if he has no position and was basically saying he has no position?
“I would sit down with both sides, and I’d negotiate something, and we'll end up with peace on that issue for the first time in 52 years. I’m not going to say I would or I wouldn’t,”
The 15 Week Federal Abortion ban is a very dangerous thing. There are still swing voters in 2023. Also a lot of naive people. Fifteen weeks to abort a pregnancy will sound very reasonable to many...
The 15 Week Federal Abortion ban is a very dangerous thing.
There are still swing voters in 2023. Also a lot of naive people.
Fifteen weeks to abort a pregnancy will sound very reasonable to many American voters, and refusing to accept that "compromise" will make those who refuse it appear to be unreasonable, extreme.
Of course such a ban once implemented, will be chipped away at.
One issue (I’m not disputing the merits of the above points, just want to focus on this one) is that a 15 week ban is just that, a ban on post-15 week abortions. It does not preempt states from...
One issue (I’m not disputing the merits of the above points, just want to focus on this one) is that a 15 week ban is just that, a ban on post-15 week abortions. It does not preempt states from enacting stricter measures. So it would inevitably mean suddenly abortion is limited to 15 weeks in California, NY, etc; while Texas can maintain its six week ban or enact a complete ban.
Donald Trump called Florida Governor Ron DeSantis’s six-week abortion ban “a terrible thing and a terrible mistake,” underscoring the kind of contrast he hopes to draw with his chief primary rival on an issue that has proven to be an electoral liability for the GOP.
In an interview with Kristen Welker during her Sunday debut as the new Meet the Press moderator on NBC, Trump refused to say whether he’d sign a 15-week federal abortion ban if it came across his desk as president. “I would sit down with both sides, and I’d negotiate something, and we'll end up with peace on that issue for the first time in 52 years. I’m not going to say I would or I wouldn’t,” Trump said. “I mean, ‘DeSanctus’ is willing to sign a five-week and six-week ban.”
At the Family Research Council summit, Trump reiterated his belief that a hardline anti-abortion stance hurts Republicans electorally, and said he supports bans with exceptions for rape, incest, and in cases where the life of the mother is at risk. “They lost a lot of elections, and we can't let that happen," he said. “Many politicians who are pro-life do not know how to properly discuss the topic.”
Evangelical voters still prefer the former president, although Ron DeSantis and Mike Pence have more ardent anti-abortion views.
Trump doesn't legitimately care about most social issues. He's a populist first and foremost; he says whatever plays well with the crowd. That said, he was a New York Democrat for a long time, and...
Trump doesn't legitimately care about most social issues. He's a populist first and foremost; he says whatever plays well with the crowd. That said, he was a New York Democrat for a long time, and he's definitely not religious in any real way.
Yeah I agree that he started out that way but who knows what he even believes now, he might not even know. If you live a lie long enough, the lie can become the truth (in your own mind anyhow),...
Yeah I agree that he started out that way but who knows what he even believes now, he might not even know. If you live a lie long enough, the lie can become the truth (in your own mind anyhow), especially someone at his age.
That would only fuel MAGA even more. They've been crying for years on nightly tv interviews on every major channel, daily radio interviews, on multiple social media platforms, at multiple rallies,...
That would only fuel MAGA even more.
They've been crying for years on nightly tv interviews on every major channel, daily radio interviews, on multiple social media platforms, at multiple rallies, events and on their own propaganda channels (OAN, FOX, etc) about how they're all censored and "cancelled".
They howl, scream, rage and vow revenge when even one of those sources enforced the "don't be a shithead" part of the TOS.
Actually denying them a platform would mobilize them even more. Going from a perceived slight (that is obviously BS) to actual deplatforming would literally end in shoot outs.
Instead, I'd like to see hardcore fact checks complete with videos of MAGA politicians contradicting themselves. Put their feet to the fires during these interviews. "Today you are saying this but on this video right here and this one here you said that. How do you explain your change of views?" Let them start boycotting news sources on their own and be sure to point that out too. "We have an open invitation for Politician Shithead to come on this show any time they want, however, they are refusing to reply."
(I might as well wish for $100 gazillion since neither will ever happen..)
Would you expect the shootouts resulting from a successful deplatforming to be at the various media companies (in which case their continued platforming is smart self-preservation to avoid...
Would you expect the shootouts resulting from a successful deplatforming to be at the various media companies (in which case their continued platforming is smart self-preservation to avoid blowback) or everywhere but media HQs (where they keep platforming the MAGA crowd to cowardly pay off the hostage takers instead of telling them to put up or shut up)?
every Republican candidate is doing their best to appear "moderate" on the issue of abortion.
it's all a smoke screen. every single one of them would appoint Supreme Court and lower court judges who have been vetted by the Federalist Society to be forced-birth hardliners.
