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5 votes
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Pinocchio | Teaser trailer
4 votes -
How the US market crash is forcing Hollywood giants to reassess digital strategies
9 votes -
Chip n’ Dale: Rescue Rangers | Official trailer
8 votes -
Disney, Sony and Warner Bros pause film releases in Russia over Ukraine invasion
9 votes -
What we do: Disney's filmmaking process
5 votes -
Lightyear | Official trailer
5 votes -
Spider-Man: No Way Home - Discussion thread
13 votes -
Why Mulan (2020) didn't work
8 votes -
‘Eternals’ pulled from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait in apparent ban
6 votes -
Lightyear | Teaser trailer
15 votes -
Thoughts on Mulan (2020)?
I just finished watching it (pirated, because I wasn’t going to give Disney money after all the controversy regarding Taiwan). Uhh, it.. was bad? I mean I’m usually pretty positive especially...
I just finished watching it (pirated, because I wasn’t going to give Disney money after all the controversy regarding Taiwan).
Uhh, it.. was bad? I mean I’m usually pretty positive especially about all the Disney remakes, and I liked the general darker mood of this Mulan version. But what’s with the 90s era cgi physics?
Also, and I get the Mulan plot line is entirely about how ridiculous gender-gating is in general, but whew there is a serious case of The Stupids around a lot of the tradition, much more so than in the original. This felt very tropey to me, convenient idiocy. I mean yes okay this takes place 1200 years ago but …
I appreciated not seeing mushu, but the Phoenix could have just been a lot lot lot more subtle.
And I’ve never seen snow look so much like party foam. This is the same studio that produced Frozen?!
Man, this movie felt like it was written, produced and directed in 1998. I would say I watched the wrong one by mistake but the original was actually good for its time.
What happened, did I miss something? This could have been an amazing movie full of great music, awesome choreography, and a super dark take on the original. Instead, I watched the equivalent of a machine learning exercise in turning anime to live action.
9 votes -
Bob Iger’s long goodbye
1 vote -
Disney and Scarlett Johansson resolve bitter ‘Black Widow’ profits lawsuit
7 votes -
How Aladdin changed animation (by screwing over Robin Williams)
7 votes -
Disney shifts ‘Black Widow’ & ‘Cruella’ to day and date release in theaters and Disney+
5 votes -
Black Widow review and discussion
7 votes -
Reevaluating The Little Mermaid before Disney horks up another live action remake
12 votes -
Marvel Studios celebrates the movies
10 votes -
Black Widow | New trailer
9 votes -
Disney investor day announcement thread
6 votes -
‘Deadpool 3’: Marvel Studios and Ryan Reynolds tap the Molyneux Sisters to pen the sequel
5 votes -
John Boyega on possible ‘Star Wars’ return and educating Disney execs on racist backlash
5 votes -
‘Mulan’ to skip theaters for $30 rental (September 4th on the Disney Plus platform)
22 votes -
Disney delays ‘Mulan’ release indefinitely, pushes back all upcoming ‘Avatar’ and ‘Star Wars’ movies by a year, and more
9 votes -
YMS: Kimba the White Lion
6 votes -
Soul | Official trailer
8 votes -
The Guardians of the Galaxy will appear in Thor: Love and Thunder
7 votes -
Sergei Eisinstein: Disney Fan
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Sam Raimi in talks to direct ‘Doctor Strange 2’
7 votes -
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Discussion thread
If you have seen it, what are your thoughts on it?
28 votes -
Black Widow | Official teaser
7 votes -
Disney Plus is now online in the United States, Canada, and the Netherlands
8 votes -
How Star Wars trailers weaponize nostalgia
6 votes -
Soul | Official teaser
6 votes -
The real fake cameras of Toy Story 4
8 votes -
Onward | Official trailer
4 votes -
Spider-Man will stay in the Marvel Cinematic Universe
12 votes -
In praise of Hook, a flawed classic
5 votes -
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker | D23 special look
11 votes -
Disney-Sony standoff ends Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige’s involvement in ‘Spider-Man’
9 votes -
‘The Lion King’ review: Disney’s remake is a disastrous plunge into the uncanny valley
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“How could you, Woody?” Or: my reaction to Toy Story 4
First up: that “spoiler” tag isn’t there for fun. This essay is going to focus on a climactic moment in ‘Toy Story 4’. If you haven’t seen it and don’t want to know what happens, close this topic...
First up: that “spoiler” tag isn’t there for fun. This essay is going to focus on a climactic moment in ‘Toy Story 4’. If you haven’t seen it and don’t want to know what happens, close this topic NOW.
I saw ‘Toy Story 4’ last night. I’ve been catching myself up on the previous movies over the past few weeks (I’d never seen any of them before), so they’re reasonably fresh in my mind. I surprised myself by enjoying the movies a bit more than I expected to. I had assumed they were very much children’s movies, but I found them engaging and enjoyable even as a middle-aged adult.
