I would not use mastodon as a success story, but outside of that nitpicking (throwing in curl as a replacement) I think a lot of the reasoning holds true. It is good that we're not building tech...
I would not use mastodon as a success story, but outside of that nitpicking (throwing in curl as a replacement) I think a lot of the reasoning holds true. It is good that we're not building tech giants in that way. I think we are lagging behind in some important ways. E.g. for cloud hosting there are no alternatives inside eu that are even close to aws or gcp when it comes to features and maturity.
As a non-European (rather, a dirty American), I feel like this is a little bit of cope. Like yeah, that's great that Europe and Europeans contributed greatly to the foundations of the modern...
As a non-European (rather, a dirty American), I feel like this is a little bit of cope. Like yeah, that's great that Europe and Europeans contributed greatly to the foundations of the modern Internet. And contributions will continue to be made and will be made for a long time to come! A lot of cool tech comes out of Europe.
But like Bwerf says, where are the at-parity hyperscalers in Europe? Us Americans are weaponizing interdependence, even towards our allies and friends (maybe I need to add "former" as a qualifier, sigh), and Europe has no alternatives. OK, maybe there doesn't need to be an European alternative for TikTok or Douyin. I think there's an argument that NO ONE needs these in the first place...But how about AI? Seems like all the big players are American or Chinese. That said, I just learned about Mistral and its "Le Chat." Though I don't know how widespread its use is. Can anyone chime in?
I would not use mastodon as a success story, but outside of that nitpicking (throwing in curl as a replacement) I think a lot of the reasoning holds true. It is good that we're not building tech giants in that way. I think we are lagging behind in some important ways. E.g. for cloud hosting there are no alternatives inside eu that are even close to aws or gcp when it comes to features and maturity.
As a non-European (rather, a dirty American), I feel like this is a little bit of cope. Like yeah, that's great that Europe and Europeans contributed greatly to the foundations of the modern Internet. And contributions will continue to be made and will be made for a long time to come! A lot of cool tech comes out of Europe.
But like Bwerf says, where are the at-parity hyperscalers in Europe? Us Americans are weaponizing interdependence, even towards our allies and friends (maybe I need to add "former" as a qualifier, sigh), and Europe has no alternatives. OK, maybe there doesn't need to be an European alternative for TikTok or Douyin. I think there's an argument that NO ONE needs these in the first place...But how about AI? Seems like all the big players are American or Chinese. That said, I just learned about Mistral and its "Le Chat." Though I don't know how widespread its use is. Can anyone chime in?