22 votes

Luigi Mangione wants death penalty count tossed in US CEO murder case

11 comments

  1. [8]
    tomf
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    i still don’t think he’s the dude in the footage.

    i still don’t think he’s the dude in the footage.

    5 votes
    1. [7]
      stu2b50
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      If he's not, he has the world's worst defense lawyers.

      If he's not, he has the world's worst defense lawyers.

      10 votes
      1. [5]
        tomf
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        I accept that this is conspiracy, etc etc etc --- but as soon as he was picked up I said that they'd try him and he'd get the death penalty and be swiftly executed. Not for real, though. I think...

        I accept that this is conspiracy, etc etc etc --- but as soon as he was picked up I said that they'd try him and he'd get the death penalty and be swiftly executed. Not for real, though.

        I think they just needed someone who looked enough like the guy in the footage to take the fall so copycats didn't start going after CEOs.

        Again, its all conspiracy thinking, but at the time it was all too tidy and I just don't buy it.

        6 votes
        1. [2]
          stu2b50
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          I don't think it really passes occam's razor. If there's anything the last year has shown, it's that the US government is quite incompetent. The level of coordination required between all parties...

          I don't think it really passes occam's razor. If there's anything the last year has shown, it's that the US government is quite incompetent.

          The level of coordination required between all parties to be able to do this conspiracy seems pretty beyond the level of "people who send US bombing plans to random phone numbers by accident".

          Not only that, but it would fall apart like a house of cards the moment any competent defense is given the smallest leeway in discovery.

          5 votes
          1. tomf
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            I mean, yeah -- but there are definitely small groups that can easily handle something like this, capitalizing on the incompetence of the larger government. It isnt like everybody needs to be...

            I mean, yeah -- but there are definitely small groups that can easily handle something like this, capitalizing on the incompetence of the larger government. It isnt like everybody needs to be involved.

            I need to read Fahrenheit 451 again. I dont remember anything about it.

            2 votes
        2. [2]
          AnxiousCucumber
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          This premise is reminiscent of the plot of Fahrenheit 451 wherein the protagonist escapes a manhunt, yet the authorities 'find' him and capture him for display to the public - but he's actually a...

          This premise is reminiscent of the plot of Fahrenheit 451 wherein the protagonist escapes a manhunt, yet the authorities 'find' him and capture him for display to the public - but he's actually a patsy, a fake to show the public that the authorities are competent and in control.

          4 votes
          1. tomf
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            maybe!! cc/ @stu2b50 --- come on board! choo choo! :) quick edit: I might not be remembering the story too well. I'll assume you're correct.

            exactly! maybe!!

            cc/ @stu2b50 --- come on board! choo choo! :)

            quick edit: I might not be remembering the story too well. I'll assume you're correct.

            1 vote
      2. Eji1700
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        Feel like if I was being framed for murder and shouting in front of the press my message would be something along the lines of "holy fuck I didn't do it help", not claiming something was an insult...

        Feel like if I was being framed for murder and shouting in front of the press my message would be something along the lines of "holy fuck I didn't do it help", not claiming something was an insult to the intelligence of the American people

        1 vote
  2. [3]
    AugustusFerdinand
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    In their filing, Mangione’s lawyers also urged U.S. District Judge Margaret Garnett to throw out evidence from a backpack seized during his arrest, arguing officers searched his bag without obtaining a warrant. Police questioned Mangione for more than 20 minutes before reading him his rights and blocked him from leaving the McDonald’s even though they initially told him he wasn’t under arrest, according to the filing.

    11 votes
    1. [2]
      OBLIVIATER
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      It was almost funny how obviously different this whole situation was treated by the money class. Rich guy gets gunned down in the street of NYC and they launched a multi-state manhunt for him with...

      It was almost funny how obviously different this whole situation was treated by the money class. Rich guy gets gunned down in the street of NYC and they launched a multi-state manhunt for him with APBs everywhere, governor stops at nothing to make sure they catch the guy who did it. Meanwhile poor folks get gunned down every single day in the very same city and I don't even think it makes the local news.

      22 votes
      1. skybrian
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        Why did the George Floyd case get so much more attention than other murder cases? Because of politics. Same here. Everybody was talking about this case because it was so political. If it were an...

        Why did the George Floyd case get so much more attention than other murder cases? Because of politics. Same here. Everybody was talking about this case because it was so political.

        If it were an ordinary murder case, it wouldn't have blown up on social media. There wouldn't be people rooting for the murderer, either.

        High profile political cases get more attention from the public and there's more pressure on the police to do something about them.

        3 votes