So I was all caught up, and went out last night to see the latest instalment in the franchise with a friend who’s a massive fan of all things Disney.
I liked it. It was yet another “toys having adventures in the big wide world” story line. That seems to be the main story line of all the Toy Story movies: the toys get lost or misplaced, or have to go rescue a toy who is lost or misplaced, so they end up having adventures outside of their home.
But there’s usually an emotional heart to each movie. And that emotional heart often comes from the character of Woody, whose goal has always been to make sure that the toys are doing what toys are supposed to do: bringing joy to children. As we often get told, mostly by Woody, being a child’s plaything is the most noble thing a toy can do. To that end, Woody seems willing to do almost anything. The toys have mounted ridiculous rescue missions, they’ve manipulated humans (it wasn’t Andy’s idea to give his toys to Bonnie), and they’ve made personal sacrifices. Even in this movie, Woody was willing to give up his voice box so that he could get brand-new toy Forky back to Bonnie who had made him, and to give Gabby the chance to belong to a kid.
Then…
Woody met Bo Peep in this movie, and found her living an independent life as a lost toy. We know they’ve had romantic feelings towards each other, but she was given away by Andy’s little sister some years back. Then she got given away again, to an antique store. Now she turns up living near a caravan park, and she’s noone’s toy except her own.
Normally, Woody would have moved heaven and earth to reunite Bo with her previous kid, or to find her a new one. But she doesn’t want one. She’s an independent toy now, and that suits her fine.
So they have their adventures. And, at the end of those adventures, Woody and his fellow toys are returning to Bonnie, while Bo is returning to her independent life. And Woody has a moment of indecision. Does he return to Bonnie, or does he go with Bo?
But, there’s not really that much tension because we know how this is going to end. Woody has told us so many times that being a child’s plaything is the most noble thing a toy can do. Of course he’s going back to Bonnie.
And then he chooses to go with Bo.
I sobbed.
Let me give some context for my reaction to this moment. I do respond emotionally to movies and television. I laugh loudly when something is funny, and I cry openly when something is sad. I jolt back in my seat in response to scary moments, and I’ve been known to cover my eyes during exceptionally gory scenes. I’m not ashamed to feel things in response to events on the screen, nor to express those feelings. That’s normal for me. However, I felt a very strong emotional reaction to this moment in the movie – much stronger than most. I wanted to burst out in loud unmanly sobs because of how upset I was. I wanted to shout at the screen. I felt a real and physical reaction in my gut: it was literally a gut-wrenching moment for me (and that almost never happens!). This was the strongest emotional reaction I’ve had to any moment in movies or television for years. It was strong enough to prompt me to write about it!
I know I was supposed to feel happy that Woody and Bo had found each other, and they loved each other, and this was the start of their romantic “happy ever after”. But that’s not why I cried. I cried because Woody turned his back on nobility and chose selfishness.
Woody had been the conscience and the heart of the whole franchise, reconciling toys to their place in life, and helping toys to achieve their goal in life. Even in this movie, he had turned Forky around from wanting to be trash to wanting to help Bonnie. Woody showed toys their noble goal in life, and did everything he could to help them achieve it.
And then he turned his back on everything he’d said and believed up till now.
Sure, Bonnie wasn’t playing with him as much as Andy did. Sure, he wasn’t top dog in Bonnie’s playroom (that place belonged to Dolly, who’d been there much longer than Woody and his fellows). But Woody was always selfless. Woody was always looking out for the children’s best interests. Woody was always putting the children’s needs ahead of his own. He had previously told his fellow toys that even being stored in the attic was a good thing because it meant their child (now a college man) still cared about them to some degree. So, even if Bonnie wasn’t playing with him all the time, he would still want to stay around to be there for her – or even to be there for the other toys she did play with.
Wouldn’t he?
Or was it all a lie? Was it all about his own selfish desire to be important and, then, when that importance was taken away, he decided to walk out?
Or was it as basic as choosing pleasure over service?
How could you do that, Woody? How could you turn your back on everything noble and good, and choose your own selfish desires instead?
Woody, you broke my heart.
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Mulan | Official teaser
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Love isn’t what it was: In a strangely unremarked-upon twist, Disney films have taken to subverting romance and rethinking the happy-ever-afters
6 votes -
The Toy Story trilogy gets the epilogue it deserves
16 votes -
Disney's new 'Aladdin,' starring Will Smith, is a mostly pale imitation of the original
10 votes -
How Aladdin changed animation (by screwing over Robin Williams)
13 votes -
Disney announces dates for new Star Wars movies, MCU Phase 4, and more
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Avengers Endgame discussion thread, potential spoilers
I'm not sure how spoilers work here on tildes. I'd say just be wary of entering this thread if you haven't seen the film yet.
26 votes