I would recommend reading No, Nikki Haley isn't reasonable on abortion from the excellent Abortion, Every Day substack.
this is just Trump's standard narcissistic "I alone can fix it" bullshit. disappointing, but not surprising, that the media is still falling for it.
Very well. Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!
The same guy who used to say that there should be a complete ban on abortions, and women should be criminally punished for having them.
https://www.vox.com/2016/3/30/11333472/trump-abortions-punishment-women
Of course I doubt he had any particular opinion on abortion, he’s just trying out opinions to see how they play. He’ll walk back his latest remark too if it polls poorly (and by that I mean he sees criticism on Twitter or whatever cable news channel he is watching these days). In any case, Trump is excellent at being able to take multiple contradictory opinions and have many of his fans only listen to what they want to hear.
It's really remarkable that any news agency gives him air time anymore given how nothing he says carries any weight beyond what's immediately profitable for him. But I suppose 'news' today is more driven by clicks than distributing factual information.
It's because half the country despises him, and the other half despise any media outlet that doesn't fellate him. Hatred drives engagement, as Orwell would probably say were he alive today.
Pretty sure Trump had tried to get one but Tiffany exists in spite of it.
The issue always ends up whether poorer people can get one or if they're doomed to be impoverished and unfortunately account for higher crime rates.
Very interested in how anti-abortion single issue voters will respond to this. Trump kind of got lucky/unlucky that the Supreme Court overturned rvw for him and he could receive credit without claiming it.
His supporters booed him when he said pro-vaccine stuff at a rally, IIRC.
They're loyal up until he disagrees with one of their foundational biases.
It's strange to think out of the GOP "candidates", Trump would be a moderate, with DeSantis, Vivek, etc. further to the right, and Nikki Hailey to the left.
Well, not that surprising, I suppose, it makes sense that the would-be's would try to out-Trump Trump to have a chance at winning.
He's lying to get votes.
I don't think he's necessarily lying in this case but he clearly just says whatever (he thinks) benefits him the most at that time. There's really no reason to trust him to do anything but help himself.
Is it lying if he has no position and was basically saying he has no position?
Ya, I know he's full of shit.
The Overton Window sometimes lurches rather than shifts!
The 15 Week Federal Abortion ban is a very dangerous thing.
There are still swing voters in 2023. Also a lot of naive people.
Fifteen weeks to abort a pregnancy will sound very reasonable to many American voters, and refusing to accept that "compromise" will make those who refuse it appear to be unreasonable, extreme.
Of course such a ban once implemented, will be chipped away at.
Is the bigger issue that 15 weeks is too short or that the law being federal makes it too easy to adjust?
One issue (I’m not disputing the merits of the above points, just want to focus on this one) is that a 15 week ban is just that, a ban on post-15 week abortions. It does not preempt states from enacting stricter measures. So it would inevitably mean suddenly abortion is limited to 15 weeks in California, NY, etc; while Texas can maintain its six week ban or enact a complete ban.
Jack McCordick
Apart from the fact it’s a total non-answer, do you think he really believes this himself?
Trump doesn't legitimately care about most social issues. He's a populist first and foremost; he says whatever plays well with the crowd. That said, he was a New York Democrat for a long time, and he's definitely not religious in any real way.
Yeah I agree that he started out that way but who knows what he even believes now, he might not even know. If you live a lie long enough, the lie can become the truth (in your own mind anyhow), especially someone at his age.
I wish the media wouldn't cover Trump in any context beyond a criminal one.
That would only fuel MAGA even more.
They've been crying for years on nightly tv interviews on every major channel, daily radio interviews, on multiple social media platforms, at multiple rallies, events and on their own propaganda channels (OAN, FOX, etc) about how they're all censored and "cancelled".
They howl, scream, rage and vow revenge when even one of those sources enforced the "don't be a shithead" part of the TOS.
Actually denying them a platform would mobilize them even more. Going from a perceived slight (that is obviously BS) to actual deplatforming would literally end in shoot outs.
Instead, I'd like to see hardcore fact checks complete with videos of MAGA politicians contradicting themselves. Put their feet to the fires during these interviews. "Today you are saying this but on this video right here and this one here you said that. How do you explain your change of views?" Let them start boycotting news sources on their own and be sure to point that out too. "We have an open invitation for Politician Shithead to come on this show any time they want, however, they are refusing to reply."
(I might as well wish for $100 gazillion since neither will ever happen..)
Would you expect the shootouts resulting from a successful deplatforming to be at the various media companies (in which case their continued platforming is smart self-preservation to avoid blowback) or everywhere but media HQs (where they keep platforming the MAGA crowd to cowardly pay off the hostage takers instead of telling them to put up or shut up)?