This is also the second biggest opening weekend for an animated film not adjusted for inflation. After the weak performance of all the May films, June has given theaters some relief. Bad Boys Ride...
This is also the second biggest opening weekend for an animated film not adjusted for inflation.
After the weak performance of all the May films, June has given theaters some relief. Bad Boys Ride or Die opened up last weekend to good numbers and is holding on as well.
Theres a tendency for box office forums to go through a cycle of “it’s over” to “we’re so back.” But I don’t think movie theaters can survive only on these huge movies every once in a while. And I don’t think studios are fine with most of the movies bombing either.
Something that surprised me was how female skewing the audience for this was. I didn’t realize the first Inside Out was so big among women, but I guess it makes sense. I’m hoping that this doesn’t effect Beetlejuice, which I also expect to be female skewing, as women go to the theater much less than men.
It's almost like, when my local theater has 6 movies rated PG13 or R, and only 1 or 2 G or PG movies, that getting another kids movie opens up the path to bring the family to the theater again....
It's almost like, when my local theater has 6 movies rated PG13 or R, and only 1 or 2 G or PG movies, that getting another kids movie opens up the path to bring the family to the theater again.
I hadn't thought of that. I believe it was the original Deadpool that had everyone saying that studios finally realized they could make a rated R blockbuster. Maybe we're honestly just swinging...
I hadn't thought of that. I believe it was the original Deadpool that had everyone saying that studios finally realized they could make a rated R blockbuster. Maybe we're honestly just swinging back the other way now?
I think the issue, at least for me, was that Hollywood kept churning out the PG-13 films that were not ok to bring the kids to and not good enough to justify getting a babysitter for me to go to....
I think the issue, at least for me, was that Hollywood kept churning out the PG-13 films that were not ok to bring the kids to and not good enough to justify getting a babysitter for me to go to. Sometimes a compromise is worse than either extreme.
That said, I'm sure lots of people enjoyed those PG-13 films, so this is just my opinion. But I'm not taking kids to anything adult ish, and I'm not getting a babysitter for a film that's been watered down to hit a PG-13 when the setting would realistically call for an R.
I feel like the PG-13 rating itself has been watered down a lot, to the point where I see few if any modern PG-13 movies that would have actually gotten an R back before the rating was introduced....
I feel like the PG-13 rating itself has been watered down a lot, to the point where I see few if any modern PG-13 movies that would have actually gotten an R back before the rating was introduced. PG-13 used to allow a limited amount of nudity and graphic violence. Even rules on swearing were more loose. All the President's Men pre-dated the PG-13 rating, and was given a PG rating with no less than 8 F-bombs in it. I think it's been close to 15 years since I last saw a PG-13 movie with some nudity or more than 1 F-bomb.
Technically it's about context - All the President's Men got a pass after they appealed it because it was a historical drama and the rule is about "sexually-derived words". But that was before...
I think it's been close to 15 years since I last saw a PG-13 movie with some nudity or more than 1 F-bomb.
Now people just write around the one (1) word - and they usually use it on a targeted fuck - so they don't argue with the board about a rating. Which loops back around to the rest of the conversation, that a lot of movies get written out of the gate as a PG-13 and it can come across as too safe like you're saying.
That sounds accurate. This year I have seen Civil War alone and The Garfield Movie with my eldest daughter. I guess it could make sense to take teenagers to see PG13 movies, but it appears to me...
That sounds accurate. This year I have seen Civil War alone and The Garfield Movie with my eldest daughter. I guess it could make sense to take teenagers to see PG13 movies, but it appears to me that this current generation of teenagers aren't prioritizing moviegoing as much, so there might be an upcoming shift in what types of movies are being produced.
Here are my thoughts on it. It currently has a 74 on Metacritic compare that to Finding Dory's 77 and The Incredibles 2's 80. Audience scores have been fantastic on the other hand.
I totally agree with your analysis, but I wanted to add one more thing that made the movie extremely unpleasant for me: In Inside Out 2, the main character frequently gets herself into situations...
I totally agree with your analysis, but I wanted to add one more thing that made the movie extremely unpleasant for me:
In Inside Out 2, the main character frequently gets herself into situations where she makes choices driven by personified Anxiety, which are obviously meant to be perceived as "bad" by the audience. Normal teenage drama like betraying her friends, ingratiating herself with others, betraying the trust of a mentor.
But the way this is portrait in the movie just makes me physically cringe. It's so on the nose, so obviously meant to backfire and teach her something (what is also patently obvious). Maybe I'm sensitive to that, but I found it physically uncomfortable to watch.
I remember one of the criticisms of the first Inside Out is that Riley doesn’t feel like a real person because she’s being operated like a machine. I think that’s a bigger problem here, because...
I remember one of the criticisms of the first Inside Out is that Riley doesn’t feel like a real person because she’s being operated like a machine. I think that’s a bigger problem here, because she will literally fight back the actions Anxiety wants her to do, but then Anxiety will override her. Just kind of odd.
Think this just goes to show that the "panic" over Furiosa and Fall Guy was manufactured nonsense. Good movies will still do well, niche/mediocre movies will still only do ok. I finally saw fall...
Think this just goes to show that the "panic" over Furiosa and Fall Guy was manufactured nonsense. Good movies will still do well, niche/mediocre movies will still only do ok.
I finally saw fall guy and yeah, i wouldn't have bothered to see that in theaters. The plot was dumb, but expected that going in. Still wasn't as well paced/funny/interesting as it should be. The stunts were cool, but funnily enough, I wasn't sure if they were actually "doing them right" or if it was green screen nonsense until the credits rolled due to how they edited them.
It was so weird seeing a "lets show off stunt performers" movie that edited as if they weren't really doing the stunts. Just about every jackie chan movie knows you don't want to keep cutting when the stunts are done (or you show it multiple times) but I serious was unsure just how greenscreed it all was until the end. So yeah, of course this movie didn't pull everyone in.
I thought that The Fall Guy was perfectly enjoyable, light hearted romp that would make a good summer action movie. That said, I watched it at home. Wasn't really motivated to go see it in a...
I thought that The Fall Guy was perfectly enjoyable, light hearted romp that would make a good summer action movie. That said, I watched it at home. Wasn't really motivated to go see it in a theater.
Furiosa I did catch in the theaters and I thought it was excellent and a worthy (if not flawless) follow-up to Fury Road. That said, I guess I can see why it didn't do too well. The first movie only did decent box-office. It likely picked up word of mouth on home video, but it was still a prequel to a movie that came out nine years previous. It also had some dodgy CGI, where the original was touted (somewhat inaccurately) as being the pinnacle of practical effects, which might have turned off some viewers.
This is also the second biggest opening weekend for an animated film not adjusted for inflation.
After the weak performance of all the May films, June has given theaters some relief. Bad Boys Ride or Die opened up last weekend to good numbers and is holding on as well.
Theres a tendency for box office forums to go through a cycle of “it’s over” to “we’re so back.” But I don’t think movie theaters can survive only on these huge movies every once in a while. And I don’t think studios are fine with most of the movies bombing either.
Something that surprised me was how female skewing the audience for this was. I didn’t realize the first Inside Out was so big among women, but I guess it makes sense. I’m hoping that this doesn’t effect Beetlejuice, which I also expect to be female skewing, as women go to the theater much less than men.
It's almost like, when my local theater has 6 movies rated PG13 or R, and only 1 or 2 G or PG movies, that getting another kids movie opens up the path to bring the family to the theater again.
I'll probably load up everyone next weekend.
I hadn't thought of that. I believe it was the original Deadpool that had everyone saying that studios finally realized they could make a rated R blockbuster. Maybe we're honestly just swinging back the other way now?
I think the issue, at least for me, was that Hollywood kept churning out the PG-13 films that were not ok to bring the kids to and not good enough to justify getting a babysitter for me to go to. Sometimes a compromise is worse than either extreme.
That said, I'm sure lots of people enjoyed those PG-13 films, so this is just my opinion. But I'm not taking kids to anything adult ish, and I'm not getting a babysitter for a film that's been watered down to hit a PG-13 when the setting would realistically call for an R.
I feel like the PG-13 rating itself has been watered down a lot, to the point where I see few if any modern PG-13 movies that would have actually gotten an R back before the rating was introduced. PG-13 used to allow a limited amount of nudity and graphic violence. Even rules on swearing were more loose. All the President's Men pre-dated the PG-13 rating, and was given a PG rating with no less than 8 F-bombs in it. I think it's been close to 15 years since I last saw a PG-13 movie with some nudity or more than 1 F-bomb.
Technically it's about context - All the President's Men got a pass after they appealed it because it was a historical drama and the rule is about "sexually-derived words". But that was before PG-13 existed; Lin-Manuel Miranda says they just edited two fucks out of Hamilton rather than fighting it.
Now people just write around the one (1) word - and they usually use it on a targeted fuck - so they don't argue with the board about a rating. Which loops back around to the rest of the conversation, that a lot of movies get written out of the gate as a PG-13 and it can come across as too safe like you're saying.
That sounds accurate. This year I have seen Civil War alone and The Garfield Movie with my eldest daughter. I guess it could make sense to take teenagers to see PG13 movies, but it appears to me that this current generation of teenagers aren't prioritizing moviegoing as much, so there might be an upcoming shift in what types of movies are being produced.
But is it any good? I'm a little more skeptical of Pixar sequels.
Here are my thoughts on it.
It currently has a 74 on Metacritic compare that to Finding Dory's 77 and The Incredibles 2's 80.
Audience scores have been fantastic on the other hand.
I totally agree with your analysis, but I wanted to add one more thing that made the movie extremely unpleasant for me:
In Inside Out 2, the main character frequently gets herself into situations where she makes choices driven by personified Anxiety, which are obviously meant to be perceived as "bad" by the audience. Normal teenage drama like betraying her friends, ingratiating herself with others, betraying the trust of a mentor.
But the way this is portrait in the movie just makes me physically cringe. It's so on the nose, so obviously meant to backfire and teach her something (what is also patently obvious). Maybe I'm sensitive to that, but I found it physically uncomfortable to watch.
Inside Out 1 was absolutely nothing like that.
I remember one of the criticisms of the first Inside Out is that Riley doesn’t feel like a real person because she’s being operated like a machine. I think that’s a bigger problem here, because she will literally fight back the actions Anxiety wants her to do, but then Anxiety will override her. Just kind of odd.
In my experience, that's kind of exactly how it feels like anxiety works.
Think this just goes to show that the "panic" over Furiosa and Fall Guy was manufactured nonsense. Good movies will still do well, niche/mediocre movies will still only do ok.
I finally saw fall guy and yeah, i wouldn't have bothered to see that in theaters. The plot was dumb, but expected that going in. Still wasn't as well paced/funny/interesting as it should be. The stunts were cool, but funnily enough, I wasn't sure if they were actually "doing them right" or if it was green screen nonsense until the credits rolled due to how they edited them.
It was so weird seeing a "lets show off stunt performers" movie that edited as if they weren't really doing the stunts. Just about every jackie chan movie knows you don't want to keep cutting when the stunts are done (or you show it multiple times) but I serious was unsure just how greenscreed it all was until the end. So yeah, of course this movie didn't pull everyone in.
I thought that The Fall Guy was perfectly enjoyable, light hearted romp that would make a good summer action movie. That said, I watched it at home. Wasn't really motivated to go see it in a theater.
Furiosa I did catch in the theaters and I thought it was excellent and a worthy (if not flawless) follow-up to Fury Road. That said, I guess I can see why it didn't do too well. The first movie only did decent box-office. It likely picked up word of mouth on home video, but it was still a prequel to a movie that came out nine years previous. It also had some dodgy CGI, where the original was touted (somewhat inaccurately) as being the pinnacle of practical effects, which might have turned off some viewers.